| IVOD_ID |
158854 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158854 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-15,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
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內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-13T13:14:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-13T13:24:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/293c543958a38e47319f6e50a827e90829f121d6a4fe60dd20fa0258716fbc77da5278befab78cf15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:14:42 - 13:24:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、繼續審查委員賴士葆等20人擬具「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案」案。二、繼續審查委員陳玉珍等18人擬具「地方制度法增訂第七條之四條文草案」案。三、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「地方制度法第八十三條之三條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「地方制度法第五十二條及第六十一條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員蘇清泉等27人擬具「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員陳玉珍等18人擬具「地方制度法第五十六條條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員李坤城等20人擬具「地方制度法第七十八條條文修正草案」案。八、審查委員李彥秀等16人擬具「地方制度法第五十五條及第五十六條條文修正草案」案。九、審查委員高金素梅等18人擬具「地方制度法第八十三條之三條文修正草案」案。十、審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員徐巧芯等21人擬具「地方制度法第五十五條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「地方制度法部分條文修正草案」案。） |
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那個謝謝主席麻煩有請內政部的部長還有原住民委員會的副主委好請中副主委還有部長委員好 |
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兩位先請教宗副主委12月13號原住民組委員會在你們官方的臉書上面貼說本院三讀通過原住民組組織法這件事情貴賀非常的不滿要提復議提了沒有沒有為什麼沒提公然在你們的臉書上面散播假訊息說要提復議沒有提那個臉書誰授權登的 |
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我想那個是之前可能在做開會討論的時候所以啊你們主委說要提復議行政委員長卓榮泰直接打槍啊賞他一巴掌啊有沒有要提復議啊回去告訴主委喔自己的進退啊想清楚啊他做了原住民主委委員會的大家長說要提復議卓榮泰就沒提啊 |
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他主委還幹得下去喔臉皮這麼厚還撐在那邊喔回去轉告主委啊自己考慮一下要不要請辭下台啊第二個原住民主委員會那篇丟人現眼的臉書自己把它撤下來啦請這位院長索隆泰都打臉啊可以嗎可以嗎 |
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謝謝委員謝謝可不可以我會謝謝委員的指教好來請部長我11月26號我辦公室收到疑似有子彈的物件我請助理到中正醫分局偵查隊報案這件事情11月26號是不是有人跟你報告 |
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報告委員你給我一分鐘齁我只有 我們警政署告訴我說黃委員可能有接到這樣的威脅跟恐嚇警政署誰跟你講的那事實上的內容我不知對不起 警政署誰跟你講的我現在沒辦法查證好 什麼時候可以回覆我給我兩天的時間回覆我齁警政署誰跟你講的兩天之內回覆我可以嗎我要去查一下沒有關係啊 你回去查兩天夠不夠 |
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嗯 可不可以給我三天的時間好 我給你三天的時間講清楚喔這件事情我從來沒有跟人家講結果你不曉得是當天還是第二天啊就收到訊息叫你辦公室的人跟我辦公室聯絡說你有事要找我我直接問助理啊說請問一下部長找我有什麼貴事說關於我接到子辦被恐嚇的事情啊 |
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我那時候聽到這個回覆我非常驚訝奇怪了我們請證署的同仁是把偵查不公開當什麼 |
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可以這樣講喔報告委員我是警政署的督導的上司如果我們有重要的人物受到威脅的時候我的要點只有一個我們希望委員可不可以申請隨乎那我只是要來報告說您方不方便要申請隨乎你行政上面要怎麼講隨便你去講啦我就請教內政部部長請問你是司法警察官嗎 |
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當然不是對啊 雖然憑什麼被威脅我要保護委員的安全啊 |
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他憑什麼跟你講這沒有違反偵查不公開喔我告訴你我只知道說委員受到威脅內容我完全不清楚啊沒有關係啊我一樣一樣來你只要把誰跟我講的把誰跟你講的告訴我就好了接下來的刑事程序我們就按照刑事程序啊來加以處理我今天沒有在這邊跟你針對這件事情啊好來委員的案件喔我相信你都很關心啊我們來討論一下另外一個委員的案件啊 |
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這是個刑犯喔在警察面前直接拿油壓剪破壞公務這件事情警政署依法提出告訴沒有我不清楚你不清楚可以回去了解嗎我可能要問到那個地方警察才知道沒有關係啊一定有權要做主的人才可以決定要不要代表國家提起刑事告訴嘛這樣破壞公務的行為部長認同嗎 |
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這個是破壞公務還是按照社會秩序維護法我想委員非常清楚法律上的認證那一個是油壓檢喔油壓檢在檢什麼在檢上面的鐵鎖那個鐵鎖是公務耶中華民國刑法寫得很清楚耶這哪是社會秩序維護法的問題啊不是偵查的主體沒辦法告訴你沒有關係啊但是偵查的主體是檢察官嘛 |
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檢察官法務部該負責的部分我今天早上涉法法治委員會請教過部長啊但大家都知道有告訴權的人是誰有告訴權的人就是說公務的所有人啊 |
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所以我才請你回去問警政署嘛但是這個如果是在立法院院區的話恐怕不是不是這在外面這在外面所以我不清楚這個照片所以沒關係你回去搞清楚嘛部長是不是在我們下午議案處理完成之前您等一下馬上交代好不好我們在我們下午會沒有我要查清楚沒有關係我給你時間查清楚啊不是我先回答召委的部分所以今天沒辦法是不是因為有的時候警政署他還要一點時間去查查那你要多少時間 |
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我不清楚 但是我盡快就對了好嗎 因為您講了下午 現在已經是下午了我說下午議案處理完之前下午議案處理完之前我們會逐條如果這樣時間不夠沒關係 您看要多久什麼時候 這個禮拜內可以嗎好 我這個禮拜內好嗎好 這個禮拜內是另外一個問題來 第三個問題這林秉文很囂張幫詐騙集團洗錢 |
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氣飽潛逃啊還發臉書嗆聲啊而且嗆聲恐嚇的對象是誰啊一樣啊是本院立法院的同仁啊徐曉清啊部長這麼關心啊本院立委的安危啊您非常關心嘛林秉文是隔海嗆聲欸還透過人說啊他都不會打嘴砲啊有事就直接找人處理啦 |
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這種人追緝 盜案我相信是全民的共識但我只有一個問題法務部的部分歸法務部的部分地檢署歸地檢署我只有一個問題我們通緝犯查信系統從我第一次當立委到現在我一直在追我們通緝犯查信系統就殘破不堪 |
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後來之前行政院跟我說他們出了一個整合版的系統來整合版的系統我就先就內政部執掌範圍之內刑事警察局通緝犯查緝系統為什麼找不到林秉文這個通緝犯查緝系統他都已經被通緝啦在公告系統裡面找不到啊為什麼林秉文比較大尾 |
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還是因為林秉文後面都是這些人刑事警察局連公告系統都不敢把他刊登上去喔部長這件事情知不知道通緝犯就是通緝犯沒有大偉跟小偉我們按照刑事警察局那刑事警察局要交代清楚啊好那我來請刑事警察局來做修理告訴刑事警察局喔終於搞成這個樣子啊內政部刑事警察局的通緝犯系統如果連這個都不敢登 |
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那相關的預算把它砍掉剛好而已嘛我有說錯了嗎沒有關係如果我有誤解歡迎內政部警政署刑事警察局今天發聲明公開跟台灣社會講林秉文的案子鬧到今天啦通緝犯的系統還沒上是要包屁喔 |
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是要包庇喔?當然不是最好不是啦本來就不是最好不是嘛本來刑事警察局就要按照刑事警察局應該有的規範來處理所以有嗎?我可以保證但是我跟你講說如果你認為這樣子不妥當的話我會請他什麼叫我認為這樣不妥當上面就沒有嘛通緝犯該登沒有登還叫做我認為不妥當喔報告委員部長你認為很妥當嗎? |
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你讓我查清楚以後我們會做更正做錯就做錯了嘛我查清楚以後會做更正好 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:14:55.804000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，麻煩有請內政部部長以及原住民族委員會副主委。 |
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主席 |
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請部長及鍾副主委。 |
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0.5 |
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劉部長世芳 |
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2025-01-13T13:14:56.845000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-13T13:14:58.166000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0 |
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鍾副主任委員興華 |
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委員好。 |
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1 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:01.856000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:01.856000+08:00 |
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兩位好。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:02.216000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:19.881000+08:00 |
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先請教鍾副主委，12月13號原住民族委員會在官方臉書上面貼文，說本院三讀通過原住民族委員會組織法這件事情貴會非常不滿，要提覆議，請問提了沒有？沒有。 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:20.041000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:20.381000+08:00 |
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為什麼沒提？ |
