| IVOD_ID |
158911 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158911 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
27 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第27次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-16T11:22:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-16T11:37:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e6909b4ca57c0612b31debff664fb48829ae781c7e1649b47f84d4c48a885b850ecafa458f489ced5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:22:55 - 11:37:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第27次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家安全局局長、國防部部長、大陸委員會、國家通訊傳播委員會、交通部、經濟部、數位發展部、海洋委員會海巡署報告「針對海底電纜係國家對外重要通訊手段，為避免中共利用各種灰色地帶手段測試我國網路及電網韌性情事發生，如何建立有效備援系統以支援軍事作戰並支撐基礎建設防護韌性」，並備質詢。） |
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來請中華電信總經理還有國安局局長以及我們海巡署我先把一個時間序列問一下海底電纜是中華電信負責的嗎你們在有人把它拖斷了破壞了你們會多久的時間知道 |
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報告委員第一時間就會知道因為我們有監視的系統就第一時間那個流量出問題就知道了嘛知道之後你們的標準作業下一個動作是什麼基本上有兩個面向一個面向是因為國際海膽一斷是影響非常大所以我們第一個一定優先處理客戶的訊物希望把他的損害降到最低你們第一時間知道能不能瞭解是什麼原因斷掉可能不知道就只知道斷了斷的位置知不知道 |
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要用設備去打光然後判斷大概要幾分鐘的時間幾分鐘就可以知道斷在哪裡是的所以你們第一個動作是維持客戶的運作要趕快先恢復我們台灣對外聯的海底電纜幾條十條對國際的部分有七條七條那還有備用的離島有十條十條然後備用的 |
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呃 離島就是10條 但是我們有像微波跟衛星的多元那是備援 備援是另外一件事情喔 低軌道衛星那什麼的所以我們國際通用是7條 是然後我們離島相關的是10條 10條 對所以 這每一條如果斷了你們都能夠在數分鐘之內知道斷在哪裡 |
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是的 第一時間斷我們的系統 我們兩邊系統馬上就知道斷但是要判斷地方要時間那判斷地方你們會同時啟動嗎還是會把客戶服務完再回來看斷在哪裡應該是雙管齊下所以理論上有個地方斷了你們大概五分鐘吧 幾分鐘內就會知道斷在哪裡嗎大概知道那接下來動作是什麼我們也會通報那個相關單位例如現在有所謂的重大事故的一個通報的辦法 |
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我正要問的是 多久會到海巡署 |
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應該這樣講在過去我們的SOP是除了剛才處理之外通報到速發部的那個網站裡面那這個呢事實上是30家網站那這是標準程序但是如果是重大我們當然也會用電話溝通等等那這個是標準程序以後另外第二個國土辦在去年也有國土安全的單所以我們同時也會通報那 |
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海巡坦白說以前因為這個是比較沒有啦但是經過這一次之後我們以後也會同時好我現在再回到前一動你知道斷在哪裡了你有一個單子要通知國土辦你是第一張單子通知他說斷訊了某一條電纜斷了那接下來幾分鐘後知道他斷在哪裡還要不要再通報一次 |
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呃一般是會的還是會我不要提一般有還是沒有呃我們會續報所以一般來講大概兩個小時內我們會再兩個小時啊這是沒有我講的是標準程序啦沒有我們知道這種麻煩高我聽起來都不標準我我現在讓為什麼讓國安局長跟校長坐在這邊呢每一個動作 |
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都要有意義沒有意義的刪掉浪費文書作業你斷訊了讓客戶備員可以運作這是對的但同步有關安全的我第一張單子應該告訴哪個單位告訴他說某一條比如說T1C1電纜斷了 |
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第二章馬上知道第一秒要告訴他斷在什麼位置那我就下面的SOP也許放在國土辦通知海軍通知海巡否則你這一邊就是我在兩小時內要通報你知道疑犯都跑多遠了所以這沒有標準作業嘛局長我問這你懂意思嗎所以這一次我完全沒辦法去指責或認為海巡署快或慢因為以往海巡署根本沒有在通報對象我這樣講對還是錯 |
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有 會通報 但是時間沒有要求那是間接 間接 間接了啦你們沒有通報你們的通報對象沒有海巡署啊我們會通報 但是沒有標準就沒有規定一定要多久所以沒有規定要多久我們這邊有一大堆國軍將領喔抱歉沒有 下面有國軍將領聽到這個 你都不知道這樣該怎麼打 |
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那就是有通報也可以慢慢通報也可以快快通報也可以或者沒有通報也可以啊委員我剛剛提到國土辦有一個國土辦的事件單那個事實上是我們同時發出去那事件單有沒有要求比如說我現在一旦知道哪個點斷在比如說那個坐標幾度的時候就要立即通報還是要等我忙完這些其他事情我再來通報 |
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我們同時在裡面另外還有一個JOKER我們也同時通報那剛才跟委員報告我因為量有時候要一點時間所以大概會譬如說25分鐘你剛才講幾分鐘現在變25分鐘了不一定因為有時候很難你打光怕過去回來要測那個距離嗎對要測距離而且要判斷 |
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而且要越精準的話到底要多久有時候我說15分鐘25分鐘差不多啦你知道我從剛才問到現在你的答案就已經不一樣了我比較為難你這事件是已發生的已知事件如果到現在我還沒有辦法得到標準答案我怎麼希望你下一次能夠有改善呢了解 |
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所以這個應該是跨部位我不是指的中華電因為你不負責安全這一塊但現在應該要納入了美國對這個國土這個他們的他們的國土安全署他們在管這個事情的時候有哪些要列管標準作業程序所以我們回到國安局來請局長我剛才問這一趴你就知道問題在哪裡了第一個沒有標準作業程序第二個該通報誰該怎麼處理海底電纜在海底 |
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我不通知海軍我也要通知海巡要不然誰去看漁船嗎馬祖跟我們斷聯了我難道不應該通知因為馬祖是我們管制區難道不應該通知國防部嗎所以這個標準作業程序沒有發生事情我回過頭問馬祖斷了你國防部怎麼反應那麼慢我能指責他嗎因為第一個時間斷聯的人知道的是掌控這七條國際十條國內的中華電信他的通報你應該聽到現在 |
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我同意委員的觀點啦也就是說就中華電信來講他畢竟是一個電信服務商啦那他比較關注的是在於電信服務的維持所以這一套建構的系統我覺得國安局對就我們國安單位來講確實像委員講的只要在通報過程當中讓我們的國安單位包括行政院國土辦可以第一時間掌握資訊的話那再傳到國防部海局局對還有國安局這邊我們才可以做必要的即時應出因為我剛才擔心什麼局長如果有一天 |
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如果有一天這17條同一個時間斷了,他們怎麼辦?對,而且甚至不是只有海瀾,就官局的角度來講海瀾假如出問題,資訊到我們這邊,我們除了了解海瀾的狀況之外我們必須要判斷,同時中共的資安供給是不是有升高或是周邊的海事活動有沒有升高,這部分是我們的關注你繼續聽一下,中華電信我再問下一個問題這17條 |
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這績效如果同時斷了你們有沒有能力應變能力怎麼處理剛才跟委員報告以國內來講我們除了10條海欄之外我們還有微波備援我們還有衛星備援我們會啟動備援但它傳遞的那個頻寬數量差很多啦我現在是告訴你比方說你現在中華電信傳說會多今天才17條都回去了你知道 |
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那個就很像人為的嘛同時17條斷掉你評估你們現在應變能力有沒有這個我們內部做過評估也演練事實上如果是這樣這麼的話一定是是一個很辛苦的過程中華電信目前是沒有面對如果同時大量不要說17條斷了10條8條6條你們可能會有一陣混亂是委員跟您報告 |
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對這個事情齁 在以去年來講國土辦就辦過兩次的演練演習辦過兩次 我講中華部分還辦過兩次的安全檢查事實上這個過程裡面就是在模擬剛剛委員所講的事情你那個模擬資料如果不涉機密的話我要求我們委員會要看一下你們的提向 SOP什麼的涉及機密我尊重 我們可以機密報告因為這個東西它正在發生 |
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我們目前的應變的標準作業程序是不足的也許中華電信目前你有擁有的capacity你的擁有的能力也不足的這個要檢視國會要監督這一塊我相信國安會也應該要去監督這一塊那你這個我請教海軍署副署長 |
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這一次的事件你們多久接到通知從斷掉中華電信斷連時間已經出來了嘛它斷掉到你們接到通知多久?各位公民報告1月3號7 12點40分接到中華電信通報通報內容是7點45分野柳東北方11點3海浬發生斷纜所以已經將近5個小時我們接到通報之後我們要回放雷達航機要研判哪些可遇船舶然後鎖定一艘船舶之後我們馬上派艇過去所以我請教副署長 |
