| IVOD_ID |
158695 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158695 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-06T10:59:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-06T11:10:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/de7793bdba635484bb995c9d2fefed077d5a9e1565835ab693850abadfa9c29fdab12b64c84673915ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:59:20 - 11:10:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查委員牛煦庭等17人擬具「國家公園法部分條文修正草案」案。二、審查委員徐富癸等18人擬具「國家公園法部分條文修正草案」案。三、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國家公園法第十三條及第二十四條條文修正草案」案。） |
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上禮拜我們處理了國土計畫法國土計畫法你一開始的宣示是要如期上路很遺憾上禮拜五 |
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本院多數的委員包括執政的民主進步黨的委員直接打槍六年以後才要上路剛剛前一個質詢的委員張其凱委員已經代表了台灣民眾黨黨團清楚的表達了對於內政部部長劉世芳在國土計畫法你所提出來的政策立場清楚的 |
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被本院最大的兩個政黨民主進步黨加上中國國民黨聯手打槍你有沒有要負政治責任這不是文官依法行政的問題這是一個政務官的政策立場你希望明年應該是今年四月如期上路本院直接打槍 |
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對於你所要推展的政務啊立法院包括執政黨在內的立委都不支持有沒有要負政治責任謝謝委員的指教所以呢 有還是沒有我不曉得您所提的部分是哪一個部分的政治責任所負的政治責任很清楚啊你作為內政部部長 |
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本來要求國土計劃法今年四月如期上路嘛現在四月還沒有到啊所以你今年四月要你今年四月可以如期上路不清楚不清楚上個禮拜五立法院所過的國土計劃法行政院有要提覆議嗎沒有沒有要提覆議那你如何如期上路因為在修法的裡面他有提到是十年內 |
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所以你今年四月所以你今年四月會讓阿魯齊上路嗎是嗎報告委員我剛有跟張委員提到目前就是兩個縣市政府還沒有把國土功能分區圖送上來那桃園市政府是春節那那個南投縣政府我們正在努力所以你的計畫是要春節如果啦 |
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這兩個縣市政府送上來了你現在的政策立場還是一樣今年四月上路是嗎報告委員法律上授予給我們的是有延緩六年但是內那到底是六年內一年內五年內其實都很難說那我剛有特別提到我們現在碰到的部分就是說需要把 |
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預告的這個16個執法抽回來變成一共要預告23個執法因為現在的新的國土計畫法已經修正包括原住民要加入航運這些剛剛說過的東西沒有必要複述啦請你針對問題回答今年4月你有沒有要讓他上路我們會努力但是能不能達成目標不敢現在就跟委員報告沒有關係啦上個禮拜五 |
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包括執政黨的立委在院會裡面是怎麼發言的今年四月我就等著看看你之前所宣示的政策立場會不會如期實現如果不會的話你作為政務官的風骨跟政務官的原則 |
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我今天不急啊我就等你到今年四月啊看今年四月啊結果是如何第二個問題啊第二個問題啊上個禮拜台北地方法院開庭跟全國的人民公告會開放旁聽啊結果有一群人要進去法院旁聽啊被擋在被擋在法院的鋸馬外 |
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請問這是誰下令的台北市政府下令的還是警政署下令的人民到法院旁聽的權利啊要進去法院旁聽啊 |
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進不去讓大家覺得台北地方法院發那個公告是在騙人民嗎是在台北地院搞戒嚴嗎要進去旁聽進不去那個時候他們告訴我說有人要進去台北地方法院旁聽進不去我要發生什麼事他們那些要進去旁聽的民眾被警方擋在序碼外這件事情部長知道嗎 |
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呃 我知道警方有 呃 要做這個秩序的維護 但是秩序的維護是把要旁聽的民眾擋在鋸馬外嗎這裡並不清楚好 部長可不可以回去請教警政署是警政署下令的 |
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還是台北市政府下令的我來查一下好嗎權責要搞清楚三天之內回覆可以嗎你只是回去問一下請證書誰下令的嘛不是 報告委員您現在所說是12月26的話那就很快可以告訴您是誰下令的不是 我是說我回去問一下所以我說你三天之內回覆我可以嗎是好 謝謝之前啊 |
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包括賴清德總統所提的司法院院長 被提名人我在質詢他的時候 詢答的過程當中 他就直接講了說我們兩公約多次的國際審查報告都提到 極有法要檢討 要修正張文芬講的沒有錯 然後帶 |
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帶您看一下整個歷程我們的政府花大錢請了國際審查專家來審查我們的國家報告每一次請國際審查專家來的時候他們針對我們的集會遊行二法所表達的見解跟困惑是什麼啊表達嚴肅關切啊GO法為什麼還沒有過 |
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第一次的時候是2017年我們蔡英文前總統宴請國際審查委員吃得很好照片都有出來大家嘻嘻哈哈的不是為了吃飯是為了要審查我們的國家報告最後的結果是什麼來看一下2017年 |
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到目前為止 極有法沒有如專家在結論性意見與建議第75點的要求進行修法這是2017年的報告喔再看2021年的報告2021年的報告國際審查專家就看不下去了直接問啦到底是出於什麼樣的理由還沒有修訂到底是出於什麼樣的理由還沒有修訂到2022年2028號的時候語氣更強烈啦 |
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立法院還沒有通過的原因到底是什麼在這個部分請政府說明考量到現行法律違反了公正公約第21條為何需要6年多的時間來釐清來請教部長可不可以跟全民講一下連國際審查專家都看不下去這台灣到底在幹嘛找我們來審報告 |
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2017年就跟你講啦 極有法要修啊修到現在搞了幾年啊 就還是沒有修來 可不可以請部長示意一下報告委員 我想您所提出的這個部分我們非常的清楚現在極有法呢 仍然是在內部的審查當中還沒送到行政院對啊所以還沒有通過修正的理由是什麼 |
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是行政院延宕嗎是內政部拖延嗎是行政院擺爛嗎還是內政部擺爛現在我在幫國際審查專家所問的問題台灣公民我們大家都很關心我們的政府說我們要人權立國我們的政府說我們台灣簽了ICCP |
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跟世界人權潮流接軌國際審查專家說請政府說明考量現行的法律違反了公正公約21條為何需要6年多的時間來釐清啊國際審查專家請政府說明啊我們大家看了 |
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用我們納稅人的錢請來的國際審查專家提出來的問題我們大家都很關切啊但等不到政府一個答案啊您今天給的答案是說我們還持續在研議中是這樣嗎是這樣嗎 |
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是的你還要研議多久我沒有辦法給委員做一個比較明確的方向所以繼續拖嘛繼續混嘛下一次的時候要再找國際審查專家來的時候可能人家要再問一次啦要再問一次啦這樣子浪費納稅人的錢找國際審查專家來幹嘛來做秀嗎來做秀嗎 |
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國際審查專家問的問題你們也不回答事情也不解決就繼續放著就繼續放著這個就是我們現在內政部的態度喔就是我們現在內政部的態度喔繼續研議嘛 還要研議多久你也不知道研議到2028年總統改選會不會研議出來你也不知道 |
