| IVOD_ID |
159230 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159230 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-17T10:58:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-17T11:10:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/597499b2503050fbd8476443e6093f00a4d8ee7d728f0553eba1aea0cf818e9176aa520af6b9da4e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:58:09 - 11:10:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家科學及技術委員會主任委員吳誠文列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
(3月17日及20日二天一次會)） |
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謝謝主席 有請吳主委請吳主委備質詢 謝謝吳委員好 |
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主委好我在2021年也就是三年多前曾經質詢過當時的科技部國發會的前身那我那時候呢其實是有鑒於我們國科會或者是過去的科技部他是負責我們知識的管理學門的分類所以當時呢我有特別要求說 |
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做一個原住民研究學門的評估那當時呢我很感謝因為有提到這個學門要增設原住民族研究作為次領域那我當時非常高興而且呢也有經過110年度複審會議討論的決議說要把法律學經濟學以及社會學三個學門呢要增設 |
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原住民族研究的次領域我當時非常的高興我也有發臉書不過我不知道主委您知不知道時至今日我們原住民族研究有沒有真正被放入次領域報告委員這一點我還不是很清楚 |
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跟委員報告就是說依照目前我們在人文處裡頭的各個學門裡頭事實上都有原名相關的研究主題以去年的研究為例分佈在各個學門的原名相關研究大概就有16件那這樣我知道了我要講的就是這件事當時我會這樣子做質詢就是因為看到原住民的研究領域只有被放在主題市 |
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那就我所知就是這三年多來其實還是沒有雖然當時有做出決議也給我回覆但是還是沒有我知道的是你們仍舊用五千多萬的專案來替代所以我一開始我希望主委您還是要重視這個問題 |
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因為這個跟我接下來要問的問題是有關係的我希望這個部分我還是重新的要來要求既然國科會是負責知識的管理 學門的分類那我不曉得說 主委在您的認知 什麼叫做知識體系我想這個很難定義 |
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好那主委我跟您說我的看法是這樣因為這幾年有一個110到114的補助原住民知識體系你知道編列多少錢嗎五年編列18.6億您認為多還是不多 |
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這個要看有多少研究的人是 因為我自己也不敢講多還是不多我們當然希望越多越好但是我不知道我們的成果到底有沒有等量奇觀但是我現在知道的是說我們的原住民族的研究啊既沒有學門作為次領域然後呢你們給予的這一些所謂的專案補助計畫國科會也沒有上位的一個概念 |
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我就不懂 那原住民的知識體系到底要怎麼建構起來那現在我們的法源在原基法的第五條寫著中央原住民主管機關要會商 教育 科技 文化等主管機關來建構原住民族知識體系現在我們原住民的知識體系建構的情形主委 你有人跟你報告過嗎 |
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還沒有 你看沒有嘛 我跟您說今天你們業務報告喔 |
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02頁只有占第87頁占三分之一頁的篇幅就這樣而已整個計畫18.6億就這樣而已所以呢我要講的是說這個是有法源的也就去編列了這樣的一個法定預算經費好那現在我要問喔這邊有一個圖啊 |
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有一個建構的圖說是排灣族的知識體系請問一下主委你看到這樣的一個圖你認為它是屬於什麼他說叫分類架構他把排灣族的知識體系分類成這樣下一頁你看這個喇喇族他也把他的知識你看建構成這樣那到底知識體系的建構要怎麼建構沒有人知道說不清楚 |
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這麼重要的東西都說不清楚所以恐怕我要問進度跟成效諸位你應該也講不出來對不對因為沒有人跟你報告過 |
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沒有嘛好那我跟您說其實你們是這樣子講的齁當時你們說要配合建構原住民知識體系說這個中長期計畫要分三個面向第一個叫知識建構第二個呢叫知識實踐第三個叫做雲端服務然後五年110到114今年是第五年18.6億要來做我知道的是 |
