IVOD_ID |
158854 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158854 |
日期 |
2025-01-13 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-15,36-1 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-01-13T13:14:42+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-01-13T13:24:08+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:09:26 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/293c543958a38e47319f6e50a827e90829f121d6a4fe60dd20fa0258716fbc77da5278befab78cf15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
委員發言時間 |
13:14:42 - 13:24:08 |
會議時間 |
2025-01-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:一、繼續審查委員賴士葆等20人擬具「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案」案。二、繼續審查委員陳玉珍等18人擬具「地方制度法增訂第七條之四條文草案」案。三、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「地方制度法第八十三條之三條文修正草案」案。四、審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「地方制度法第五十二條及第六十一條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員蘇清泉等27人擬具「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員陳玉珍等18人擬具「地方制度法第五十六條條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員李坤城等20人擬具「地方制度法第七十八條條文修正草案」案。八、審查委員李彥秀等16人擬具「地方制度法第五十五條及第五十六條條文修正草案」案。九、審查委員高金素梅等18人擬具「地方制度法第八十三條之三條文修正草案」案。十、審查委員魯明哲等16人擬具「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員徐巧芯等21人擬具「地方制度法第五十五條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「地方制度法部分條文修正草案」案。) |
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那個謝謝主席麻煩有請內政部的部長還有原住民委員會的副主委好請中副主委還有部長委員好 |
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兩位先請教宗副主委12月13號原住民組委員會在你們官方的臉書上面貼說本院三讀通過原住民組組織法這件事情貴賀非常的不滿要提復議提了沒有沒有為什麼沒提公然在你們的臉書上面散播假訊息說要提復議沒有提那個臉書誰授權登的 |
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我想那個是之前可能在做開會討論的時候所以啊你們主委說要提復議行政委員長卓榮泰直接打槍啊賞他一巴掌啊有沒有要提復議啊回去告訴主委喔自己的進退啊想清楚啊他做了原住民主委委員會的大家長說要提復議卓榮泰就沒提啊 |
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他主委還幹得下去喔臉皮這麼厚還撐在那邊喔回去轉告主委啊自己考慮一下要不要請辭下台啊第二個原住民主委員會那篇丟人現眼的臉書自己把它撤下來啦請這位院長索隆泰都打臉啊可以嗎可以嗎 |
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謝謝委員謝謝可不可以我會謝謝委員的指教好來請部長我11月26號我辦公室收到疑似有子彈的物件我請助理到中正醫分局偵查隊報案這件事情11月26號是不是有人跟你報告 |
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報告委員你給我一分鐘齁我只有 我們警政署告訴我說黃委員可能有接到這樣的威脅跟恐嚇警政署誰跟你講的那事實上的內容我不知對不起 警政署誰跟你講的我現在沒辦法查證好 什麼時候可以回覆我給我兩天的時間回覆我齁警政署誰跟你講的兩天之內回覆我可以嗎我要去查一下沒有關係啊 你回去查兩天夠不夠 |
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嗯 可不可以給我三天的時間好 我給你三天的時間講清楚喔這件事情我從來沒有跟人家講結果你不曉得是當天還是第二天啊就收到訊息叫你辦公室的人跟我辦公室聯絡說你有事要找我我直接問助理啊說請問一下部長找我有什麼貴事說關於我接到子辦被恐嚇的事情啊 |
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我那時候聽到這個回覆我非常驚訝奇怪了我們請證署的同仁是把偵查不公開當什麼 |
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可以這樣講喔報告委員我是警政署的督導的上司如果我們有重要的人物受到威脅的時候我的要點只有一個我們希望委員可不可以申請隨乎那我只是要來報告說您方不方便要申請隨乎你行政上面要怎麼講隨便你去講啦我就請教內政部部長請問你是司法警察官嗎 |
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當然不是對啊 雖然憑什麼被威脅我要保護委員的安全啊 |
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他憑什麼跟你講這沒有違反偵查不公開喔我告訴你我只知道說委員受到威脅內容我完全不清楚啊沒有關係啊我一樣一樣來你只要把誰跟我講的把誰跟你講的告訴我就好了接下來的刑事程序我們就按照刑事程序啊來加以處理我今天沒有在這邊跟你針對這件事情啊好來委員的案件喔我相信你都很關心啊我們來討論一下另外一個委員的案件啊 |
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這是個刑犯喔在警察面前直接拿油壓剪破壞公務這件事情警政署依法提出告訴沒有我不清楚你不清楚可以回去了解嗎我可能要問到那個地方警察才知道沒有關係啊一定有權要做主的人才可以決定要不要代表國家提起刑事告訴嘛這樣破壞公務的行為部長認同嗎 |
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這個是破壞公務還是按照社會秩序維護法我想委員非常清楚法律上的認證那一個是油壓檢喔油壓檢在檢什麼在檢上面的鐵鎖那個鐵鎖是公務耶中華民國刑法寫得很清楚耶這哪是社會秩序維護法的問題啊不是偵查的主體沒辦法告訴你沒有關係啊但是偵查的主體是檢察官嘛 |
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檢察官法務部該負責的部分我今天早上涉法法治委員會請教過部長啊但大家都知道有告訴權的人是誰有告訴權的人就是說公務的所有人啊 |
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所以我才請你回去問警政署嘛但是這個如果是在立法院院區的話恐怕不是不是這在外面這在外面所以我不清楚這個照片所以沒關係你回去搞清楚嘛部長是不是在我們下午議案處理完成之前您等一下馬上交代好不好我們在我們下午會沒有我要查清楚沒有關係我給你時間查清楚啊不是我先回答召委的部分所以今天沒辦法是不是因為有的時候警政署他還要一點時間去查查那你要多少時間 |
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我不清楚 但是我盡快就對了好嗎 因為您講了下午 現在已經是下午了我說下午議案處理完之前下午議案處理完之前我們會逐條如果這樣時間不夠沒關係 您看要多久什麼時候 這個禮拜內可以嗎好 我這個禮拜內好嗎好 這個禮拜內是另外一個問題來 第三個問題這林秉文很囂張幫詐騙集團洗錢 |
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氣飽潛逃啊還發臉書嗆聲啊而且嗆聲恐嚇的對象是誰啊一樣啊是本院立法院的同仁啊徐曉清啊部長這麼關心啊本院立委的安危啊您非常關心嘛林秉文是隔海嗆聲欸還透過人說啊他都不會打嘴砲啊有事就直接找人處理啦 |
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這種人追緝 盜案我相信是全民的共識但我只有一個問題法務部的部分歸法務部的部分地檢署歸地檢署我只有一個問題我們通緝犯查信系統從我第一次當立委到現在我一直在追我們通緝犯查信系統就殘破不堪 |
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後來之前行政院跟我說他們出了一個整合版的系統來整合版的系統我就先就內政部執掌範圍之內刑事警察局通緝犯查緝系統為什麼找不到林秉文這個通緝犯查緝系統他都已經被通緝啦在公告系統裡面找不到啊為什麼林秉文比較大尾 |
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還是因為林秉文後面都是這些人刑事警察局連公告系統都不敢把他刊登上去喔部長這件事情知不知道通緝犯就是通緝犯沒有大偉跟小偉我們按照刑事警察局那刑事警察局要交代清楚啊好那我來請刑事警察局來做修理告訴刑事警察局喔終於搞成這個樣子啊內政部刑事警察局的通緝犯系統如果連這個都不敢登 |
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那相關的預算把它砍掉剛好而已嘛我有說錯了嗎沒有關係如果我有誤解歡迎內政部警政署刑事警察局今天發聲明公開跟台灣社會講林秉文的案子鬧到今天啦通緝犯的系統還沒上是要包屁喔 |
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是要包庇喔?當然不是最好不是啦本來就不是最好不是嘛本來刑事警察局就要按照刑事警察局應該有的規範來處理所以有嗎?我可以保證但是我跟你講說如果你認為這樣子不妥當的話我會請他什麼叫我認為這樣不妥當上面就沒有嘛通緝犯該登沒有登還叫做我認為不妥當喔報告委員部長你認為很妥當嗎? |
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你讓我查清楚以後我們會做更正做錯就做錯了嘛我查清楚以後會做更正好 |