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你也不知道嘛是吧2028年會願意出來嗎請教部長 |
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2028年會研議出來嗎請教部長你還是沒有辦法回應嘛所以你當什麼部長嘛你當什麼部長嘛連一個簡單的極優法什麼時候弄出來都無法回應表示我們內部有很多不同的聲音很多不同的聲音奇怪咧奇怪當初蔡英文提出這個政治承諾的時候我從來沒聽到啊民進黨說什麼內部有很多不同的聲音咧 |
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欸奇怪了換到賴清德的時候內部有很多不同的聲音喔兩套標準是不是謝謝委員的指教來葉言之葉言之葉言之 |
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有請部長。部長。 |
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2025-01-06T11:00:01.363000+08:00 |
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部長，上禮拜我們處理了國土計畫法，針對國土計畫法，你一開始的宣示是要如期上路，很遺憾上禮拜五本院多數的委員，包括執政的民主進步黨的委員，直接打槍，6年以後才要上路。 |
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0.945 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:00:02.983000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:00:33.606000+08:00 |
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剛剛前一個質詢的張啓楷委員，已經代表了台灣民眾黨黨團清楚地表達，對於內政部部長劉世芳在國土計畫法所提出來的政策立場，清楚地被本院最大的2個政黨，民主進步黨加上中國國民黨聯手打槍，你有沒有要負政治責任？ |
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0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:00:36.347000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:01.827000+08:00 |
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這不是文官依法行政的問題，這是一個政務官的政策立場，你希望今年4月如期上路，本院直接打槍，對於你所要推展的政務，立法院包括執政黨在內的立委都不支持，有沒有要負政治責任？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:03.848000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:04.329000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的指教。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:05.850000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:06.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
所以呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:06.510000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:07.291000+08:00 |
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有還是沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:08.251000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:11.554000+08:00 |
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我不曉得您所提的是哪一個部分的政治責任？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:11.954000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:13.355000+08:00 |
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所負的政治責任很清楚啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:13.355000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:14.355000+08:00 |
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我跟委員回復…… |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:13.855000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:20.511000+08:00 |
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你做為內政部部長，本來要求國土計畫法今年4月如期上路嘛！ |
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0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:20.911000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:21.951000+08:00 |
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現在4月還沒有到啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:22.531000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:25.812000+08:00 |
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所以你今年4月可以如期上路？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:27.112000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2025-01-06T11:01:27.492000+08:00 |
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不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:28.112000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:33.974000+08:00 |
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上個禮拜五，立法院所過的國土計畫法行政院有要提覆議嗎？沒有。 |
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0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:34.434000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:36.434000+08:00 |
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沒有要提覆議，那你如何如期上路？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:36.734000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:39.075000+08:00 |
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因為在修法的裡面有提到是10年內，也就是延緩6年內，那原來…… |