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1 |
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黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-13T13:15:21.821000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:24.402000+08:00 |
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公然在你們的臉書上面散播假訊息喔？ |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:24.582000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:26.163000+08:00 |
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說要提覆議卻沒有提！ |
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0.778 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:26.363000+08:00 |
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那臉書是誰授權登的？ |
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0.889 |
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鍾副主任委員興華 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:34.401000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:37.123000+08:00 |
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我想那可能是之前在開會討論的時候做的決定…… |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:37.623000+08:00 |
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所以你們主委說要提覆議，行政院院長卓榮泰直接打槍、賞他一巴掌，沒有要提覆議啊！ |
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0.886 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:15:42.247000+08:00 |
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回去告訴主委，自己的進退想清楚，他做為原住民族委員會的大家長說要提覆議，卓榮泰就沒提啊！ |
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| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:03.203000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:07.586000+08:00 |
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他主委還幹得下去，臉皮這麼厚還撐在那邊喔！ |
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1 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:10.047000+08:00 |
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回去轉告主委，自己考慮一下要不要請辭下臺。 |
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1 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:16.031000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:24.255000+08:00 |
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第二個，原住民族委員會那篇丟人現眼的臉書自己把它撤下來，行政院院長卓榮泰都打臉了啊！ |
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0.821 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:25.436000+08:00 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:25.556000+08:00 |
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可以嗎？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:25.556000+08:00 |
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可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
鍾副主任委員興華 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2025-01-13T13:16:29.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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2025-01-13T13:16:30.610000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-13T13:16:30.610000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-13T13:16:31.010000+08:00 |
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可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
鍾副主任委員興華 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-13T13:16:31.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2025-01-13T13:16:32.210000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的指教。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2025-01-13T13:16:32.230000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2025-01-13T13:16:32.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
好，請部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-13T13:16:32.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2025-01-13T13:16:35.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
11月26號我辦公室收到疑似有子彈的物件，我請助理到中正一分局偵查隊報案，這件事情11月26號是不是有人跟你報告？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-13T13:16:54.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:01.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
報告委員，你給我1分鐘，只有警政署告訴我黃委員可能有接到這樣的威脅跟恐嚇…… |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:01.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:02.629000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
警政署誰跟你講的？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:03.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:04.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
事實上的內容我不知道…… |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:04.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:05.931000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
對不起，警政署誰跟你講的？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:07.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:08.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我現在沒辦法查證，因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:08.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:11.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
好，什麼時候可以回復我？給我…… |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:12.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:18.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
兩天的時間回復我警政署誰跟你講的，兩天之內回復我可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:18.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:19.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我要去查一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:19.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:20.902000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
沒有關係，你回去查啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:21.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:22.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
兩天夠不夠？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:23.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:25.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
可不可以給我三天的時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:25.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:27.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
好，我給你三天的時間。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:28.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:46.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
