| IVOD_ID |
158989 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158989 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第3次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第3次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-04T17:08:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-04T17:39:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:31:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/bbd912f2957afca8b71cb640e1b18e5c94dbecbd8929cd067d3a5479b693b0b6a54079fb70ee7d1b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐欣瑩 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:08:17 - 17:39:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第3次會議（事由：對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢） |
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謝謝韓院長,本席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢學員好院長好,辛苦了一整天首先本席要就我們春節之後 |
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我們各大醫院這個急診室的問題我相信也很多人有詢問那本席首先想知道是因為我們的總統本身是醫生那過去相信醫院的很多情況他也很了解那現在他身為我們中華民國的總統那我們急診室擁設的情況 |
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我相信您也了解不是一天兩天長期如此所以面對這次又再度引起等於是整個社會還有新聞這麼重大的關注本席想了解賴總統的態度如何當然也是非常的焦急跟委員報告從春節之後連假之後的第一天上班我們就跟衛友部要求說盡快將這個事情 |
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他後來後面的演變會是怎麼樣做清楚的預判跟社會做清楚的說明那衛部也說了但是情形沒有改善沒有徹底的改善因為有很多諸多的因素但這些因素我們只是分析不是拿來做理由的那現在我們已經有幾個方式就是希望他第一個院內調控病房調控第二個區域聯防 |
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分流轉整第三個當然是比較中長期就是護理人員人力的增加等等這個已經在做那在這個過程當中總統幾次也當面的詢問我也當面的詢問這個邱部長是在健康台灣的會議當中也把它列為一個重要的議題請部長在座說明也做了準備那我現在跟 |
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知道衛福部已經每天會公布所有醫院它的空床的狀況希望它能夠給民眾一個直接的資訊讓大家知道說當我有需要的時候我是不是有可能自己知道我該到哪裡去如果你是坐救護車當然我們的系統是有了如果你自己要去一個急診的話你可以往那些比較沒有那麼慵懒的地方去讓我們這個資訊要公開要正確要及時這個衛福部都有在做 |
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謝謝院長我想您大概回答了很多位委員所以這一題您非常的熟悉但是本席要請教的是因為這個問題應該它也是長期下來院長剛剛這樣講包括您所講的本席也有看到邱部長在過去開了兩次的記者會裡面都有提到所以我們要問的是我們的目標 |
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就是說國外有關急診室譬如說英國、紐西蘭、加拿大、澳洲他們有定一個目標就是我們各大醫院急診室我們目標是4小時停留、滯留是4小時當然台灣現在我相信所有委員的了解我們民眾常常跟我們反映48小時到72小時的都有 |
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所以我們今天先就剛剛院長所說的我們現在希望說強化院內的病床調度機制過去難道沒有調度嗎你現在要強化你的部長也有講急診醫學會也說你要有蘿蔔跟棍子你的規範或是你的驅動力是什麼請部長 |
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好 謝謝 謝委員的關心剛剛院長已經整體的回覆過了那要補充一下剛剛提的急診醫學會的意見當然我們有開了三次的麻煩您就我說的那你現在各大醫學中心或是各大醫院它院內的調度機制如何比過去更好那你們具體的 |
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現在發生了,那我怎麼樣未來可以更好?衛福部有什麼具體的措施跟各大醫院做好這種溝通?我們現在研究蘿蔔就是如果有急診住院上去的健保這個會加成這就是蘿蔔那棍子的話我們當然會monitor如果有急診住院上去的,住院的幾戶 |
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要把它提高所以讓他們的急診病房開更多醫院就比較有資源來更容易來調動那當然我們會要求那個如果比較輕症的不用急著開刀的就讓急診先住院這個也是一種 |
