| IVOD_ID |
159089 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159089 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T10:38:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T10:50:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770fccd68d016416a369e83d902c8d6dd6c2f83dc853112caf456e20a296e7f2f0315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:39 - 10:50:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 在場的委員先進列席的政務機關所長 官員會長 觀眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請楊總裁有請總裁外匯局蔡局長陳局長還有財經資訊公司林董事長林董事長請總委員早總裁好總裁趁你還沒注意到我趕快進入下一頁請問總裁你認為這三個都市哪一個稱得上是亞洲金融中心 |
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亞洲金融中心的話我們如果講一般比較會那個的話現在我們應該就是說香港跟新加坡比較但是現在就香港因為香港本身現在所以香港跟新加坡是算啦公金也算吧他算是在亞洲裡面的重要的那這三個地方都有設置資產管理中心嗎 |
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因為資產管理中心算是亞洲金融中心的一部份的功能那台灣有可能取代哪一個成為亞洲金融中心嗎? |
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我想就是說我們不要就是說是取代啦我們不要說取代因為你的發展跟他有些時候不太一樣那不必要就是說是要取代那我們請教一下 總裁你念書的時候有寫過做我的志願你的志願有沒有想過你有一天會當總裁沒有想過那你會不會覺得有一天你可能會成為總統 |
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不要小看啦現在加拿大的總理是前任的總裁啊所以太謙虛太客氣過去不該想的事情未來不是沒有可能這一點啊我才會就是說非常非常的謝謝莊委員 |
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給我非常大的鼓勵那說實在的你在講的時候呢我為什麼我平常不會笑得那麼大聲我不會笑得那麼大聲但是呢我笑得那麼大聲是說我從來沒有想過但是呢委員給我的鼓勵我們人要有志氣啊 |
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臺灣就算不能取代人家成為亞洲金融中心也可以成為一個亞洲的資產管理中心有這個條件吧其實呢在COVID-19之後呢我又再度回到越南這次我去啊有個台商接待我他看說他創造一個新的商業模式怎麼樣呢他在一個商業大樓裡面底下的大賣場啊有一個美食廣場 |
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這個美食廣場我們要去吃飯不是一個點一個點去付錢沒有他說進去之前你先弄一個儲值卡我除了一百萬月頓你要多少錢嗎一百萬月頓沒多少啦一千五台幣啦然後這個儲值卡呢我每一攤呢就可以去消費消費完之後呢我要離開了他可以把儲值卡再結清那這樣子呢我去每一攤呢我也不用再拿月頓去跟他換 |
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那這個美食廣場還有誰的客人還有樓上的這些上班族的客人你覺得這個商業模式有沒有很特別啊其實我覺得沒有很特別我還想想說不對啊這個小時候我們參加原油會也是這樣子啊拿一百塊的換原油券對不對那去每個攤位消費消費完了之後呢店家拿原油券去換錢是不是這樣差別在哪裡還是有一個差別差別是呢 |
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顧客不能拿原油先把錢換回來而且呢是一張一張的而這個他說我的新模式是用儲值卡對不對對好那這個很像什麼呢往下看這個就很像我們說的亞資中心啊造源投資國家發展方案 |
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央行支不支持兆元投資國家方案當然支持那這個雅資中心是不是其中一個重要部分它是不是創造一個讓金融業者跟台灣的這三大比如公共建設長照產業永續產業把台幣的這些產業的投資變成金融商品放到這個雅資中心也歡迎外來的投資來進行對不對好請問最後他不是原油券喔他投資完了之後他沒有用完的話賺到的他要帶走有沒有匯兌的問題會不會有匯兌的問題 |
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這個雅致中心可能是用美元計價嘛 對不對對好 那我們看看央行怎麼說央行說雅致中心不得涉及匯率外匯商品不開放涉新台幣匯率外匯商品這個非資產管理的障礙你們認為這個不會造成資產管理的障礙為什麼為什麼 |
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我們在這邊說我如果原油券不能換回我的新台幣我都是去球場演遊會啊我去弄個儲值卡我去那邊銷貨幹嘛我還買了什麼東西我沒有玩的可以帶走啊如果去做生意我還可以帶走啊是不是這樣所以我希望呢央行思考一下你們說未設新台幣匯率的商品呢你們持開放態度什麼叫開放你反過來說嘛沒有涉及的我是開放有涉及的呢不允許好往下看 |
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金管會現在在負責亞資中心他錯的這個圖啊多元產業呢有跟無之間新疆模式跟香港模式他們基本上他們有外資跟金流但是他們沒有什麼沒有產業台灣呢有產業有投資像日本模式台灣模式介乎在這兩者之間結果現在日本新加坡香港被列為觀察匯率的操縱名單你認為台灣如果加入了讓這樣的資產管理中心 |