這件事情我從來沒有跟人家講，結果你不曉得是當天還是第二天就收到訊息，叫你辦公室的人跟我辦公室聯絡，說你有事要找我，我直接問助理：請問一下部長找我有什麼貴事？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-13T13:17:47.652000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-13T13:17:57.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
結果說是關於我接到子彈被恐嚇的事情，我那時候聽到這個回復非常驚訝，奇怪了，警政署的同仁是把偵查不公開當什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:00.851000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:02.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
可以這樣講喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:02.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:04.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
報告委員，我是警政署的督導上司…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:04.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:05.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
是，所以呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:05.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:19.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
如果有重要人物受到威脅的時候，我的要點只有一個，我們希望委員可不可以申請隨扈，我只是要來報告說您方不方便申請隨扈…… |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:19.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:22.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
分兩個部分，你行政上面要怎麼講隨便你去講啦…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:22.056000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:23.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
我確實只有拿到這樣的公文而已…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:23.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:26.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我就請教內政部部長，請問你是司法警察官嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:27.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:28.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
當然不是。對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:28.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:29.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
所以他憑什麼跟你講？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:29.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:30.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
但是行政上我一定要處理啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:29.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:29.969000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
我要保護委員的安全啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:33.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:33.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
他憑什麼跟你講？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:33.918000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:36.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這沒有違反偵查不公開喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:36.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:39.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我告訴你，我只知道委員受到威脅，內容我完全不清楚啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:40.522000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:50.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
沒有關係，我一樣一樣來，你只要把誰跟你講的告訴我就好了，接下來的刑事程序，我們就按照刑事程序來加以處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:50.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:52.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我今天沒有要在這邊跟你爭論這件事情…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:52.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-13T13:18:53.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我覺得我在行政上面按照行政照行政的方式來處理，我認為每一個委員的安全不應該受到威脅，我們一定要保護…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.021 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-13T13:18:52.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:11.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
委員的案件我相信你都很關心，我們來討論一下另外一個委員的案件，這是現行犯，在警察面前直接拿油壓剪破壞公物，這一件事情警政署依法提出告訴沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:12.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:12.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:13.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:15.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
你不清楚，可以回去了解嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:15.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:18.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我可能要問到地方警察才知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:18.143000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:18.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
沒有關係啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:19.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:26.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
一定有權要做主的人才可以決定要不要代表國家提起刑事告訴嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:27.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:29.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
這樣破壞公物的行為部長認同嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:31.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:35.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
這個是破壞公物還是按照社會秩序維護法，我想委員非常清楚法律上的認知…… |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:35.708000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:36.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
先停一下，那個是油壓剪，油壓剪在剪什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:36.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:37.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
在剪上面的鐵鎖，那個鐵鎖是公物耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:38.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:40.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
中華民國刑法寫得很清楚，這哪是社會秩序維護法的問題啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:40.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-13T13:19:41.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
我們不是偵查的主體，沒辦法告訴你。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-13T13:19:42.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:07.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
沒有關係，但是偵查的主體是檢察官，檢察官、法務部該負責的部分，我今天早上在司法及法制委員會請教過部長，大家都知道，有告訴權的人是誰？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:07.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:14.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