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10分鐘之內告訴你跟5個小時以後告訴你你們處理會不會有所不同這個上司破案第一先機後續會很辛苦因為你只能靠航機好像是那一艘他走得很奇怪他就跟你講我的車業壞掉了所以在那邊亂繞我們是派艇全速去攔查5個小時你們在算幾節的你不如派我們戰鬥機去飛還比較快我的意思是說你現在看到7點45段 |
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12點40分海巡才接到通知這要命案的話血都乾了所以這有問題啊跟委員報告我們在1月6號海外會召開跨部會會議其中通報機制包括政府整個通報機制當初陳委員剛剛講的連國防部也沒有通報所以我們現在要把他沒有收到通報是我們現在包括跟國防部開會我們第一時間接到通報天性通報我們在 |
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我們有一些對離島的台底電纜是國防部有在用的它沒有被通報它連敵人在哪裡都不知道可是你看有沒有聽清楚其實中華電信有能力我就抓寬一點有能力在25分鐘之內知道大概是哪個位置斷結果你是5個小時以後才知道 |
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這一定要改進啦 這不改進怎麼行呢那我再請教你 我如果25分鐘之內告訴你你的船開過去 當然你們現在沒有空中兵力嘛那這是屬於警察業務 也就是海巡的業務我們也不適合動用國軍的兵力所以我這邊具體建議美國的海巡有空中的能量日本的海巡也有空中的能量 |
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我們台灣的海巡目前是沒有空中的能量以海巡署副署長的身份我請教你你認為台灣現在因應灰色地帶衝突越來越多灰色地帶衝突就是介於軍跟民之間所以我們常常是海巡署做前面海軍做後盾可是你們現在不管是抽砂船或者是大量的水上民兵的漁船的環繞或者像這種脫斷海底電纜掛第三國的權益輪你們的船艦 |
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過去事實上時間會相當長哪怕你全速30節在開都要相當長你認為海巡署該不該建置空中兵力空中能量當然會徵收能力當然比艦艇快又廣那我們現在就是我們想方設法在提升海巡的包括水面跟空中能量所以現在逐步推動無人機那依照我們的政策行政院政策我們先推動無人機我們不斷的在引進新的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
741.657 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
763.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
而且無人機不是所有事情的答案我最後一句話問蔡局長這問題我私下問過某些律師我們就算在公海攔到現行犯在公海攔到可疑的犯嫌我們能執法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
764.92 |
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791.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
涉及到一些溝通聯繫的過程因為我現在在公海上我懷疑這艘輪破壞我們海底電纜然後他拼命跑我們的海巡或者我們海軍能夠在公法執行嗎對管轄權有點疑義管轄權會有問題所以我們今天講了那麼多確定了疑犯確定了破壞位置確定了犯刑地點如果在公海怎麼辦現在沒有答案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
793.112 |
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802.837 |
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對不對他在公海進行這種類似切斷或者類似灰色地帶甚至類似侵略的行為我們現在在公海上執法的法律依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
804.653 |
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831.03 |
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對 有點問題那可能要由那艘船的傳奇國來進行相關的司法偵查柯麥隆哪會理你啊對啊 法律上是這樣然後你要等他跑到哪個港口看那個港口的國家要不要處理這就慢了嘛所以這一塊法律上執法的部分可能要跟友盟溝通這一塊其實才是大問題縱使我們提升了空中能量我們提升了警告的SOP我們第一時間反應第一時間就掌握到哪一艘船做的壞事在公海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
832.52 |
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848.454 |
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你根本什麼都不能做那怎麼辦這個題目問號我留給國安局我希望下一次我從這邊得到答案好不好好謝謝謝謝王地理委員局長請回接下來我們請洪孟凱委員上台質詢 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:08.691000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:12.712000+08:00 |
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請中華電信總經理，還有國安局局長以及我們海巡署。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:12.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:22.214000+08:00 |
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王委員早。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:22.214000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:27.095000+08:00 |
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我先把一個時間序列問一下，海底電纜是中華電信負責的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:29.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:34.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
好，有人把它拖斷了、破壞了，你們會在多久的時間知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:36.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:39.199000+08:00 |
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報告委員，第一時間就會知道，因為我們有監視的系統。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:39.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:41.199000+08:00 |
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好，就第一時間流量出問題就知道了嘛！ |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:41.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:42.199000+08:00 |
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是，沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:41.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:44.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
知道之後你們的標準作業下一個動作是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:44.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:49.441000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
基本上有兩個面向，一個面向是因為國際海纜一斷是影響非常大。當然。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:50.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:56.802000+08:00 |
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所以我們第一個一定優先處理客戶的訊務，希望把它的損害降到最低。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:56.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-16T11:23:59.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
你們第一時間知道，能不能了解是什麼原因斷掉？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2025-01-16T11:23:59.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:00.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
可能不知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:00.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:01.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