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也監測 當然各個醫院我們尊重每一個醫院的不同的文化以及它的嚴重度譬如說幾個例子 台大醫院他們都反映說我的門診的病人嚴重度都很高因為幾乎都是已經各個地方治療到相當的嚴重才到門診 才到台大醫院來他們要降低門診的住院難度會比較高像有的 |
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醫院他們就處理得成績相當的不錯所以這個也要給他們遵照他們的文化盡量來輔導來監測但是本席希望就是說因為輔導它還是一個口述那可能下一次再質詢的時候再過半年又發生這樣的事所以我們希望是能夠持續改進 |
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就本席看到一些過去的資料顯示好像台中榮總曾經他們的這種實施是從全國最庸塞的急診室結果變成他們整個的急診他們調度還有說急診流治率變得最低 |
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所以這一塊也許可以借進那接著本席也要再請教就是說剛剛有提到區域聯防的機制區域的這個指揮調度那這個在過去好像不太行得通會不會那未來我們衛福部到底什麼具體的措施是可以的不然的話我們看到的這個好像都是宣示性的可是實質上怎麼改進 |
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是的我們第一個我們會要求各縣市的衛生局加強區域由各縣市衛生局來調組基本上是他們要負責這整個協調縣內的一個縣市內的一個 |
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醫療人力的支援第二個以前其實當然上上下下的專診都有在做但是我們希望更加的落實尤其區域醫院的一個空床跟留置率要低這塊應該要有棍子吧或者是這個在醫院的評鑑裡面你們是不是也要納入這是一個醫學中心應有的責任在醫學中心的六大任務評鑑裡面也會包括在裡面 |
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我們現在的想法就是我希望每個區的醫學中心為主我們的部立醫院要全部納進去由醫學中心來做主那整個統合起來大家做一個聯防要是醫學中心做不好這個事情要是醫學中心做不好這個事情我們將來評鑑的時候會針對這個重點讓他因為這樣子而必須等級的調整都應該要做到這樣才是說的一個棍子 |
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好謝謝我們真的很希望能夠來落實那第三個就是我們大家都知道急診的醫護人力所以可能要有蘿蔔那我也看到這個邱部長在昨天的記者會有特別講兩大中長城的改革作為那為什麼是中長城他們現在醫護人力已經很缺了 |
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有關這個蘿蔔而且我看到114年也編列了那這為什麼列為中長程不是進程就可以開始實施其實第一個短程就是馬上要處理麻煩您檢答馬上relieve這個急診的壓力第二個當然這個其實都一直在進行比如說我們提出了一個護理人力增加的一個10號策略那從去年其實一直在做那我們在12月 |
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到去年的時候其實有增加了三千九八百位八百多位的一個護理人員其中有一千兩百位是在醫院當然在醫院裡面怎麼樣來加強他們願意在急重症的病房來工作因為的確是比較辛苦所以我們在健保署 |
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也有開會也會投注了30億部長我是請教就是說這應該是進程為什麼是列為中長程就是一直要做下去所以進程也會開始嘛進程現在就在做了那最後就是請教院長所以我們國外他們有一個目標是4小時但我們台灣現在要開始做的話是不是也應該訂個目標也就是說我們急診室 |
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台灣的急診室是不是可以比如說20個小時內因為現在都要48小時甚至其實我們很多的鄉親長輩72小時就是三天四天都還沒有還在急診室的大有人在所以北溪在這邊想請教院長那您覺得呢現在我們台灣碰到這樣的情況我們要不要訂個比如說可以先訂個進城的然後接著中長城我們達到多少 |
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確實如委員所說的 我還看過 |
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孩子掛下來說等床時間還有更長的還有更長的那不是現在是之前幾年前就看到這個狀況但是一直沒有辦法解決這個問題因為我們完全沒有辦法落實這個轉診的制度這是一個也是因素之一其實轉診也跟這個區域調度各方面都有關那我要請部長研究一下合理的一個時間是多長我們很難馬上達到但是定下來之後我們用什麼配套來讓他能夠 |
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逐漸的接近這樣的理想的目標請問院長多久可以恢復 |
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我跟委員報告一下不好意思我沒有時間了是不是一個月還兩個月後可以等於你們應該去我們現在有超過24小時醫院就會通報嘛每個醫院有每個醫院的所以我們想知道現在目標設定我們可以分遠程中程遠程我不敢講那個是幾%進程48小時兩天內可以嗎 |
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幾乎全部兩天內來收進去的機會可以努力好 我們朝這個目標好不好好 謝謝我們這一題就到這好 謝謝接著本席想請教院長院長你應該知道我們台灣的詐騙真的是眾所皆知而且民眾苦不堪言 |
