IVOD_ID |
159120 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159120 |
日期 |
2025-03-13 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-2 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
2 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-03-13T11:23:18+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-03-13T11:35:15+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:11:57 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770fc0e16084ad3be94e0aae3c1a04a00b1bff1cdb1affc83ff44ecdb07f450427e85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
委員發言時間 |
11:23:18 - 11:35:15 |
會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議(事由:邀請衛生福利部部長就「有關全國急重症醫療量能」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
【如遇加開院會本次會議取消,不再另行通知】) |
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謝謝主席我請部長還有石署長好 請問邱部長跟石署長卓偉好好柏廉是我們一年看接近的人次到底多少 |
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我看到很多data有的是說總人口數的20%有的講40%到底是我都不曉得確實的一年急診的人次是多少這個有統計嗎 |
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我們查一下好了那第二個這個急診的問題因為你我們署長是長很接近的嘛那市長也很接近的所以這個急診的問題事實上是從我們第八對立委的時候就一直突顯出來所以不是現在才發生那為什麼今年會特別嚴重為什麼 署長 |
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當然有很多的原因我們過去認為當然是不是 |
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免疫負載以後的感染病比較多這當然是一部分那天氣的一個變化所以集中症的就是說中風心臟病或者慢性病的一個惡化這個也是其中之一那當然我們也了解到如果上上面的床數沒有足沒有夠的話當然上就上不去那這個部分也會變成在急診後床方面的一個 |
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一個問題會呈現出來我想都是原因我們都慢慢在預防、在檢討 |
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那急診要做分級醫療要做什麼我覺得一直推都推不成功的原因最主要是我們來看急診的病人我們分1、2、3、4、5級嘛1級、2級是最嚴重3級是普通4級、5級是可以等待那現在的問題是我們人口老化那小孩子又都在多位區那老人家都在鄉下比較多 |
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那所以這些老人到急診他可能三幾個來但是他會好轉的稍微半但是會惡化的也一半所以連醫生也沒辦法掌握這個病人是會好轉還是惡化尤其像現在呼吸道感染如果又病加細菌感染又是病毒一個晚上就白掉了整個肺部我們在急診看到就是這樣 |
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所以,你也不敢強制說哇,你剛才,你剛才急診,你剛才,你剛才問診看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看,看, |
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台灣會做這個分級醫療做不成功很難成功這個就是最大的問題普頓你覺得怎麼樣 |
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我感覺稍微講一下就有得益了但是我們這個可以改善啦譬如說我們如果能夠不要生小病小病能夠馬上得到診斷就不會每次都已經到很嚴重才到急診嘛所以我們現在的努力整個說實在的健康台灣現在很重視從營養、運動、生活型態的一個改變大家看比較健康的 |
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第二你第一算要有一個全民的健康健全各種服務那這些基層醫療大家來做要讓百合民眾來信任我們的基層的診所我想這個我們早期過去是說醫師公會、理事長也是對基層醫療非常的重視 |
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跟加強這是一直大家在努力的民眾可以有信心我也不能強迫說民眾要有信心而是我們要提出我們可以做哪些事情讓民眾有信心他自然就不會跑去我比較心想也不要用硬性的讓民眾能夠有信心這不會是最重要的我們的家屬跟病人自己會選擇 |
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自己會虛擬的分類他會怎麼樣他不敢去哪裡他會趕快跑大醫院跑大醫院是最他最大的安心嘛所以去那邊擠去那邊塞你也安心 |
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所以現在這撒不走,這也是公派處,也是好處啊你看日本做分子醫療,做得很好,做得下癮好,那就是出事了一個救護車撒的,在那邊撞,在那邊撞,沒人要收日本就是這樣,真的這樣啊,所以像日本這樣好,我也不知道 |
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所以藝人在那裡出事我講那裡就藝人那種case在民東就不會出事了不要說對去到我那裡我一口沒了就整起來了 |