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我們的原民會分配給國科會你們是要做雲端的服務那我真的不曉得說我該怎麼問下去你們到底執行了多少當時你們的經費佔比我來看好了這個是我們的那個概算表國科會的經費佔比是4.2億到底有沒有做我請我們處長好 謝謝處長是 報 |
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報告委員就是剛剛最主要的那18億主要的預算可能是我們園民會那邊執行你們分配到4.2是在我們國科會這邊我們除了剛剛的這一個有一個專案每年是5800萬的這一個就是我們族群跟園民的特殊專案之外就是我們當年希望變次領域結果你們把它變成是專案補助5000多萬 |
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喔不就是說它除了這個是專案補助之外剛剛跟委員報告每年有46件的那個執行案它不是在這個專案它是分布在各個那處長我懂了因為我下一頁就是要講這個我們看到這個知識體系中長城計畫當中 |
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國科會這邊是說補助學生做一個原住民知識研究五年預計要補助八十件另外一個是補助學者推動原住民族的知識研究五年預計要補助兩百四十五件那再請教處長目前總共補助幾件 |
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假如是以我們每年大概在各個學門有46件來看的話所以五年確實就是會有200多件那另外有關於學生的部分是我們補助大專生的研究計畫那這個部分的資料我們可能要再盤點一下 |
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因為我看起來可能要到辦公室我們要來溝通討論一下因為我真的是不曉得說該要怎麼講你看這個文化知識體系的中長城計畫建制原住民族知識數位資料庫主辦是科技部那我想說目前的進度如何有跟原民會合作嗎 |
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跟委員報告這是另外一個計畫就是說我們有請政大關大偉老師協助的這個資料庫大概每年是兩千六百萬左右那目前這個計畫也正在執行中所以這個是政大有來主辦 |
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是我們請關老師協助的一個那請教您知不知道這一些跟現在園民會主辦的各個族群的原住民知識體系建構那個計畫它有一個連通性嗎我知道他們彼此都有互相的一個非常綿密的一個協調所以是互相撈計畫嗎照理說應該是你們撈到那邊的計畫要做雲端處理對不對 |
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有做雲端處理嗎還是說政大做的那個計畫其實就跟現在東華大學他們分配給各個大學做的知識體系差不多應該以國科的角度在研究的部分後設分析的部分會比較多一點那中間應該會有綿密的一個交流那有成果報告出來嗎 |
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每一年每一年都有成果的報告那長什麼樣子你知道嗎裡面寫什麼東西你知道嗎我曾經看過一個成果他要做一個泰雅族的課綱他四年用兩千多萬一年五百多萬成果報告繳出來那個課綱長的樣子就是幾頁而已 |
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到底知識體系是什麼做出來到底長什麼現在AI的時代來臨了我也看到國科會你們有一個版本人工智慧基本法那現在我要講的是說現在這個基本功其實 |
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連我們國科會都說不出來知識體系是什麼更何況怎麼做知識的分類那這個基本功都已經亂七八糟我可以這樣講嗎那如果導入AI怎麼辦呢看綠啊看綠啊 |
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無論如何我覺得國科會責無旁貸就是要來負責這些所謂知識的一個盤點儲存跟管理那現在如果要導入雲端要結合AI那我就覺得更恐怖啦為什麼呢因為科技始終來自於人性更何況我們已經看到很多報告 |
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AI也會複製再製歧視喔因為它收集到的各種全世界各地原住民的資料收集很少喔所以當我們只是這樣子去撈資料我們的知識體系只是搜尋這些文獻文獻裡面已經很多歧視的不正確錯誤的資料我們再拿來做索引做關鍵字做雲端資料我覺得這個是很可怕的一件事 |
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所以在這個部分我真的是希望說我們國科會我們既然來主責我們知識的分類我希望這個分類建構國科會還是要拿出態度那因為今年已經是第五年那過去我們也沒有在預算上面多做刁難苛責 |
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但是今年是第五年而且會影響到要不要有第二期因為這個叫中長期計劃我們覺得非常的堪憂所以這個部分我在這邊特別提醒也希望說我們國科會協同園民會針對 |
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這幾年的一個援助民族知識體系的建構提供書面資料就是這五年的執行狀況希望能夠來到辦公室做一個說明我也不想看紙本資料我們親自來溝通說明好不好好 謝謝委員好 謝謝主委 謝謝主席謝謝吳立豪委員剛剛質詢得太精彩了我不小心太早站起來不好意思那這個謝謝主委 |