| IVOD_ID |
159067 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159067 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T09:37:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T09:46:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770f7728897beebc0df32f58198bcf8270c1f83dc853112caf45b7349d8067d4e87d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:37:26 - 09:46:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長劉世芳、經濟部、交通部、金融監督管理委員會、台灣電力股份有限公司就「公寓大廈裝設電動車輛充電裝置之相關法令、國家標準、建築設計、管理維護、火災預防措施及相關保險類別與要保人之認定」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【本次會議若因當日加開院會而停開，不再另行通知】） |
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市長來市長有請市長我們今天這一個主題社區大樓設置充電設備我想先請問一下新的大樓如果108年之後新的大樓其實都有預留了充電樁的空間是都有了吧對 |
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所以好,那108年以前沒有嘛,對不對?所以其實這一個的複雜度應該是舊大樓的複雜度比較高吧?對!對不對?是不是?是!所以我們是不是要來處理這個?我們應該要先把它分成兩個區塊一個是舊大樓,一個是新大樓 |
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那你新大樓都有預留了那其實他所有的包括消防包括什麼的都符合現行的法律規定了吧 |
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有一些規範是我們是陸續公布所以我們會邀請新的大樓還是要加設一些相關的設施包括我們剛才在談的我們要去研擬相關的排煙的設備的裝置這個也是在實驗當中因為這個涉及到整體的科學的實驗的數據我們必須透過科學實驗數據結果來要求偵測不是 |
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我的意思不是這樣你它現在已經好的的都符合現行的法規你未來要再加強的是未來再蓋的新的大樓了吧對對不對應該是這樣講才清楚嘛是不是我說的這樣我們基本上未來的大樓一定會有新的標準要求 |
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那但是在那個舊大樓的部分我們就儘量依據它相關的狀態我們來做 不不不我們先說新大樓現在如果新的大樓都應該符合現行法規了吧對對不對那你剛說的什麼效法那個是未來我們要再要求它再新增的嘛對不對所以其實新的大樓就只要回歸管委會 |
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他同不同意設置而已其實連台電連什麼也都不需要去了吧 |
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台電是表後要處理那是表後處理了他不用再去裝新的那些偵測一些什麼新的那個電纜或不是電纜就是他已經就預留線在那邊了都好了對不對他只是申請啟用台電去用一下而已但是他只有預留管道相關的配線什麼是必須要到這還是要台電這邊來協助 |
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預留管道分兩種有的已經大樓人家那個他全部也都做好了他有的人家人家那個做得比較好的他也都送給你了這分兩種嘛對不對所以 |
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問題比較多的是在舊大樓吧對不對這個只有舊大樓所以我們要討論問題應該要先把它區分兩塊吧你如果混在一起討論的話我跟你講這個今年新交的大樓他們緊張得要命啊對不對新交的大樓應該 |
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我跟委包建新郊的大樓應該大部分是新的就按照108年的規定對啦所以我的意思是說我們要討論這個我們要講清楚啦不然我們在討論這邊我今年新郊的大樓這些工委會每個人都來找你來找我們了好不好了解 |
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對不對你這個要說清楚啊是不是對不對市長我們剛已經說明過了108年之後的都是按照新的規範對對這個要先說清楚我們再來討論哇不然這個你會引起所有全台灣的大樓的恐慌那回到我們要解決問題的舊的大樓了那舊的大樓其實現行的 |
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我們的法律規定其實只要管委會同意他是不是就可以去做了?舊的大樓要設置除了管委會同意之外我們還是要請那個電機機師或者是相關的電業他們去做電容的評估啦就是大家即使同意那也要回歸到他本身的電表的狀態 |
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你說的電表的狀態是那個後續我們先說 如果廣委會都同意你設置你就可以去進行後面的程序了吧 是不是所以問題的癥結 我們先把技術的排除問題的癥結 其實就是廣委會能不能同意你設置嘛 對不對 是不是這樣 |
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邏輯上是這樣邏輯上是這樣沒有錯啦好那再來內政部你能做的也是一個全國的法令的一個統一的規範對不對那你其他各縣市有沒有他們各縣市的公立大校管理條例的自治條例 |
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有沒有沒有目前沒有目前都是依據我們的規範去進行那未來會不會有你也不能說啊你也不知道有沒有啊現在就是就有關充電樁的設置現在有些縣市是用指引的方式啦它不是用這個法律條文去強制規範它是用指引對嘛我現在就是說其實各縣市 |
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也都有的人積極在推了是不是對不對那你在積極在推的時候很難講啊你未來他會不會有他自治條例這個很難講啊對不對所以我在這邊要說的就是一個我們知道問題在哪裡就是管委會嘛當管委會有很多問題啊我們有電動車的你叫我去負擔這也是我們最常聽到的吧 |
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對不對所以如何去處理到這個完善我覺得啦可能要及時廣益啦那也不可能說在兩三天之內就把它解決啦但是呢要及時廣益去處理這些問題啦包括所有的安全然後我住戶的權利或什麼的但你要知道 |
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工委會也是投票制啊對不對我相信你也不能說你們怎麼樣就怎麼樣啊我覺得這個是要互相尊重去處理的問題但就法律層面來講現在問題就是只有在這裡其他沒有問題吧 |
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現在就是管委會我們就是依據相關的條例去修正討論我們有廣深民意所以現階段為什麼我們講說三到六個月內我們會先將法令先做一些調整依據安全規範先做調整之後當然我們就要那個徵求公開相關的意見然後聽取地方各界的意見我們再來進行完整的修正這樣 |
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我覺得目前我個人認為就是說現在各縣市它有公布的公寓大廈增設電動汽車充電設施指引這個各縣市我們應該要先去看一下各縣市到底是不是都一樣各縣市是這樣 我認為啦你在都會區的跟你在比較不是都會區的各縣市我認為會不一樣 |
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對但是現在的相關的指引基本上我們剛剛有報告大概都是還是以六都為主啦或是主要的都會區對你其他的也不一定都是六都裡面都有一樣嗎基本上六都是不是都一樣 |
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現在目前來講像六都裡面就是台南跟台北那已經有先指引那台北當然會傾向慢慢把它法治化但是在這之前我們還是跟他開會的時候都有提醒到說其實安全的流程才是最重要的是啦 |
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署長你講這句話 不管管委會同不同意其實經費那些問題都可以解決啦你台電也可以拉特別的一條線什麼這些都可以解決啦大家最注意的就是安全啦因為電動車的如果起火什麼的這個不大一樣就是安全所以如何去解決這個 |
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廣委會就會比較容易同意了啦我覺得問題的癥結雖然是在廣委會但是安全這個只要你百分之百安全廣委會就會比較同意了對不對好啦 那你們再去研究看看啦好 謝謝我們一定會確保所有相關的安全的措施前提謝謝委員指教好 謝謝 |