IVOD_ID |
159165 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159165 |
日期 |
2025-03-13 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-2 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
2 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-13T12:47:00+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-13T12:55:11+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:11 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770f4f5763659a33611b0aae3c1a04a00b1b86f8ffab8834d983be90c14cbbb16b115ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
委員發言時間 |
12:47:00 - 12:55:11 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議(事由:邀請衛生福利部部長就「有關全國急重症醫療量能」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
【如遇加開院會本次會議取消,不再另行通知】) |
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他講完再處理好不好剛剛都六十幾分貝而已主席可以嗎好像耽誤時間的不是我吧前面主席在主持議事的時候我們都尊重嘛 |
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委員諮詢了快半個小時,你沒制止我們靜靜的在等,一句話都沒有非常尊重主席、議事的處理希望這個基本的文明跟秩序,在未完委員會可以繼續貫徹好,來請部長委員好 |
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部長,我想基層護理同仁的福利跟他的心聲,向來是我長期關注的事情上個會期針對這件事情,也有跟部長幫基層的護理師請命部長也有做一些承諾,這個我們等一下再來講 |
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但是現在大家更關心的事情是說護理人員近10年離職離居空缺率不斷的升高那部長看起來好像也蠻認真的有打電話去問各個醫院說護理師現在的待遇如何那顯然部長應該也是肯認整個基本上面的勞動環境是護理師是不是繼續願意留在工作崗位上面 |
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一個最重要的原因,我這樣說沒有錯吧?是對嗎?非常重要的原因好,非常重要的原因,那我們就來看賴清德總統選總統的時候,說那個護病筆要入法他那個時候講的稍微抽象一點,說兩年或者是他任內賴清德總統的這個政治承諾,部長會不會跳票? |
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跟委員報告因為我們一定努力所以我們先用獎勵那獎勵的比例現在奇怪怎麼部長現在講的跟賴清德當初提出來的競選政見差這麼多那個部長不好意思就是你如果要做其他的政治宣言你去開記者會 |
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這裡尋答就針對問題回答我的問題非常明確我想我們會一直溝通特別是跟醫院因為要充實護理人員請你聽我的問題回答好嗎好賴清德講了這個話兩年會任內護病筆錄法這個政治承諾會不會跳票我想在他特別會面有一個兩年內跟任內的這個我想我們會盡量來完成會盡量來完成跳票誰要負責 |
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是你的責任還是賴清德的責任?那就是我工作不力對,就是你工作不力你很有肩膀,自己把他扛起來但我也幫你講一句話開這個支票的是賴清德當初這個支票開出來了以後,站在你旁邊的這位市長非常會打蛇隨棍上 |
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配合當初副總統要選總統的政見趕快出來表示就是2023年11月20號的表示逐字是這樣講的最快今年年底行政程序決定出最終的版本 |
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他發話的時間是2023年11月20號最快今年年底就會最終版本最快有望明年上路就2024年上路那顯然到現在是沒有上路是不是飄飄我補充一下這個是應該是三班戶並比的標準 |
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三班戶邊筆的標準不是入法那現在如果沒有符合這個標準的話現在沒有符合這個標準有什麼狀況 |
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不是 這個就是說標準定案是 那如果沒有符合標準會造成什麼狀況我們是在2024年的奇怪 我這麼簡單的問題你都可以繞來繞去現在我的問題很明確我們現在是用獎勵所以你還是沒有回答我的問題嗎是有效果的你現在定一個標準嘛你現在就定一個標準嘛我的問題是沒有符合這個標準的法律效果是什麼 |
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那你就直接回答沒有法律效果就好了嘛這麼簡單的問題寫來寫去這麼簡單的問題繞來繞去就是沒有法律效果嘛如果用獎勵的方式會有用的話現在的情況會這樣嗎當初那個清德是說用獎勵的方式嗎 |
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這樣對嗎?選前騙票?選後跳票?這樣對嗎?這個就是基層護理同仁他們的心聲這個就是基層護理同仁的心聲這個我們一定努力但是這個要跟醫院來配合就是也要聽聽醫院看看他能不能做得到做不到所以嘛這就是等到2024年等到票投完了以後薛瑞元才講大實話嘛 |
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沒有辦法入法沒有時程選前一套選後一套對比的這麼清楚莫此為勝這為什麼大家不滿理由就是這個去年的時候五一勞動節集成的醫護就出來喊沒有達標也沒有罰則這是為什麼去年在問法委員會問這題 |
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在問完委員會問這題問完了以後然後呢然後就沒有然後了嘛繼續賴題啊就像卓榮泰講的啊我們是用獎勵的方式啊看了令人瞠目結舌啊我很希望2023年的時候賴清德總統啊是誠實的告訴全國人民啊我打算用獎勵的方式啊 |
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來處理三班互併比的問題啊而不是在選前的時候講一套選後的時候跳票跳票完了推一個行政院院長出來厚著臉皮講我是用獎勵的方式喔報告委員因為時間還沒到啦我們會盡量來努力OK好沒關係有一件事情是時間到了我去年質詢就跟你講啊說專科護理師沒有拿到 |
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然後你說你一定會按照衛福部的規定去發放有嗎今年一月開始會發沒有啦今年一月是今年一月的事情啊去年該給人家的到現在都沒給啊我去年就是在問去年該給沒給的啊該給沒給的啊藉著清償期還不履行限於幾副職員然後你跟我說今年會給 |
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去年有啊 去年我們二七是給一般急性病房的沒有 所以我就要你先停一下好不好我如果今天沒有得到護理師的陳情我今天會傻傻的站在這邊質詢喔你們跟我說會做 那我就一定會去追蹤嘛我追蹤出來的結果就沒有嘛所以才會陳情到我這邊來嘛現實上是什麼 現實上就沒領到啊 |
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這每一家醫院的護理師我全部都去check過啦部長 質詢的時間到了這涉及到你的承諾這也到齊了 這不是還沒到齊的事情啊回去清查 一個禮拜以後給我書面回覆好不好好的 可以齁好 謝謝委員 |