沒有辦法。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:00.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:02.683000+08:00 |
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就只知道斷了，斷的位置知不知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:03.423000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:08.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
要用設備去打光，然後判斷，大概要幾分鐘的時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:08.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:09.649000+08:00 |
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幾分鐘就會知道斷在哪裡？是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:10.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:12.271000+08:00 |
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所以你們第一個動作是維持客戶的運作。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:12.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:13.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
要趕快先恢復。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:13.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:17.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
我們臺灣外聯的海底電纜幾條？10條？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:17.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:19.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
對國際的部分有7條，還有…… |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:19.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:20.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
7條，離島…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:20.278000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:20.898000+08:00 |
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離島有10條。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:20.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:21.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
10條，然後備用的？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:26.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:29.805000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
離島就是10條，但是我們有像微波跟衛星的…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:30.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:32.908000+08:00 |
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那個是備援，備援是另外一件事情，低軌道衛星什麼的。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:33.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:24:43.496000+08:00 |
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所以我們國際通用是7條，然後我們離島相關的是10條，所以這每一條如果斷了，你們都能夠在數分鐘之內知道斷在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:44.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:24:50.861000+08:00 |
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是的，第一時間斷，我們兩邊系統馬上就知道斷，但是判斷地方要時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:50.861000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:53.923000+08:00 |
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那判斷地方，你們會同時啟動嗎？會。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:53.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:56.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
還是會把客戶服務完，再回來看斷在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:56.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-16T11:24:57.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
應該是雙管齊下。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-16T11:24:57.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:01.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
所以理論上有個地方斷了，你們大概5分鐘吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:01.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:03.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
幾分鐘內就會知道斷在哪裡嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:03.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:03.931000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
大概知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:04.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:05.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
接下來的動作是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:05.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:11.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我們也會通報相關單位，例如現在有所謂的重大事故通報辦法…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:12.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:14.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我真正要問的是，多久會到海巡署？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:16.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:25:28.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
應該這樣講，過去我們的SOP除了剛才的處理之外，通報到數發部的網站裡面，這個事實上是30家…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:29.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:29.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
通報到網站？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:30.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:25:36.074000+08:00 |
