IVOD_ID |
159229 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159229 |
日期 |
2025-03-17 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-3 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
3 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-17T10:51:12+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-17T10:59:16+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:04 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/597499b2503050fbdb5e6a6245cdcaae871e4a585984f629eba1aea0cf818e91e3ceebef6e54c8ad5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
委員發言時間 |
10:51:12 - 10:59:16 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第3次全體委員會議(事由:邀請僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告業務概況,並備質詢。) |
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請委員長 來 何秀圍委員長張委員早安早安 委員長 先講一下 你今年總議席增加多少總議席只有增加一億多 |
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兩億五千七百五十四億啦不是 那個都是真兩億五千七百五十四萬一千塊錢這個要恭喜啦表示你第一個可能做得不錯第二個就是我們對我以為那個都是一個蘿蔔一個坑因為是學生的那個補助費做得不錯 業務量也在增加這對我們的僑胞是好的啦那你剛剛在擔心一個事情你在說凍結事情 |
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我請問一下 僑委會從成立到現在有因為立法院凍結預算 導致你們知愛難省真的沒辦法做嗎有史以來喔 不是只有你這個不見喔有史以來 僑委會曾經因為立法院凍結了你們的預算導致你們業務推動上有困難嗎 |
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跟委員報告這一次的凍結及刪除是我們近十年來最高的一次結果第一個你的親兒還是那麼多嘛我現在跟你講一個但是委員跟你報告我的業務增加了兩倍所以我預算才增加不到才兩億可是我的工作是增加兩倍 |
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所以如果按照這個邏輯應該給我增加二十億才對可是我預算沒辦法一下增加這麼多你連到行政院主計處都不給你這麼多錢了所以我們這個基期是慢慢在加的可是才加一點點兩億我就被砍掉五千了對所以大家重視這個僑務這個是非常好的不過錢也不可能一下跳兩倍啦你業務量當然要一直在增加我現在再強調一個點今年的僑委會的預算是比去年增加了兩億多的第二個如果凍結 |
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從歷年來為什麼有凍結凍結不是刪減啊刪減回不來凍結馬上就可以處理我從民國76年來跑立法委員這次的凍結之所以奇怪是因為他本來都在委員會可以處理我們就這樣子處理提書報沒有問題但今年有一些預算的凍結是要到院會 |
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而且是報告後要經同意使得動資這個的話代表說我們在排案的時候時間會拖很久那我們該發包的東西我們會來不及去執行重點在這裡比方說我六七月要做殷予銀計畫了那我殷予銀計畫被凍結的這個額數如果不能在六月以前解凍那我這個要支付廠商我怎麼支付 |
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馬上我七月底就辦完了所以這是我擔心的問題事實上送到院會去解凍這個在以前也有過啦你現在就趕快去要求你們的重點應該是每次的提案裡面都有他的暗流嘛對不對他到底做什麼事情你現在就應該準備好我已經準備好了我已經準備好了我現在要等他們的排案所以我就要問啊第一個你跟沈博洋關係好不好如果在委員會趕快排如果院會趕快去要求委員會的部分我不擔心我現在提一個點非常重要 |
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歷年來被凍結預算後來沒有解凍的非常非常少我給大家看一個資料但是歷年來去到用會做解凍的也非常非常少 |
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今年是非常特殊的一年不但額度很高而且是送院會去報告然後要經同意才使得動作其實來得及現在院會都已經開議了院會會耽誤你們的解凍嗎不是因為我們而已還有其他各部會大家一起排案的行商部會比我們多很多我們就會被犧牲排到最後面去 |
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你為什麼一定會排到後面去我希望委員可以支持我們讓我們排在最前面可以定型啦不見得誰先誰後也不是說一個案子一個案子要花很多時間每個案子都要經同意所以要表決的你說同時上去嘛我現在提一個點非常重要歷年來光是民國94年凍結的這個比例今年凍結全部4.6% |
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2005年凍結多少12.71%欸凍結了2078億民國95年凍結了13.24%金額是2130億啊那時候每一年都可以如期的解凍啊今年為什麼不行所以不要再叫 |
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委員那時候一樣是草小野大的狀態沒有錯但是當時的凍結有些東西是凍結在這個新興計劃裡面但是這一次我們很大的部分是一部車子性能很好可是呢沒有給我們足夠的油錢所以我們就只能開到之後就停止了我會盡力克服你應該是解決問題的人不是要一直在解釋問題而且立法院你趕快把相關的提案送到議員會如果是委員會你送一個損保養趕快排就解凍了 |
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好的 謝謝委員不要一直在解釋問題現在裡面這個是不好的而且從以前的例子不管凍結的這個比例比你們多了三倍四倍都是解凍的趕快去解決問題我來談我看你今天這個報告裡面的第三頁是特別強調海外的這個橋台商企業長期在提升台灣全球競爭力上面扮演非常關鍵的角色接下來我們幫我們的橋台商來講講話 |
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那總統沒有跟大家溝通 也沒有討論突然就宣布說把中國大陸定義為境外敵對勢力那你這邊衝擊應該就會很大了因為你這個僑胞裡面很多也是台商嘛 對不對很多台商 很多僑商的這個代表 領袖他可能同時在中國大陸那邊他也是一個台商組織的這個領袖嘛 對不對 |
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那這個對你衝擊 你要怎麼去保障這些僑商跟委員報告 僑委會主管的權限範圍是不包含海峽兩岸三地這個是屬於陸委會的權責範圍我是在海峽兩岸三地之外的台商才是我們努力的目標所以這個權限範圍不一樣 |
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好 所以委員長來我具體要求三個因為重疊性太高嘛所以要求第一個你對僑商團體還有僑民團體跟中國大陸台商團體身份有重疊的你要趕快去做這個統計所以我們過去五六年來已經這樣在做你目前手上有這個統計嗎 |
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我們在應該講我們跟海基會有在尋求了解一些資料事實上這五年六年來從中國移出的台商到東南亞佈局的比例相當高這是一個事實那個委員長這要非常具體啦好不好你的這個僑民處僑商處跟僑生處今天都有疊嘛要趕快動起來這個要很明確的因應跟統計好不好好你多久可以給我這個資料一個禮拜 |
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你們的手上應該要有啊重疊的部分有些我們要跟海基會跟陸委會去對一下要對一下要對一下因為他們以後進出中國大陸老實講風險就增高了其實不單單是在中國投資的台商風險高現在連我們在海外其他的那些美國公民的台商或者是日本公民的台商他們進到中國一樣有風險 |
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那個風險就是因為中國的國安法通過以後他們可以不定期的沒有理由的把他拘留你把重疊人數統計出來給我第二個你要對他們造成什麼樣的一個衝擊跟風險評估做個評估給我好不好這個應該是陸委會的職責吧沒有啦你重疊部分啦對你的僑胞第三部分對僑民僑商跟僑生以後進出中國大陸 |
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我相信這三個村應該都要動起來了吧這個我們都有都有在宣導 都請大家盡量減少去對 你做什麼樣的因應啦就是夠時你講的他們供 僑胞跟僑民對我們貢獻這麼大對不對那這是國家有新的這個措施了對於他們的風險跟這個怎麼樣去讓他們避險怎麼保護他們我們一起努力好不好好的 謝謝一個禮拜內把這個資料給我好不好好 謝謝張委員好 謝謝 |