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這個有沒有開放外匯跟你們的擔心有沒有關聯應該是沒有關聯那既然沒有擔心被列為匯率操縱觀察名單人家日本、新加坡、香港都可以這樣做了為什麼央行不這樣做事實上剛剛你說原油、原油匯那些那些都是小額的啦那有小額的我跟委員報告就小額的來講我們也是非常自由你看看 |
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但是我們要做亞洲資產管理中心是兆元兆元你再不弄開放外匯你說的也沒有錯不過就像那個小額的話你看看我們個人我們本來是因為是巨額才不能比照個人有小額的外匯法規去管理是巨額的時候小額的話我們也不會管 |
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所以就問你巨額的人你不開放或部分的鬆綁他沒辦法進行嗎你五百萬一個個人我們就說個人來講五百萬到一千萬我們不要岔題它當然不是研究會也不是一個美食廣場的儲值卡它是一個造源產業的資產管理中心所以請你們外匯局好好去研究一下可不可以可以喔 下一頁 |
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好 金管會允許銀行發行穩定幣請問這個跟我們央行的CBDC之間的關聯是什麼 |
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我想那個穩定幣他可以發行啊跟我們CPTC發行 打幣嘛對不對那穩定幣是業者嘛 他居然是B2B嘛那透過你們的CPTC他去做個連結目前央行沒有時間表 國際上也沒有推動跨境支付嘛所以你們CPTC沒有要做跨境支付對不對 往下看但是呢 韓國的央行要啟動CPTC的零售交易他連零售交易都要做了 |
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有沒有他100萬韓元大概2萬多台幣他一個電子錢包的概念那請問央行目前有沒有推動類似的4點齁零售交易的一些支付方式有沒有南韓現在有4點嗎 |
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現在應該算是在試驗階段我們沒有嘛對不對那我們有沒有發展什麼我們現在試驗階段是先從數位券開始我們先不防CPTC我們有沒有類似的支付工具像TWQR有沒有 |
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來,那TWQR是什麼?來,董事長講一下TWQR是什麼?跟委員報告,TWQR就是台灣的QR Code,共同的標準好,那目前坊間是不是已經有民間自己的很多版本了?原來是有很多版本,但是現在大家要整合往同一個版本再推進但是它不會只在境內用嗎?我們看下一張,金總裁過來看民間電子業者插旗韓國、日本 |
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拓日報捷全支付全年的支付逼進韓國這是今天的新聞啊它說進日本跨境電資之後呢開通了這個全支付可以到韓國到日本都可以用 |
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董事長你們有沒有應對的對策跟委員報告我們在韓國在去年的1月就已經開通了所以TWQR也可以是好那是不是沒有輸給全資物我們走在前面往下看所以目前TWQR我們國人出國去日本韓國甚至新加坡都可以使用對不對未來可能新加坡也可以使用有沒有進度有沒有一定執行時間 |
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跟委員報告就是說目前到韓國日本都可以那今年呢我們希望日本能夠來台灣使用然後呢再接著推動新加坡也能來台灣使用所以你把我後面要講的也講了總是不能我們觀光客去人家消費我們可以用什麼TWQR人家觀光客來我們消費不能用 |
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TWQR吧我們有鼓勵他們用對不對更進一步的我們往下看我們看很多潛力TWQR的發展潛力海外旅遊大家想想看去年的出入境的旅客人士單單是來自於東南亞的國人出國就快三百萬他們來到台灣也超過將近一百七十萬大概有四百六十萬的規模那以國人來說現在國人出國第一位的是什麼去哪裡去日本 |
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那其次呢是新南向國家佔了快兩成中國韓國還沒那麼多可是相對的外國的旅客來台灣日本不是第一名喔香港韓國在後面第一名是什麼來自新南向的國家董事長知道了嗎知道這個情況嗎是的好那央行總裁要拜託您對董事長有所要求現在呢我們來看一下往下看現在就是說除了旅客之外另外境外工作者 |
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現在在台灣的境外工作者來自海外的工作者在台灣的有高達81萬對不對他們也會返鄉消費有沒有可能他們在台灣也弄了TWQR回去到那種國家不是只有台灣的官方可以使用啊他們這些人也可以當地使用有沒有可能 |
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跟委員報告就是說雙邊要有合作當然這個發展是有可能性的是所以說如果未來國人用TWQR可以到日本、韓國、新加坡使用他們這些國家來到台灣也可以使用那甚至到新南向國家台灣的官方也可以使用連他們的移工在地的家屬也可以因為他們在台灣辦了TWQR之後他們的家人在他們的當地也可以使用有沒有這樣的可能 |
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691.883 |
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總裁最後的結論,因為主席站起來了我的結論就是我的標題,剛剛不讓你看滾動式調整雅致中心的外匯法規,可以嗎?可以啊剛剛我們局長點頭了那TWQR跨國掃碼前進性南向請哲成林董事長財經公司繼續努力可不可以訂個時程表跟計畫給我 |
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693.575 |
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696.798 |
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好 可以啦那兩個都是給我一個13秒的進度計畫謝謝總裁 謝謝 |