| IVOD_ID |
159168 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159168 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T12:55:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T13:04:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770facd0e799c00284ed0aae3c1a04a00b1b75917ee1f59655e54081f7d117a098d95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:55:20 - 13:04:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長就「有關全國急重症醫療量能」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【如遇加開院會本次會議取消，不再另行通知】） |
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現在我們說醫護血汗這一個崩潰兩個字來形容那這個崩潰 |
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也已經很久到底我們改善的口號還要很多久我們看到現在目前為止醫護現場的崩潰無論是急診室的庸塞重症病患難以排入ICU尤其我們還看到我們的醫護人員真的太辛苦了 |
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他必須要上了十幾個小時急診一個人要顧十幾個人救護車送病患來 甚至全部滿床重症者沒有床不能那怎麼辦 救護車的床啊下來做暫時床做暫時床在這樣的情況之下 我只能夠用血汗崩潰來形容 |
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我要請教因為你也是來自醫界你也當過民意代表真正的原因是什麼會導致現在的現狀真正的原因是什麼請做說明 |
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這個有分長期跟短期啦那短期這次發生的比較嚴重我們不可諱言就是護理人力方面需要加強護理缺人力不足醫療體系缺人在近期當然是比較明顯那長期來講就是我們在推分級 |
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醫療這個部分也沒有落實那民眾還是相信大醫院其實有些病其實是可以找他社區的一個診所醫師部長你剛剛所說的原因主要你講出三點第一個也就是整個醫療體系缺人 |
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接下來缺衣物接下來護理人員不足那這個原因這麼危急他面臨到下一個環節問題是什麼請問下一個環節問題是什麼導致這樣的原因條件下一個環節是什麼 |
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下一個環節就是醫院要關病房急診待診停治的時間會越多 |
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對不對再來就是門診床位調度會失衡是不是所以它是連環問題一直產生你是醫界出身你告訴我是這不是一朝一夕耶也不是現在才發生因為在疫情之後我們已經提出出現了護病比是1比10 |
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是不是所以你們在評鑑裡頭你提出的1比6 1比7 1比9作為評鑑的原因之內所以因此我要跟你討論1比12的地區醫院也因為如此你剛剛講到一個關鍵醫務人員不夠所以只好關病房對不對所以這樣的情況我們要怎麼解決我回顧在2003年的時候 |
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我們為了也就是病房費在我們健保體系我們把它拉出來護理人員單獨體系對不對護理會拉出來目的要做什麼我們希望護理人員很辛苦他可以願意要留下來而且我們專款專用第一梯是20億 |
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就如此解決了當時稍微的緊張可以緩和一點但是到目前為止我們要怎麼辦我們要怎麼辦離職潮這麼多衍生的問題因為人力不足導致醫院的方式關病房也好再急診請大家不要再到急診了媒體這麼罷你看到吧那你要怎麼解決 |
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你今天是部長當然必須要到急診還是到急診那如果說一些未婚化的症狀那我們希望說能夠有分流的機制那這樣能舒緩急診的壓力這個部分當然從預防性的措施我們要做那至於說人力方面我們不停的在努力提高醫護同仁的待遇還有改善公司醫護同仁的待遇我們問兩種總統說 |
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總統說我們的這個三班互併筆要入法什麼時候要入法已經過了一年了他說兩年或者在任內你是他的部長你會完成他的承諾嗎我一定會完成他的承諾你會完成他的承諾也就是說我們的三班互併筆一定會入法你現在進程怎麼樣 |
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跟委員報告進程如何你們現在討論到哪裡其實這個有很多政策請針對議題提問因為你已經說你會完成總統的政治承諾那請問但是因為要達到的時候也是要努力嘛所以我們現在 |
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你現在進度怎麼樣?沒關係本期只要了解進度我們首相的努力之下我們從去年的3月醫學中心36%達到三班護病比 三班喔都達到的36%現在已經59了 |
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所以你現在不是在入法嘛你現在只是自助嘛現在是獎勵的情況之下那區議院已經到達50%那地區議院已經到達94%我相信獎勵的如果落實對於護病比應該是會達到更好的目標獎勵的經費在你編列在今年度 |
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是你編的嘛大家全力支持嘛對不對感謝感謝感謝齁還好你說一句感謝不能再造謠一定要好好講好好地支持我們的醫護所以本期在這裡討論因為會計速度還沒有完成所以我們現在對不起還沒一頁還沒辦法發啦等整個預算確認以後我們就趕快來發從一頁就要趕快來發這個項目是79.87億嘛對不對大家全力地在支持啊 |
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所以接下來本席要請問您剛才承諾的你會完成總統他所說的互併三班這個字的路法對不對三班互併筆你會完成他的 |
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全力以赴完成任務全力以赴完成任務好請你繼續加油接下來我要請問面對到這樣的問題你要怎麼做本席具體給你建議在短期之內你必須要增加因為民眾需求你剛才說的醫院在喊不要到急診來了我們已經超額很多好幾倍了你說該去還是要去不是你一句該去還是要去你要解決他們的問題啊 |
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所以急診住院的配床是不是應該要增加第二個 用設施所需的醫護人力是不是要增加第三個 要建立ICU的調配制度在短期內是不是應該這三項要好好的趕快去協助他們有 這個都在努力都在努力 方案請給本席好 沒問題接下來中長期 |
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499.455 |
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525.678 |
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護理人員我說我從2003年就開始護理人員的待遇跟工作狀態都應該列為你重要的改革政策真正的來場支持我們的醫護包括我們的護理會你的預算這個向下要怎麼樣專款專用不能再挪用對不對是不是該給護理的我們一定要求醫院要公開透明 |
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526.601 |
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547.672 |
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不能扣東扣西公開透明不能扣東扣西立法院大家全力的支持你這79億多將近80億我希望你好好善用真正讓我們的護理人員醫護可以好好放心的來照顧這是我們非常希望要努力的目標請你把方案給本席謝謝好 感謝委員謝謝楊委員 謝謝部長 |