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對，這是標準程序，但是如果是重大，我們當然也會用電話溝通等等，這個是有標準程序。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:36.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:43.197000+08:00 |
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另外，第二個，國土辦在去年也有國土安全的單，所以我們同時也會通報。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
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2025-01-16T11:25:44.617000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:50.140000+08:00 |
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海巡坦白說以前因為這個是比較沒有，但是經過這一次之後，我們以後也會同時。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:50.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-16T11:25:51.140000+08:00 |
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所以以前沒有嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-16T11:25:50.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:05.268000+08:00 |
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好，現在再回到前一動，你知道斷在哪裡了，你有一個單子要通知國土辦，你是第一張單子通知他斷訊了、某一條電纜斷了，接下來幾分鐘後知道它斷在哪裡，還要不要再通報一次？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:06.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:08.331000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
一般是會的，還是會。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:08.331000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:09.932000+08:00 |
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我不要聽一般，有還是沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:10.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:13.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
我們會續報，所以一般來講，大概兩個小時內，我們會再續報。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:14.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:14.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
兩個小時啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:15.834000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:17.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
沒有，我講的是標準程序啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:18.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:18.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我們知道之後馬上…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:19.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:20.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
你現在說標準程序，我聽起來都不標準。抱歉！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:20.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:22.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我現在為什麼讓國安局長跟相關單位坐在這邊呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:22.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:30.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
每一個動作都要有意義，沒有意義的刪掉，浪費文書作業。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:31.071000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-16T11:26:58.616000+08:00 |
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斷訊了，你讓客戶備援可以運作，這是對的，但是同步有關安全的，第一張單子應該告訴哪個單位，告訴他說某一條T1、C1電纜斷了，第二張馬上知道第一秒要告訴他斷在什麼位置，下面的SOP也許放在國土辦，通知海軍、通知海巡，否則你這一邊在兩小時內要通報，你知道疑犯都跑多遠了，所以這個沒有標準作業嗎？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-16T11:26:59.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:00.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
局長，我問這個你懂意思嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:00.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:08.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
所以這一次我完全沒辦法去指責或認為海巡署快或慢，因為以往海巡署根本沒有在通報對象內，我這樣講對還是錯？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:11.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:12.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
有，會通報，但是時間沒有要求。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:13.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:14.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
那是間接、間接、間接了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:14.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:16.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
你們通報的對象沒有海巡署。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:18.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:21.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們會通報，但是沒有標準，就是說沒有規定一定要多久。 |
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0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:22.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:23.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
沒有規定一定要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:23.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-16T11:27:25.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
我們這邊有一大堆國軍將領喔！抱歉！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:26.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:27:35.827000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
