| IVOD_ID |
158754 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158754 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-08T10:30:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-08T10:38:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/740a0dd0b202cb588c2d15e41664c816a56fd3a12bc29fbb2e7e046cfb2de4f78c182ccf94525d475ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:48 - 10:38:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於經濟部主管：經濟作業基金、水資源作業基金、經濟特別收入基金、核能發電後端營運基金。(詢答)
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於經濟部主管：台灣糖業股份有限公司、台灣中油股份有限公司。(詢答)
【1月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我想要請郭部長請郭部長郭部長早啊我要跟你直球對決我要問你啊川普即將要上任 |
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那他過去說全方位的提高關稅現在他說只針對攸關國家或者是經濟安全的特定產業我問你是什麼那未來如果他採取這樣子的關稅的時候那對於台灣我們的危機在哪裡請說 |
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首先回答這個委員關切的這個命題我想對台灣的威脅就我們到目前所了解的程度雖然他1月20號才會上去但是我們從他周邊所用的人跟這一些任職在新的他的內閣的人的行為來看 |
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他的這個讓美國更加偉大的這個做法關稅大概這個關稅的部分大概只是他在選舉前講的 |
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深圳的1月20號以後它落實的部分就像剛才委員所詮詢的可能會有一種不同不過這些命題我們想這個國家安全的部分相對的是比較多的對於國家安全的關稅提高是比較多的是不是所以它應該都是針對中國針對中國所以我們在內部討論的這個方式就這樣就是說我們如何幫助 |
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我們台商在台商對這個川普他對這個粗糙的部分他很考慮所以我們怎麼樣移轉協助我們的廠商移轉到他可能會增加關稅的這個區域那麼移動到 |
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不會增加關稅的地方從會增加關稅移動到不會增加關稅這是你們的做法嗎是不是譬如說在選前他一直在講他會對他最鄰近的兩個國家墨西哥跟加拿大課與高的關稅跟對中國課與更高的關稅 |
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這是他講的所以我們會針對他這樣一個假設的情境來跟廠商做一些討論我們盡量讓廠商的傷害是最小的以我們討論到目前的結論來講的話 |
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對臺灣影響比較大的應該是ICT的相關的產業ICT的產業另外一個他只關心ICT啊就是傳產的然後第二個傳產的部分呢應該是在汽車因為川普啊我們根據很多的這個研究者那經濟學家的分析川普是比較可能是比較 |
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他的印象之中也就是80年代的美國可能是他的picture80年代美國非常強大的時候那麼一直存在他的腦海裡面所以這樣子的一個關鍵我們是有跡可循的所以他認為80年代美國最強大的是什麼汽車業 建築業 |
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所以他想要把汽車移回去美國生產是嗎沒有錯所以你可以看到這個Mask回去了他現在要增加的部分都在美國 |
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好那我再問你你認識OTN過去的總代表我們鄧正宗總代表嗎他在他提出了他對於川普上台之後有可能發生的問題他有提出一點他說如果未來 |
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川普要求台灣跟他一起打擊大陸的時候是不是會減少要我們減少對大陸的進口而增加對美國的進口你認為這時候台灣要怎麼因應會不會對於我們的物價造成影響 |
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我們現在對中國的投資跟對美國的投資已經非常大的改變在過去的這幾年內所以我們要從中國進口的東西其實是已經不多了我們對中國的輸出也不多了 |
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其實鄧先生所提出來的這個觀點我們會參考你說的不多其實我們還是大部分當然對比於過去幾年來已經大幅度的降低但是還是很大程度的從大陸進口因為我們從中國大陸進口的東西一定會 |
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想殲滅是比較嚴重的延遲對我們國內的事業一定有非常大的影響 |
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因為中國對出國的東西強化它的補助所以造成我們國內我們如果開放讓中國的東西進口到台灣的話我們台灣很多的傳產很多的這個中小企業可能都沒有辦法存活下去所以在這個部分的話經濟部會有一套保護國內中小微企業繼續發展的一個方式那我們相信透過我們現在這個雙軸轉型的方法 |
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一個用AI來提升我們台灣企業的這個加值型的這個活動第二個透過我們的節能減碳的補助來降低我們這些中小微企業的製造成本第三個我們可能會擴大加速我們國內的這個基建基礎建設 |
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那基礎建設擴大加速的話就會讓我們的中小微企業 |
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得到國內自己的訂單好這是理想的狀態啦但是我們必須要了解美國自己有沒有辦法減少從大陸的進口美國自己也從大陸進口非常多的東西啊是不是那如果他們從大陸降低從大陸進口會不會反而造成他美國的通膨呢 |
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這也是他們應該要考量的但是美國的通膨我們發現美國在抗過去的通膨非常的厲害在過去COVID-19造成了這麼大的通膨美國發債所以讓他現在的通膨的影響只有在2點多%所以這個就是他們美國的經濟的這個 |
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處理的模式啦我相信在未來就是他對中國實以高關稅但是這個不是完全沒有替代性的所以我認為他們有辦法這個因應中國他提高關稅的方式第二個 |
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大部分基礎的這些生活所需的設施中國雖然價格很便宜但是品質還是堪慮所以這個替代性相當的高我相信美國他們會有方法來面對這樣的一個現象好 謝謝好 謝謝委員指教 |