有告訴權的人就是公物的所有人，所以我才請你回去問警政署嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:15.187000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:17.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
但是這個如果是在立法院院區的話，恐怕要進到立法院…… |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:17.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:19.928000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
不是、不是，這在外面，這在外面！ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:20.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:21.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
所以我不清楚這個照片的所在地…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:21.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:23.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
所以沒關係，你回去搞清楚嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:24.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:29.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
部長，是不是在我們下午議案處理完成之前，您等一下馬上交代，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:29.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:30.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我們下午會處理…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:30.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:31.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
沒有，我要查清楚，因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:32.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:34.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
沒有關係，我給你時間查清楚啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:34.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:36.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
不是，我先回答召委的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:36.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:37.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
所以今天沒辦法，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:38.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:40.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
因為有的時候警政署還要一點時間去查察…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:40.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:41.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
你要多少時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:41.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:44.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我不清楚，但是我儘快就對了，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:44.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:46.634000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
因為您講的下午，現在已經是下午了。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:47.435000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:49.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我說下午議案處理完成之前。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:50.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:51.656000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
下午議案處理完之前？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:51.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:53.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我們會逐條。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:53.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:55.077000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
如果這樣時間不夠，沒關係，您看要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:55.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:55.817000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
什麼時候？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:56.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:57.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
這個禮拜內，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:57.318000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:58.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
好，這個禮拜內，好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:58.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2025-01-13T13:20:58.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
好，這個禮拜內。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2025-01-13T13:20:59.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2025-01-13T13:21:12.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
還有另外一個問題，第三個問題，這個林秉文很囂張，幫詐騙集團洗錢，棄保潛逃，還發臉書「嗆聲」，而且「嗆聲」恐嚇的對象是誰？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.898 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2025-01-13T13:21:12.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2025-01-13T13:21:14.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
一樣，是本院立法院的同仁徐巧芯。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2025-01-13T13:21:14.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2025-01-13T13:21:18.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
部長這麼關心本院立委的安危，您非常關心嘛，林秉文是隔海「嗆聲」耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2025-01-13T13:21:18.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2025-01-13T13:21:20.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
還透過人說，他說他不會打嘴砲，有事就直接找人處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2025-01-13T13:21:40.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:13.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
把這種人追緝到案，我相信是全民的共識，但我只有一個問題，法務部的部分歸法務部的部分，地檢署歸地檢署，我只有一個問題，通緝犯查緝系統從我第一次當立委到現在，我一直在追，通緝犯查緝系統就殘破不堪，後來行政院跟我說他們出了一個整合版的系統。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:13.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:20.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
這個整合版的系統，我先就內政部職掌範圍之內的部分來說，刑事警察局的通緝犯查緝系統為什麼找不到林秉文？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.809 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:20.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:21.508000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
這個通緝犯查緝系統，他都已經被通緝了，在公告系統裡面找不到啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:21.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:21.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:21.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:21.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
是林秉文比較大尾？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:36.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:43.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