下面有國軍將領，聽到這個都不知道仗該怎麼打，那就是有通報也可以，慢慢通報也可以，快快通報也可以，或者沒有通報也可以啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:36.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:27:42.593000+08:00 |
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委員，我剛才提到國土辦有一個國土辦的事件單，那個事實上我們是同時發出去。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:42.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:27:53.303000+08:00 |
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那個事件單有沒有要求，比如說現在一旦知道哪個點斷在坐標幾度的時候就要立即通報，還是要等你們忙完其他事情再來通報？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-16T11:27:54.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:02.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我們同時在裡面，另外還有一個Juiker，我們也同時通報，剛才跟委員報告，因為量有時候要一點時間，所以大概會譬如說25分鐘…… |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:02.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:04.456000+08:00 |
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不是，你剛才講幾分鐘，現在又變25分鐘了。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:05.137000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:06.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
不一定，因為有時候很難…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:06.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:11.244000+08:00 |
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你打光「啪」過去、回來，要測距離嘛！對。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:11.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:28:14.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
要測距離而且要判斷，要越精準的話…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:14.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:15.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
到底要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:16.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:19.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
有時候15分鐘、25分鐘，差不多啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:19.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:28:31.433000+08:00 |
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你知道我從剛才問到現在，你的答案就已經不一樣了，我不是要為難你，這件事件是已發生的已知事件，如果到現在我還沒有辦法得到標準答案，我怎麼冀望你下一次能夠有改善呢？了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.934 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:31.433000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:32.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我可以追查…… |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:32.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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2025-01-16T11:28:49.039000+08:00 |
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所以這個應該是跨部會，我不是指責中華電信，因為你不負責安全這塊，但現在應該要納入了，美國他們的國土安全署在管這個事情的時候，有哪些要列管標準作業程序，所以我們回到國安局，請局長。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:49.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:51.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我剛才問這一part，你就知道問題在哪裡了。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:51.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2025-01-16T11:28:52.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
對，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2025-01-16T11:28:51.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:01.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
第一個，沒有標準作業程序；第二個，該通報誰、該怎麼處理，海底電纜在海底，不通知海軍，也要通知海巡，要不然誰去看？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2025-01-16T11:29:01.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:03.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
漁船嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2025-01-16T11:29:03.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:10.135000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
馬祖跟我們斷聯了，因為馬祖是我們管制區，難道不應該通知國防部嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2025-01-16T11:29:10.135000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:17.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
所以這個標準作業程序沒有，發生了事情，我回過頭問，馬祖斷了，國防部怎麼反應那麼慢，我能指責他嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2025-01-16T11:29:17.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:26.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
因為第一個時間知道斷聯的人是掌控這7條國際、10條國內的中華電信，他的通報，你剛剛聽到現在「霧煞煞」。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2025-01-16T11:29:29.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2025-01-16T11:29:37.476000+08:00 |
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對，我同意委員的觀點，也就是就中華電信來講，他畢竟是一個電信服務商，他比較關注的是在於電信服務為主。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:37.636000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:40.497000+08:00 |
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所以這一套建構的系統，我覺得國安局…… |
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蔡局長明彥 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:41.017000+08:00 |
