| IVOD_ID |
159058 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159058 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-13T09:45:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-13T09:53:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3b972b8f6f00770ff5dac34a09a9541e6b0a9b5bba3c53abbbf0a69acbcd9c1c975c7bd2c0b6c0015ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳永康 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:45:43 - 09:53:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長報告「國機國造交機進度及勇鷹高教機失事後檢修情況」，並備質詢。） |
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部長你好陳委員好剛才因為您已經回答了幾個委員提出的問題我先就這個部分就教於您跟這個飛安跟這個高教基沒有關係那麼第一個就是說您剛剛提到就是說如果陳峰指示我們也未來共同努力朝向國防預算到GDP3%這個目標共同努力那這裡面我提出兩個建議第一個就是 |
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您刚刚提的不对称作战在未来的趋势里面不对称作战一定有很多的无人艇无人机那么这种无人系统的第一个他的通讯频段一定要跟国防部现在通讯的系统做整合而不是商规均用如果将来 |
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local wifi或者訊息中斷那這種商規的無人機它的效率就不能發揮所以第一個就是說我們軍中控管的頻道要跟速發部要要求再撥額外的頻寬給我們用現有的頻寬去分配你分配到手的無人機實際上可啟飛運用的價值非常有限那這個是提出一個建議第二個就是因為無人系統了 |
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如果我们看俄乌战争它这种无人机是属于消耗型的在乌克兰广大的战场里面看到的不是乌军的设施就是俄国设施所以这种一次性消耗性的无人机它的授权它的战务令或者ROE是非常单纯的 |
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如果未来我们使用这种无人系统它的授权就涉及到战务令或交战规则或者武装冲突法这些东西我们希望未来在教学在课程部分尤其是国防大学将来不管陆海空运只参学院这个课程不是属于 |
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我们的管理学院的法律系了因为武装冲突法战俘公约甚至我们在海上执法无害通过我们跟海委会海巡署引用的条款都要相同一致这个就是说在预算增加 |
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采用了不对称作战下的无人系统以后第一个教育教材训练这个赶快要更新另外一个就是说授权而不是说通通到无人机操作手你就负这个责因此不管是这个配给这个营或者这个联兵旅他的旅长要确定目标目标更换 |
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這個不是AI可以決定所以人在指揮鏈路內是不能拿掉的這個我提出來給部長做一個建議是 謝謝委員知道我後面的問題屬於專業問題部長您請回我就跟空軍參謀長談一下這個我先請教一下這個目前的高教基 |
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我們現在是先訓教官再訓學人是那目前訓練合格的教官跟目前已經交的飛機他的 |
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座艙比大概是多少?跟委員報告是1比1.33這個數字是還不夠了還要努力了那麼達到了教官如果我們希望能夠到1.4甚至更好的話那教官複合變少教官還在訓還有班隊教官在訓一個是教官第二個就是說這些飛行員因為是出教機飛完由合格的教官帶他飛 |
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那麼它要飛到多少小時才能夠通過我們的認證那在這個過程中它的任務實際上對飛機來講是一個耗損很多的是屬於重落地那今天裡面提到了這個飛機的這個每小時的維保的成本我想請您這邊做點呼應高較機的維保成本在經過我們計算之後是每小時約莫17萬 |
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你這是消耗料配件整個的cycle跟油料費跟二代戰機比的話大概在一半左右另外一個就是因為這個飛機其實是國人大家共同支持的國機國造也希望當初做IDF的研發成果能夠持續下去當然現在裡面已經有很多的性能提升了這個部分我請中科院副院長您一起方便一下 |
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我们根据这个政府采购法就是第15条的这个第一款第三条里面因为有很多是伪制协议书研发的另外跟对外的那比方讲高教机是空军跟这个中科院签那么中科院再跟这个厂商再签如果厂商在履约过程中延迟交物是不是会这个罚折 |
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跟委員報告就是我們依照我們院裡面的設置條例還有我們的採購的規範的話確實我們在所有的合約裡面都有定有罰則但這個罰則的錢是廠商歸給中科院可是對空軍來講是不公平的因為你的基金進去了是我們也要有依照這個錢也會依照一定的程序包含了我們要上稅然後我們也要繳國庫有固定的比例 |
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對空軍這個高架機來講它是這個所謂採購協議書跟中科院中科院再跟廠商捐但是在海軍的這個就是海昌案那它是台船公司又下包給中科院所以在不同的專案中科院的角色往往不同我這邊提出一個建議就是將來開這個旅約督導會一定是軍種中科院跟廠商要同步到 |
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那国防部上面的监督单位也要一起参与就是四方重要的角色不然因为有的是协议书那他只能处分你的这个执行人而不能去这个罚折可是那你的回馈呢是你对厂商厂商罚的钱你缴国库可是并没有回到国防部里面也没有回到空军所以这个未来我们大家共同努力希望在这种采购法的全责规划之下 |
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對旅約督導能夠周延那麼這一次廠商的延遲交貨當然我們在空軍的角色看如果能夠維持座艙比跟訓員的那個滿足條件下那現階段是沒有問題可是將來這個66架F16V交機以後飛行員的數量又大幅增加因此在這個培訓的過程中間他必須要加快速度 |
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那加快速度的飞行时速那这个飞机来讲它的负荷就比较重没有经验的飞行员他落地都是重落地所以对起落架的耗损不是一般的这个问题我们希望中科院跟军总之间在这个地方 |
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不管是驗收履约督导或者是跟厂商责任归咎罚折东西有很多折中妥协但是是不是就是让步接收现况接收这个我尊重军总因为你要承担责任嘛那我今天的这个问题啊就提供这边啊给大家做个参考我们共同努力啊支持国防谢谢各位谢谢 |