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那想請教院長您知道去年2024年整年度的詐騙案件數是多少 |
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對 我們表格弄出來了因為我們去年九月有一個統計數字的改變所以會增加很多好 增加很多所以我們現在秀出這個表格最重要本席想要說的當然在打炸四法通過之後本席也相信這個是全國 |
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不分朝野包含不管是政府民眾大家都希望台灣的這種詐騙的情況可以越來越少而不是越來越多那我們在數據裡面看到這真的是很可怕我們的這個2024年比2023年呢增加了324.68% |
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等於從37,823件提高到122,805件那我們的詐騙金額從89.44億提高到502.58億所以這種情況我們希望 |
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一定要這個緩下來再來本席也特別看了一下國外新加坡他們詐騙案件數也是增加但是他們增加的幅度沒那麼多澳洲就很了不起澳洲它逐漸衰減表示他們打詐成功所以首先本席要請院長是不是可以 |
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率領我們整個的這個打詐的團隊真的要借鏡一下國外有一些好的做法包含我們國內是不是有一些法令它還不夠完備然後有什麼樣的做法才能夠讓我們的這個詐騙不是哇這個叫做惡化速度很快它不是持平它是惡化速度很快其實我們是希望減少所以這一塊應該院長你應該認同吧是 |
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謝謝委員因為立法院也通過了打詐釋法但釋法之後我們還有很多要繼續進行的配套的措施要把它完全的完成這是一個再來我剛剛說過我們去年九月啊我們把統計數字改變了所以數字增加很多但這個數字並不是真正的最後的受騙的數字而是一種報案的數字這個請部長您再說我們後來改成人次嘛對不對 受害人人數 |
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但其實人數也是不少從6萬人成長到13.2萬所以人數也是兩倍但是最重要本席現在請教院長如果您被詐騙了您是希望犯人被抓到還是希望錢能夠拿回來都希望那如果二則一呢先完成哪一個您都希望那你覺得民眾呢如果二則一民眾最希望的是哪一個 |
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犯人被抓到是他不會去騙其他的人錢拿回來是好像我沒有被騙所以兩個都還是希望那普遍民眾這個比較希望什麼錢一定要想辦法取回來對嘛錢一定要想辦法拿回來嘛那所以呢我們想請教這個 |
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院長您知道嗎現在詐騙會這麼多很多都是用科技嘛那詐騙的這種情況呢讓我們的民眾大家苦不堪言那本席也接觸很多我相信這個各級民意代表都是很多鄉親受騙那我聽過一個案件就是這個詐騙然後去報案的時候 |
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警員第一個跟他被詐騙的家屬就說你千萬不要責備他因為他怕他輕生就是很多民眾他被詐騙他是很痛苦的警員會這樣說我想請教我們有沒有統計數字我們台灣民眾被詐騙這麼多因為這樣輕生的有多少有沒有這個數字 |
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時間暫停一下 學員我建議問哪一個部長直接問因為這麼多部長在 畫面不好看 |
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謝謝院長 |
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剛剛的數字是不是對 有沒有這個數字沒有統計嘛 對不對沒有特別統計所以我們希望要重視因為很多民眾因為這樣真的苦不堪言 親生的很多不然第一線的員警不會這樣子來特別的跟他的家屬講因為有的被詐騙的他可能還有另外要嘛是另一半要嘛有的是年輕人被詐騙 父母來嘛所以他們就講你千萬不要責備他 |
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好 那接著本席就想請教院長如果 |
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我們要幫助民眾能夠討回受騙金額是否第一步要凍結金流院長認同嗎認同嗎 是那為了凍結金流警方收到民眾報案後是不是應該馬上通報銀行設置警示帳戶我們本來就有警示帳戶本來就有嘛就本席了解現在警察規定30分鐘內通報金融機構這沒有錯嘛 |
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那金融機構收到警方通報後警示帳戶設定完成那卻沒有警示帳戶設定完成那我們設定警示帳戶是在跟詐騙集團搶時間那我們民眾報案到銀行完成設定警示帳戶的時間有沒有統計 |
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跟委員報告一下去年我們在管制異常的帳戶有4.2萬戶因為這樣的關係攔阻的金額台幣大概是7.4億元部長我的時間快沒了就是我是在問說我們要求警察30分鐘內設定要通報金融機構但是你有沒有記錄他設定警示帳戶的時間也就是說我通報但是他多久設定 |
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沒有這點拜託一定要盡管而且我們要知道我們要讓院長院長您知道新加坡英國澳洲他們從報案到凍結帳戶平均花多少時間 |