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就國安單位來講，確實像委員講的，假如在通報過程當中，讓我們的國安單位，包括行政院國土辦，可以第一時間掌握資訊的話，再傳到國防部、海巡署…… |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:50.640000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:51.901000+08:00 |
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你在調派兵力各方面比較清楚。 |
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蔡局長明彥 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:51.901000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:54.602000+08:00 |
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對，還有國安局這邊才可以做必要的即時應處。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:29:54.722000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:02.771000+08:00 |
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局長，因為我在擔心如果有一天這17條在同一個時間斷了，他們怎麼辦？ |
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蔡局長明彥 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:02.771000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:13.418000+08:00 |
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對，而且甚至不是只有海纜，就國安局的角度來講，海纜只要出問題，資訊到我們這邊，我們除了了解海纜的狀況之外，還必須要判斷同時中共的資安攻擊是不是有升高…… |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:13.418000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:14.418000+08:00 |
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當然，我待會會請教海巡署。 |
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蔡局長明彥 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:13.619000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:17.201000+08:00 |
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或是周邊的海事活動有沒有升高，這部分是我們關注的。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:17.481000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:17.981000+08:00 |
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局長，你繼續聽一下。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:18.982000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:27.977000+08:00 |
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中華電信，我再問下一個問題，這17條如果同時斷了，你們有沒有應變能力，要怎麼處理？ |
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| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:29.658000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:38.745000+08:00 |
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剛剛跟委員報告，以國內來講，除了10條海纜之外，我們還有微波備援，我們還有衛星備援。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:39.386000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:42.969000+08:00 |
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當然，你們會啟動備援，但它傳遞的頻寬及數量差很多啦。有差。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:43.069000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:54.838000+08:00 |
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我現在是告訴你，比如今天17條都斷掉了，你知道那就很像人為的，同時17條斷掉，你評估你們現在有沒有這樣的應變能力？ |
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0.812 |
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林總經理榮賜 |
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2025-01-16T11:30:59.282000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:05.027000+08:00 |
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這個我們內部做過評估也有演練，事實上如果是這樣的話，一定是……大事。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:06.048000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:07.749000+08:00 |
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是一個很辛苦的過程。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:07.849000+08:00 |
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對，中華電信目前是沒有……如果同時面對大量的，不要說17條，斷了10條、8條、6條，你們可能會有一陣混亂。是。 |
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| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
林總經理榮賜 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:11.993000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:30.506000+08:00 |
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委員，跟您報告，針對這個事情，以去年來講，國土辦就辦過兩次的演練、演習，我講中華電信的部分，還辦過兩次的安全檢查，事實上，這個過程裡面就是在模擬剛剛委員所講的事情。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:30.886000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:31:58.502000+08:00 |
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那個模擬資料如果不涉機密的話，我要求我們委員會要看一下你們的題項、SOP等等，涉及機密，我尊重，可以機密報告，因為這個東西它正在發生，我們目前的應變標準作業程序是不足的，也許中華電信目前擁有的capacity、擁有的能力也不足，這個要檢視，國會要監督這一塊，我相信國安會也應該要去監督這一塊。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:00.122000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:04.951000+08:00 |
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我請教海巡署副署長，這次的事件你們多久接到通知？ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:06.071000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:09.552000+08:00 |
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中華電信斷聯的時間已經出來了，從斷掉到你們接到通知是多久之後？ |
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0.793 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:10.252000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:21.155000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，1月3號12點40分接到中華電信通報，通報內容是7點45分野柳東北方11.3浬發生斷纜，所以將近…… |
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0.897 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:21.775000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:23.115000+08:00 |
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5個小時耶。 |
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謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:23.256000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:30.958000+08:00 |
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快5個小時，接到通報之後，我們要回放雷達航跡，要研判哪些可疑船舶，鎖定一艘船舶之後，我們馬上派艇過去。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:31.138000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:38.156000+08:00 |
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所以我請教副署長，10分鐘之內告訴你，跟5個小時以後告訴你，你們處理會不會有所不同？ |
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謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:40.117000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:42.358000+08:00 |
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喪失破案第一先機，後續會很辛苦。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:42.999000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:50.142000+08:00 |
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對啊，因為你只能靠航跡，好像是那一艘，它走得很奇怪，它就跟你講：我的車葉壞掉了，所以在那邊亂繞。 |
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謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:50.142000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:51.943000+08:00 |
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我們是派艇全速去攔查。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:52.843000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:56.685000+08:00 |
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5個小時，你們那是算幾節的，你不如派戰鬥機去飛還比較快。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:32:56.825000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:11.018000+08:00 |
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我的意思是說，你想想看，7點45分斷掉，12點40分海巡才接到通知，這個要是命案的話，血都乾了，所以這有問題。 |
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謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:11.798000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:22.685000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，我們在1月6號海委會召開跨部會會議，其中通報機制包括政府整個通報機制，誠如委員剛才講的，當初連國防部也沒有通報，所以我們現在要把國防部…… |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:23.006000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:23.766000+08:00 |
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它沒有收到通報？ |
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| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:23.766000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:29.910000+08:00 |
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是，現在包括跟國防部開會，我們第一時間接到中華電信通報，現在我們正在精進通報機制。 |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:31.131000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:39.820000+08:00 |
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離島的海底電纜是國防部有在用的，它沒有被通報，它連敵人在哪裡都不知道，可是你剛剛有沒有聽清楚？ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:40.421000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:51.794000+08:00 |
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其實中華電信是有能力，我就抓寬一點，有能力在25分鐘之內知道大概是哪個位置斷，結果你是5個小時以後才知道，這一定要改進，這不改進怎麼行呢？ |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:33:52.494000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:34:55.148000+08:00 |
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我再請教你，我如果25分鐘之內告訴你，你的船開過去，當然你們現在沒有空中兵力嘛，那這是屬於警察業務，也就是海巡的業務，我們也不適合動用國軍的兵力，所以我這邊具體建議，美國的海巡有空中的能量，日本的海巡也有空中的能量，我們臺灣的海巡目前是沒有空中的能量，以海巡署副署長的身分，我請教你，你認不認為因應現在臺灣的灰色地帶衝突越來越多，灰色地帶衝突就是介於軍跟民之間，所以常常是海巡署在前面，海軍做後盾，可是你們現在不管是抽砂船，或是大量水上民兵的漁船環繞，或者像這種拖斷海底電纜，掛第三國的權宜輪，你們的船艦過去，事實上時間會相當長，哪怕你全速30節在開，都要相當長，你認為海巡署該不該建置空中兵力？ |
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| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
謝副署長慶欽 |
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2025-01-16T11:34:56.288000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:35:14.636000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，空中能量、偵搜能力當然比艦艇快又廣，我們想方設法在提升海巡的水面跟空中能量，所以現在逐步推動無人機，依照我們的政策、行政院的政策，我們先推動無人機，我們不斷地在引進新的…… |
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王委員定宇 |
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2025-01-16T11:35:14.636000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:35:15.636000+08:00 |
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這塊要快啦！ |
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| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
謝副署長慶欽 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:14.656000+08:00 |
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2025-01-16T11:35:14.676000+08:00 |
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未來會評估…… |
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0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:16.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:18.820000+08:00 |