還是因為林秉文後面都是這些人，刑事警察局連公告系統都不敢把他刊登上去？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:45.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:46.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
部長，這件事你知不知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:47.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:51.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
通緝犯就是通緝犯，沒有大尾跟小尾，我們按照刑事警察局應該有的查緝系統來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.629 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:51.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:53.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
好，如果沒有大尾跟小尾，那刑事警察局要交代清楚啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:54.101000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2025-01-13T13:22:55.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
好，我請刑事警察局來做修正。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2025-01-13T13:22:56.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:09.077000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
告訴刑事警察局，這件事情搞成這個樣子，內政部刑事警察局的通緝犯系統如果連這個都不敢登，那相關的預算把它砍掉剛好而已嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:10.618000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:11.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我有說錯嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:11.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:12.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
我相信可能委員誤解了，我來看一看刑事警察局的系統有沒有刊登上去…… |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.033 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:11.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:24.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
沒有關係，如果我有誤解，歡迎內政部、警政署、刑事警察局今天發聲明，公開跟臺灣社會講。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:24.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:28.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
林秉文的案子鬧到今天，通緝犯的系統還沒上，是要包庇喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:29.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:30.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
是要包庇喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:31.070000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:31.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
當然不是！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:32.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:32.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
最好不是啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:33.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:33.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
本來就不是！ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:34.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:35.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
最好不是嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:35.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:39.073000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
如果他是通緝犯，本來刑事警察局就要按照刑事警察局應該有的規範來處理…… |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.781 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:39.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:39.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
所以有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:39.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:41.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
我可以保證。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:41.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
但是我跟你講說，如果你認為這樣子不妥當的話，我會請他們糾正。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
什麼叫「我認為這樣不妥當」？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
上面就沒有嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:44.835000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:45.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
通緝犯該登的沒有登，還叫做「我認為不妥當」喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:46.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:46.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
報告委員，我回去查清楚…… |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:46.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:46.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
部長，你認為很妥當嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:56.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:57.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
你讓我查清楚以後，我們會做更正。 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:58.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:58.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
做錯就做錯了嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:58.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2025-01-13T13:23:59.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
我查清楚以後會做更正。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2025-01-13T13:23:59.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:05.695286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
接著請丁學忠委員，丁學忠委員，丁學忠委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:05.995286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:10.852429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
洪孟楷委員，洪孟楷委員，洪孟楷委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:11.152429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:16.009571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
蔡易餘委員，蔡易餘委員，蔡易餘委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:16.309571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:21.166714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
莊瑞雄委員，莊瑞雄委員，莊瑞雄委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:21.466714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:28.609571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
登記發言的委員除不在場者外，其餘均已發言完畢，詢答結束。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:28.909571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:36.052429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
委員沈發惠、丁學忠、林思銘所提書面質詢列入紀錄，刊登公報。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2025-01-13T13:24:36.352429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2025-01-13T13:24:44.923857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
書面質詢和未及答復部分，請相關單位於一週內以書面答復，並副知本會。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |