| IVOD_ID |
158815 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158815 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-13T09:19:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-13T09:33:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/293c543958a38e47d75a0f230701eb04b1c135165b29e3b3b3dca60030ab772a608b7010f5f8dc8a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:19:08 - 09:33:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請司法院、法務部率所屬相關單位列席就「號召民眾上街對抗司法審判者為妨害司法公正罪之現行犯？」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、併案審查
（一）行政院函請審議「律師法第九條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員林宜瑾等27人擬具「律師法第九條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員吳沛憶等23人擬具「律師法第九條條文修正草案」案。） |
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是不是麻煩了有請我們法務部的部長司法院刑事廳的廳長以及行政廳的廳長高廳長刑事廳的廳長是李廳長請政部長李廳長司法行政廳的廳長是高廳長委員長三位好時間的關係不一一問候 |
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我必須要老實講啊司法法治委員會啊今天做號召民眾上街對抗司法審判者為妨礙司法公正支線刑犯打一個大問號我在立法院的期間啊我大概 |
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就我自己在的期間我大概沒有看過這麼荒謬可笑這麼愚蠢的專案報告為什麼我說這個專案報告不僅荒謬可笑而且愚蠢司法院 |
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當天馬上就出書面報告啊直接下了結論啊下什麼結論啊我唸給大家看啊號召民眾上街對抗司法審判者除有違反集會遊行法等相關法律之情形外應受憲法集會自由權之保障司法院的報告一句話 |
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就講完了來請市法院刑事廳的廳長你們在書面報告裡面說除有違反集會遊行法等相關法律的情況是違反集會遊行法哪一條如果他的集會的目的是違反第四條的部分那是要被禁止的那包括他的所以呢違反集會遊行法法律效果是什麼 |
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刑事處罰對不對命令解散對嘛你要把話講清楚嘛這個機油法有刑事處罰的規定有沒有違反公正公約沒有沒有 |
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有沒有違反公正公約有沒有違反ICCP啊我花了納稅人這麼多的錢找了這麼多國際審查專家來審查審查了幾次啊就已經告訴你違反公正公約的規定連司法院院長被提名人張文貞 |
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我在同意權行使的時候自己都承認啦早該修啦修到現在都沒有修2008年蔡英文在自由廣場做了政治承諾到現在已經成為台灣公民社會最大的笑話了我直接切入主題拒絕綠色威權還我司法正義定狗雞的對象是誰啊就是賴清德啊這個活動的主旨這麼的明確 |
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我今天承認啊 號召的人就是我啊號召的人就是我啊歡迎法務部啊 歡迎台北地檢署啊歡迎調查局啊 歡迎刑事警察局啊開始對我偵辦 我喜耳恭聽啊 拭目以待我違反了什麼法律規定啊 太可笑了真的太可笑了 來請法務部部長 |
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今天排專案報告嘛你們說要個案認定嘛當然是要個案認定嘛來以法務部部長就這個集會遊行就這場活動的掌握目前違反了哪些刑事法律 |
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這個是個案的部分 以本部的立場我們是不知道不干涉不介入不知道不干涉不介入嘛這個個案還是要由檢警好來 我歡迎檢警大規模開始進行刑事調查我等著啊 我等著啊看我們中華民國台灣的法治還要鬧出什麼笑話我們繼續往下看 |
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我們繼續往下看法務部部長知不知道法務部部長知不知道最高法院前面可不可以集會遊行抗議基本的法律問題ABC啦這個是不可以因為是不可以禁制區是禁制區嘛有沒有檢察官去最高法院前面抗議過有沒有 |
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他是其會有審是吳俊榮他是個人的一個行為對嘛 個人的行為嘛當初他是澎湖地檢署的檢察長嘛現在已經高升為我們司法官學院的院長嘛2012年6月的時候這位檢察官就在最高法院抗議啊就在最高法院抗議啊但是我沒有說最高法院抗議的行為是錯的啊因為我們劉靜怡教授啊2016年的時候 |
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在法學教室就寫啦那法學教室是寫給什麼寫給大學生看的基本的法律常識要有啊來看一下法務部長知不知道這個建築物是什麼地方看得出來嗎有沒有去過這個我沒有去過美國聯邦最高法院 |
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美國聯邦最高法院一群人在前面抗議no justice no peace為了什麼案子2022年的時候墮胎婦女墮胎權劃時代 |
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最高法院的判決1973年Roy vs Wade被推翻了嘛有一群人啊跑去聯邦最高法院抗議那個時候啊我從來沒有聽過啊美國有什麼法律學者出來高喊啊這妨礙司法公正啊這違反集會遊行法啊全部都要嚴查、策辦 |