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我們是說三十分鐘內一定要通報但通報了它不等於凍結這個我們要求要落實我們台灣有沒有要求要多久我們現在有一個要求請你直接說有沒有要求多久要所以我們現在銀行一定說它的系統一定會盡快地做一個凍結但是我們很多的詐騙型態等它發現的時候已經經過一段時間了 |
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那不是說立刻發現他就立刻凍結他是比如說像我們很多不是不是所以可是今天你發現了那是這個詐騙的帳戶你應該要把它凍結吧對就是我們收到這個警示帳戶銀行會立刻處理的 |
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銀行立刻處理是有沒有限定多久以內國外是24小時因為你們如果沒有統計你就不知道很可能他也很久沒有像我們就知道有的就很久啊所以這一塊可不可以改進我們一定是用最及時的方式我回去了解再跟委員報告好那事後能夠給我們一個回應那我們希望越快越好我也感受到卓院長也希望越快越好那 |
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我們的打炸中心有沒有銀行人員直接進駐目前有沒有 沒有吧我們是用通知的方式但是我們在165的專案裡面有郵政系統的人進駐 |
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只有郵政系統的人因為他要回答所有的很多不同的方案那裡面郵政系統是大概是這次打詐裡面的受害戶最多的好我們看到新加坡新加坡他詐騙返還民眾的金額 |
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從2023年的大概台幣25億多到2024年到44億增加了將近兩倍所以做法很重要所以我們希望台灣能夠也讓就是要去研擬 |
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因為人家都在同一個地方他馬上有金融中心的人在此他直接就是他在現場跟打炸的在同一個辦公室那他可以直接打回去跟他的這個相關的人我們可以馬上來進行 |
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所以這個部分凍結賬戶之外就是銀行人員直接進駐打詐指揮中心這塊我們也希望可以大家結合在一起這樣子錢才有辦法還回來的越來越多而且能夠及時的來制止 |
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及時的來制止那再來就是我們剛剛看到澳洲的詐騙數越來越減少那有一點我們也希望台灣可以借鏡的就是他的監管偵測到加密詐騙網站到觀戰他最快一小時就可以觀戰那我們的這個台灣有根據詐欺犯罪危害防治條例防止民眾 |
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接觸詐欺網站、目的事業主管機關以及司法警察機關多久時間內可以關站?有沒有規定?速發部跟很多平台業者都有進行相當多的要求但是有沒有規定多久要關站?他們國外就是一小時內就把你關站 |
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我們可能要經過一個合理的時間我不敢說一個小時但它現在不法的廣告下架的數量已經呈現了相當大的一個數字所以我們現在動作必須講真的太慢了因為世界各國他們都知道你這個到現在我們沒有規範沒有規範就沒有行動力所以這個部分可不可以請院長這裡真的領導一下那要請大家能夠這個要當一回事 |
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我們很多就是一直還沒有規範所以整個這個戰力這也是剛剛我謝謝委員說我們打仗事法之後還有很多其他的相關配套執法完成之後我們就可以更有力道去要求這些平台業者來跟我們做配合我這以前是很困難的 |
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本席接著最後針對這個打炸的部分要請教院長您是否認同我們這個相關單位我們的行政單位應該要 |
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研究 特別我們法務部是不是應該要研究如何討回民眾受騙金額以及研擬相關的法案應該要盡速的來完成這個在上一次的打詐的討論會議當中我特別提到要加速簡化這個過程但是事實上是難的因為很多打詐的金額他就已經是到境外了或者怎麼樣本席指的是相關的法案是不是該完備我剛剛是特別有請部長來研究 |
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我是請教院長而已您是否認同要研擬相關法案要盡快的提出具體改善方案當然我們已經在朝這個方向做好 OK那如果是這樣我們希望盡快的朝這個方向希望能夠盡快有一些很具體的一些做法然後大家我們大家一起來努力因為民眾真的太辛苦了好 謝謝那接下來本席要請教院長請教院長 |
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院長您應該知道台灣現在少子化問題很嚴重那孩子少既然都生得少我們是不是要給他最優質的教育 |
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當然嘛那十二年國教也是我們國家我們的政府對青年學子最基本的照顧但是院長是否知道新竹縣的家長以及學子長期的對於這種高中的班級數校舍不足 |
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非常非常的焦慮 院長知道很感謝院長這樣的關心那所以本席也多次的反映也陪同我們的縣長和教育局長為這件事跟中央各部會在溝通包含我本席也去行政院好幾次所以在這個縣政府整個 |
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所提的解決方案非常的明確就是整個的增班跟增校需要35億那增班33班要需要1000多個招生名額在過去數次的會議中中央相關單位也都同意那當然這個很感謝院長還有我們行政院的秘書長都承諾全力的協助希望以專簽來補助 |
