| IVOD_ID |
159061 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159061 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T09:48:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T10:01:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770f91b9770e3b05dba9e83d902c8d6dd6c2f83dc853112caf458c87acda875fc8c05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:20 - 10:01:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍率所屬單位主管暨財金資訊股份有限公司董事長列席業務報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請我們的楊總裁來 楊總裁 |
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賴委員早早 辛苦了楊總裁謝謝那麼川普總統宣布4月2號要對等關稅對等關稅的意思就是你課我多少關稅我課你多少關稅我查了一下美國的產品到台灣的關稅是6.5% |
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台灣的關稅到美國那裡去是3.3%才一半啦剛剛好一半而已啦4月2號就要開始啦這樣一來會不會對我們這麼巨大的700多億的對美的一個順差有沒有影響 |
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我跟委員報告,我們的資料就是對等關稅這個全部的產品,我們台灣對美國的稅率全部平均,加權平均我們全部的話,我們是比他的關稅還低 |
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我們互的0.5%所以等於美國到台灣的產品值更低?對 全部 我們用全部 但是農產品好 那就以你的為主好不好因為我查的是另外的資料以你的資料 我們去美國是多少?幾%? |
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我們去美國是幾%?我們的產品去美國的關稅是幾%?我這邊的資料就是說是這樣啦我這個沒有明確的那個我只是差距啦我們用差距啦差距喔就是美國跟我們的水利的差距 |
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你查一下喔 你查一下喔我所知道的 你的可能有問題喔 我的才對喔不然的話我們的順差怎麼這麼大國中順差怎麼這麼大我們農產品的關稅差距就是說我們出口出去的跟我們進口 我們是比它高了5.3% |
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那個是農產品平均是我們是我們占它便宜的否則我們生產不會那麼大你想也知道嗎如果我們是買了1.5怎麼可能有這麼大 |
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主要是農產品但是輝農產品的部分我們是比他低 |
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那你講的是電子產品啊對 電子產品 因為我們的電子產品幾乎是零嘛我們的電子產品幾乎是零啊我們對那個農產品 我們是比他高我們去他那裡是零 他來我們這裡是零啊對啦 也沒有錯啊全世界電子產品幾乎都是零啊你總裁你查一下 查一下今天看到美國對於高磊對於加拿大 歐盟 |
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要課25%的關稅 生效樓 生效樓然後呢 加拿大歐盟也要對等課他280億美元的繁殖所以全球的關稅大戰已經開打了 對吧對吧 開打啦 歐盟已經開拋啦 一樣啊你25 我也25啊 老公也開拋啊那咱們大陸沒有啦 |
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那是台灣的 我們台灣的因為他沒有對我們害怕所以呢 報告委員我們第十三頁這邊也有談到啦也有談到就是說美國額外針對四項商品的加徵關稅 |
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那它對醫藥 醫藥品 半導體 特別是我們就是半導體嘛那還有鋼鐵 鋁銅 汽車零組件我們的十三頁這邊有談到就是說我們對它的曝險相較其他的國家來講 我們的曝險比較小 |
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所以美國還沒有對我們出手就對了還沒有特別是那個彈刀的問題我們能不能夠說我台積電投資你1000億美金加原來的650所以拜託你川普啊 |
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你可以看我給你這麼多錢是不是你就不要給我加關稅了可以嗎所以各個國家有沒有在談這個我就不曉得有沒有在談因為這個不是我們做在那裡的那個之前有沒有在談我不曉得但是委員講的也沒有錯就是說很多國家也是多是在講究某種產品是不是要關稅可以豁免要跟他協商 |
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我們去了一千億加元的六百五十億一千六百五十億美金沒有錯請問這一千億這個要去投資的事先你知不知道這個我不知道你都不知道我不知道這個錢從這裡你要這裡出去的它也有經過你 |
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因為包括委員要經過你咧對啦要經過你啊對不對對對對他會經過我外匯市場那這外匯市場我們會知道那外匯市場但是呢這個他的一千億呢也不會就是說是在一年之內就一千億不會四年啊他講四年啊他講四年啊很長的時間嘛四年啊很長的時間他講四年平均一年要出去四百億美金喔一年要四百億美金喔我跟委員報告 |
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我們這個問題我們也有跟他討論過基本上他認為說他這個錢不會從這邊套位你聽我講一下你是不是跟魏哲家默契當然不會魏哲家那麼忙我們的相對的對口我們會跟他 |
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你們派誰跟他談你們派誰跟他談我們外匯局的相關人員外匯局的局長是不是 舉手一下有沒有談 外匯局局長有沒有談有在外匯局局長有沒有談好 那我由他來好 外匯局局長有沒有跟他們談稍微跟你報告一下對啊 他們要匯錢匯這麼多出去要經過跟你們 |
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講一下啊包委員我們跟美方之間都有密切的在溝通啦不是啊你跟我們台方啦不是美方啦他這個錢總之你是出去的啊那台積電部分因為我們他們在大兒結會的部分金額比較大的部分好了你跟誰談啦台積電的誰談啦 |
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台積電的財務部門 財務部門 財務部門你不要鬧開 他財務長你不可以跟他談啦局長對財務長一三天啦對啊 那跟你談就衛生假啦衛生假你要對口啊 你要對總裁的表啊 |
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因為魏哲嘉他不會去了解這些資金的狀況還是他的財務長比較了解所以也就是說他去那邊投資那會影響到我請問你啊川普是不是希望美元弱勢是不是 |
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他希望能夠賣東西賣得好事實上他好像有這樣的一個傾向不過我跟委員報告就是說匯率也不是說有一個人他講的就算數匯率是由市場決定的 |
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你去年進場164億美元 台幣還是騙因為你就怕被列為匯率超重 |
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我們不會怕 我跟委員報告我們跟美國財政部的溝通良好我們隨時都在溝通所以這一點請委員放心 |
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可是現在是不是還是被列為觀察名單這個他最近據我了解他都四月中四月到四月中他會發布匯率報告所以四月台灣就被拿掉了是這樣子嗎 |
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因為我跟委員報告我們最起碼都會有兩項所以兩項就是觀察就是觀察了嘛所以你要拿掉很困難了啦因為如果說是兩項特別是兩項就沒辦法了啦三項就差這麼多 兩項就觀察格一項就觀察名單所以這樣4月還是觀察啊 |
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因為你還是要再操縱啊還是兩項啦你還是兩項嘛所以還是操縱啊沒有操縱啊沒有操縱啊那說一半還是被觀察的不是嗎觀察啦觀察啦來我們再看啦這個你剛才講CPI我現在關心的GDP今年台灣的GDP怎麼樣 |
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我跟委員報告基本上我們報告這邊也有談到我們第一個我們的組織總署現在是他把他revised down但是他現在還是3.14這個是3.14那第二個國際的機構國內國外的機構平均現在以平均來講的話是3.04 |
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不會再往下調不會再往下調這個就是說這個是目前的一個預測但是他會隨著新的一個制裁然後他才會川普的關稅政策是不是大犀牛是不是 |
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他是不是灰犀牛這個我目前我是不曉得不過我也可以跟委員報告他對市場的不確定性是提高了還沒有到灰犀牛程度應該是還沒有吧最後一個小問題也是很重的問題我問一個很笨的問題美國的國債這麼高佔GDP超過150%為什麼他不會倒 |
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你說他的那個債務戰GDP150%為什麼不會倒因為美國你想想看日本本身就是250%250%日本都沒有倒啦何況是美國美國的經濟體那麼大美元又是國際的主要的貨幣 |
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所以你就這樣回答所以你就說150%佔事實上先進國家債務佔GD的比重都很高這樣子台灣的20幾%你緊張什麼我們差不多30%左右而已會不會到時候如果他 |
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請問你這個我所查到資料對不對我們的外匯存底一半差不多一半是我有沒債應該是有啦會不會他現在這個舉債太多了臨時說這段時間我的利率 |
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我覺得這個機率不高啦因為這樣的話就相當於除非就是說他把他的利率是從現在的4點幾把它降到0除非這個機率啦不然的話他不能就是說美國財政不能說我現在只能給你0那這樣的話就是等於他保障 |
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如果說美國做這種動作的話我相信美元危機會美元危機謝謝我們賴昭偉 |