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而且無人機不是所有事情的答案。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
謝副署長慶欽 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:18.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:19.820000+08:00 |
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是，這一部分會列入…… |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:19.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:38.220000+08:00 |
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我最後一句話問蔡局長，這個問題我私下問過某些律師，我們就算在公海攔到現行犯、在公海攔到可疑的犯嫌，我們能執法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:39.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:43.682000+08:00 |
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涉及到一些溝通聯繫的過程。 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:43.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:44.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
能或不能？ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:44.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:55.327000+08:00 |
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假設我現在在公海上懷疑這艘輪破壞我們海底電纜，然後他拼命跑，我們的海巡或者我們的海軍能夠在公海執行嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:55.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:56.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
對，管轄權有點疑義。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:56.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2025-01-16T11:35:57.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
管轄權會有問題。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2025-01-16T11:35:57.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:06.292000+08:00 |
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所以我們今天講了那麼多，確定了疑犯、確定了破壞位置、確定了犯行，地點落在公海怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:06.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:09.012000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
你現在沒有答案，對不對？對。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:09.012000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:17.837000+08:00 |
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他在公海進行這種類似切斷或者類似灰色地帶，甚至於類似侵略的行為，我們現在在公海上沒有執法的法律依據。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.936 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:19.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:20.434000+08:00 |
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對，有點問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:20.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:21.434000+08:00 |
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那怎麼辦？ |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:20.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:24.516000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
可能要由那艘船的船旗國來進行相關的司法偵查。 |
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0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:24.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:25.797000+08:00 |
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喀麥隆哪會理你啊！對啊。 |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:25.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:26.797000+08:00 |
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你懂我意思嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:26.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:26.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
法律上是這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:26.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:30.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
然後你要等他跑到哪個港口，看那個港口的國家要不要處理，這就慢了嘛！對。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:31.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:51.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
所以這一塊法律上執法的部分可能要跟友盟溝通，這一塊其實才是大問題，縱使我們提升了空中能量、我們提升了警告的SOP，我們第一時間反應、第一時間就掌握到是哪一艘船做的壞事，在公海上你根本什麼都不能做，那怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0.989 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
王委員定宇 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:51.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:57.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
這個題目的問號我留給國安局，我希望下一次從你這邊得到答案，好不好？好。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:57.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2025-01-16T11:36:57.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2025-01-16T11:36:57.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2025-01-16T11:37:00.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
謝謝王定宇委員，局長請回。 |
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0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2025-01-16T11:37:01.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2025-01-16T11:37:03.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
接下來請洪孟楷委員上臺質詢。 |
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0.923 |