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所以教育應該是不分藍綠我想院長也認同孩子的教育不能等所以本席想要為新竹縣的家長學生向院長來請命能不能 |
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加強加速來協助這個基本的國民的12年的基本教育但是現在班級數還有校舍不足的部分可以來增加經費的補助嗎是的新竹縣市快速遷入很多年輕的夫妻他們這個生產小孩之後現在已經都到了大概要進去高中的時候所以我第一次聽到說新竹縣市的這個高中要增班 |
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我還覺得說為什麼舉一波但現在我完全了解而且教育部也有一套他們現在在準備因應的方式 |
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所以本席就很簡單的因為時間的關係請院長是不是可以承諾全力的來協助我們已經在做 下一步已經在做我們具體的方式應該跟委員 沒關係具體的方式可以我們會後了解最重要是委員要告訴那些家長說我們有在做這個事情幾年的時間我們會把它徵效 |
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因為馬上就面臨不足,所以我們現在急著蓋學校,所以這個部分也要請院長這裡全力,還有部長這裡,全力來協助我們現在初步就是立即對現有的這八所的高中,馬上給予增班上的協助 |
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那設校呢?徵校徵校這個部分因為昨天用地上的一個另外還有一個當時也大概地方也期待說能夠有這一個類似這一個新竹這個竹科這個時鐘這個部分呢我想也都國科也都在評估這個會後我們了解因為本席今天這個部分最主要是向院長來請命那希望全力的來協助 |
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我們全力來推動這個事情 先增班再想辦法來徵效徵效已經迫不及待了 這個要請中央全力的來協助最後本席也要請教卓院長AI時代已經來臨 我們的政府是否做好準備了 |
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我們現在很重要的是高科技的人你覺得有沒有做好準備還沒有完全準備還沒有對 院長您上任的時候提出行動創新AI內閣你應該還記得吧這個AI就是行動創新的意思對 但是你用了AI是當然我們也看到很多這個您也特別指示要發展AI產業是所以那您知道要發展AI最重要的條件是什麼 |
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我們要有相當訓練多的人才有了人才還沒有AI人才之後我們要進到一個有AI的環境裡面我們要設備要配合上來AI的設備他最大的條件是什麼他必須要有一些就是包括 |
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更高端的電腦的設備還有這個資料中心電腦跟資料中心但是他完全架構在要有充足的電力這點院長您知道嗎而且他需要的電力不是像我們現在這個google查詢你用AI查詢跟google查詢差幾倍您知道嗎用電量 |
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10倍然後再來用AI產生一個圖像那跟我們用平常我們這樣繪圖軟體產生的圖像它的差異是多它需要就一個AI的圖像它需要的電量耗電量可以說是將近1000支智慧手機的充電 |
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1814.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
所以本席在這裡剩下最後很少的時間本席要提醒的是我們未來馬上面臨因為AI時代已經來臨了現在大家很多電腦手機都AI然後很多的產業他也在考慮要不要來台灣所以我們的供電政策那會是取決我們能不能進入AI時代很大很大一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1815.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1840.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
所以院長你一定要切記我們沒有電我們就沒有AI台灣就遠遠落後現在世界各國為了AI需要用大量的電AI它最大的特色就是它很耗電所以我們的供電政策有沒有考慮雖然台電經濟部一再反覆的計算我們到2030、2033我們能夠提供出來的新的電力 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1843.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1870.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
是足以來應付整個AI的一個成長的但是就算如此我們還是不放棄開發所有新的能源甚至我們對任何能源的新技術我們會積極主動的去學習我也希望我們有新的策略就是先好 謝謝許信義委員的資訊也謝謝卓院長 各部會首長的備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1872.401 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1875.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
委員會 我們本日排定的諮詢的委員均已諮詢完畢 |