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真的生氣了急診室就在生啊所以跟大家報告我們台灣這個醫療的可敬性跟高水平又廣覆蓋當然問題一大堆大家從早上罵到現在但是我覺得我們就是那麼棒嘛我們就這麼好啊保健你這麼好啊署長你也這麼好啊大家拚到死啊有限的資源做那麼多事我是覺得我要跟你們肯定啦 |
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事實上真的大家都盡心盡力講一些情緒話有什麼了不起呢大家也有情緒所以我覺得這個都可以理解大家要同理心這個問題也從馬英九時代到蔡英文時代到現在 |
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都一樣啊但是現在如果可以越改善當然是越好啦所以我們大家不要講意識形態啦這個醫療跟意識形態一點關係都沒有啦所以普通 你會看到什麼啊再來就是 那個福利的大家現在站一腳就三十幾萬人在線上的才十幾萬人 |
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有一大堆是回家帶小孩照顧公婆他是可以出來做part-time的那這一塊剛剛你有講到說可以把他recall回來這在美國就很多啦美國就很多就是他你叫他做全職他沒辦法 |
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但是這些人他們就組一個公司也好啦一個是合作社也好啊你就Apply啊他就來給你part-time來做三點鐘四點鐘這在美國很平常的啊我們這裡這塊這一塊真的要好好的來應用啦不然這些人都是人力浪費啊是寶丁你覺得怎麼樣 |
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我們在12項的護理人力裡面第10項就是多元化彈性護理自治職業那國防會也對這一點也要做一點幫助這真的像我們太太過去都照顧小孩現在小孩比較不要理他他就開始恢復去樂團拉琴並不理我這樣就對了 |
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所以但是他能夠這些回流到護理在化為他過去的護理的專業我覺得是一個很珍貴我跟部長報告我們屏東縣的個衛生所的護理人員退休我們都趁回來做什麼做長照、做照覆 |
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他65歲,我60歲,拿下來身強體壯,你讓他去拉琴他也沒有婦女,他也沒有婦女這就沒意義了所以,這些人就回來了衛生所的主任65歲退休,我就把他請回來當公衛做什麼幾乎只要來,我就拼所以我要拼我們的衛生所主任退休下來我現在已經解決了,很好啊 |
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有的到七八十歲還很強啊所以現在的人沒有退休年齡嘛所以這個都是人力的運用啦這個我們會努力的這個你們都沒有看到好那最後一分鐘給我我要講一下我們自己的事情這個要感謝因為我們從去年我們安排法人會休除 |
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還在往後胎頭頭頭傷亡慘重那我們從去年10月3號到現在我今天是第二次發生我從來不講話的那都默默的在做該怎麼樣 |
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民事的補償、賠償都在完善那所有的轉出去的病人回來只要跟我們要求我全部都給他給我我沒說過話從來沒有在媒體上講過任何一句負面的話我們都一直在做我們10月3號輝學署訪台10月4號我們就在做緊急診療館這樣 |
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我們是醫護人員這麼拼然後我們的護理人員從六個多月來離職的不到十個 |
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不到10個我沒有給他輔導到法人 其他的長照什麼 朝朝安泰等等我們是盡心盡 現在有好戶價的那這些偏鄉的醫護人員 當然是我們要保護啊我們是袋子袋心 請他休假等等或者是平常沒有休假的就給他補休 |
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做到非常非常完善那我們也很認真在做很感謝我們衛福部我們醫事師我們健保署還有我們屏東縣政府都給我們一直的幫忙輔導所以我在這邊要跟大家致謝那我們希望 |
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我們的員工能夠呵護他們鼓勵他們讓他們那邊繼續來替我們的屏南地區重度責任醫院我們的角色我們是努力在扮演那昨天 |
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657.663 |
transcript.whisperx[31].end |
683.184 |
transcript.whisperx[31].text |
我們在這邊投票醫事師 醫策會還是做重症的考核我也很感謝所以在這裡補充再次的致謝希望大家一起來跟我們的員工跟我們的醫護人員大家一起呵護 一起鼓勵不要不要沒有意義啦我從來不講過一句負面的話所以我在這裡要跟 |
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684.105 |
transcript.whisperx[32].end |
712.011 |
transcript.whisperx[32].text |
部長在一次的報告那我們你看我們這個這個上一張這個排碼排案榜我不曉得要怎麼排的啦這個是newsweek他們排的我們屏東縣還是我們安泰的員工的努力我們是台灣排32名的耶這不是我白說的耶 屏東只有這間而已所以不要亂說啦也不要亂說啦我是覺得大家一起來啦感謝各位 謝謝 |
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713.24 |
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713.944 |
transcript.whisperx[33].text |
好 謝謝委員 謝謝政務委員 |