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美國不會鬧出這樣的笑話嘛現在在台灣的司法法制委員會鬧出這樣的笑話來 我們再繼續往下看啊2008年蘇志芬涉案的時候民進黨立委號召啊包圍地檢署啊這有沒有違法來 請教部長立委拜託包圍地檢署啊這有沒有違法來 請教部長 |
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這個我不清楚這個你不清楚嘛但你知不知道這個案子後來有沒有起訴任何人有嗎有起訴任何人嗎帶頭包圍的柯建民現在是民進黨立院黨團的總召再往下看2008年檢方不辦成於零就包圍地檢署這是王定宇講的 |
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這有沒有恐嚇罪來 請教一下部長這有沒有妨礙司法公正 這有沒有恐嚇王定宇後來被起訴嗎怎麼部長不敢回答喔奇怪 我那時候怎麼沒有看到一些法學學者出來講啊 |
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柯建民啊王定宇啊妨礙司法公正啊恐嚇啊全部都要徹查徹辦啊有嗎有辦嗎來請教部長有辦嗎 |
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有嗎回答不出來喔不敢講喔這不是不敢講這個案件是2008年的事情對嘛所以我們從客觀的歷史來回顧嘛從客觀的歷史來回顧有沒有有辦沒有辦這個有客觀的答案啊我不需要你主觀的臆測啊就沒有嘛來我們再往下看當初立委帶隊踹破法務部部長大門啊這個案子有辦嗎 |
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這個北檢有分案稱敗然後呢分案稱敗然後呢這件事撤回告訴撤回告訴喔誰撤回告訴法務部部長撤回告訴喔是嗎在你任內這個是羅部長撤回告訴就部長撤回告訴嘛在你任內有沒有立委率眾去踹破你的大門到今天為止有發生嗎這個沒有 |
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當然沒有嘛我們來看看啦什麼叫做真正的刑事犯罪行為我前面講的那些例子什麼叫真正的刑事犯罪行為來看一下職員押檢毀損公務檢警開始偵辦了嗎職員押檢毀損公務這現行犯警察全部都看到了開始偵辦了嗎 |
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有開始偵辦嗎這才是犯罪行為啊我從第一張PPT一直到這一張才出現真正的刑事犯罪行為啊辦了沒有來請教部長辦了沒有這才是現行犯啊毀損罪 |
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我國的刑法典不是白紙黑字寫得很清楚嗎開始辦了沒有部長請回答這個案件我不清楚齁這個案件你不清楚嗎好回去回去告訴啊有負責追訴犯罪啊職權的檢警啊奇怪了 |
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碰到這種事情真正的現行犯就軟趴趴我提醒喔告訴乃論的告訴啊是起訴的要件不是偵辦的要件所有大三學過刑事訴訟法的人通通都知道告訴乃論的告訴 |
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基本上是起訴的要件不是偵辦的要件我這樣講有刑事訴訟法基本素養的學生應該通通都可以聽得懂但大家覺得很奇怪啊為什麼沒開始偵辦屈從於壓力嗎 |
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來我們來看看啦 什麼是正港的妨礙司法公正罪啊為逃稅案件關說司法的邱泰山藍部長你認為這種不法關說應不應該用妨礙司法公正罪就辦這才是妨礙司法公正啊應不應該用妨礙司法公正就辦 |
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應不應該不敢回答應不應該用妨礙司法公正就辦不敢回答司法公正罪目前還在立法中嗎對嘛你們法務部最可笑的是什麼今天林志傑教授都來講了2017年思改國事會議就做決議了結果你們法務部行政院 |
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連個像樣的版本都提不出來啊來請高玉順廳長高廳長我相信不法官說你感同身受啊在你任內啊有沒有被不法官說過報告委員這個個案其實我之前在偵查程序中我已經做過說明了現在作為司法院 |
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的官員啊你認不認為台灣應該要訂不法關說罪呃 身為這個司法院的幕僚其實我們會尊重大院以及主管權責司法院沒有態度喔所以現在廳長很小就對了沒有辦法表達意見勇敢一點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
773.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
800.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
就像你當初啊勇於揭發最高法院的法官啊竟然敢關說司法還有另外一個很有名的案子啊柯建民幫自己的刑事案件關說司法為什麼沒有辦沒有明文規定嘛這才是現在最大的問題嘛就是這種關說司法不肖的政治人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
801.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
825.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
到現在還在立法院裡面橫行我們的法務部行政院連不法關說罪的版本都不敢提出來跟委員報告我們那個法務部的2019年就提了嘛這個我知道嘛上次討論就講了嘛所以我們本部是有立場的我們是有提出這個法案的所以呢本部有立場那你要敢講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
826.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
849.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
在你們本部的立場當中你們本部所提出來的條文柯建民這個是不是有構成不法關說的行為那這部分的話基本的函設嘛現行法沒有嘛但是你的版本有啊有還構不構成法務部版本的不法關說罪那這部分現在已經在審查在哪裡審查請注意時間對嘛 |
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853.444 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
867.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
法務部部長 要有一些基本的擔當啊要有一些基本的擔當啊不要連這種基本的事情都不敢講 唯唯諾諾的這個法務部部長讓人失望啊好 謝謝 |