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0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:41.007000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:47.133000+08:00 |
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所以你今年4月會讓它如期上路嗎？是嗎？ |
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0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:47.133000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:01:58.725000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我剛剛有跟張委員提到，目前就是2個縣市政府還沒有把國土功能分區圖送上來，桃園市政府是春節、南投縣政府我們正在努力，如果…… |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.948 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-06T11:01:59.225000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:10.355000+08:00 |
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所以你的計畫，如果這2個縣市政府送上來，你現在的政策立場還是一樣今年4月上路，是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:10.355000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:11.355000+08:00 |
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是不是？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:10.355000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:33.573000+08:00 |
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報告委員，法律上授予給我們的是有延緩6年，但是「內」，到底是6年內、1年內、5年內其實都很難說，我剛剛也特別提到我們現在碰到的部分是需要把預告的16個子法抽回，變成一共要預告23個子法，因為現在新的國土計畫法已經修正，包括原住民要加入，所以…… |
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0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:33.873000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:40.098000+08:00 |
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這些剛剛說過的東西沒有必要複述，請你針對問題回答，今年4月你有沒有要讓它上路？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-06T11:02:40.498000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:44.461000+08:00 |
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我們會努力，但是能不能達成目標不敢現在就跟委員報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:44.761000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:45.362000+08:00 |
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沒有關係啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-06T11:02:45.722000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:02:53.186000+08:00 |
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上個禮拜五包括執政黨的立委在院會裡面是怎麼發言的？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-06T11:02:53.846000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:03:10.207000+08:00 |
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今年4月我就等著看，看你之前所說宣示的政策立場會不會如期實現，如果不會的話，你做為政務官的風骨跟原則，我現在不急啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:11.307000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-06T11:03:15.329000+08:00 |
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我就等你到今年4月，看今年4月結果是如何。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:15.329000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2025-01-06T11:03:16.329000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員的指教，我們會檢討改進。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:03:15.869000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:03:37.178000+08:00 |
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第二個問題，上個禮拜臺北地方法院開庭，跟全國的人民公告會開放旁聽，結果有一群人要去法院旁聽，被擋在法院的拒馬外，請問這誰下令的？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:37.839000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-06T11:03:40.840000+08:00 |
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臺北市政府下令的，還是警政署下令的？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:41.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:03:54.506000+08:00 |
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人民到法院旁聽的權利，要進去法院旁聽進不去，讓大家覺得臺北地方法院發的公告是在騙人民嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:54.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-06T11:03:56.807000+08:00 |
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是在臺北地院搞戒嚴嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-06T11:03:56.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:05.431000+08:00 |
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要進去旁聽進不去，當時有人告訴我要進去臺北地方法院旁聽進不去，我問發生什麼事？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:06.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:12.534000+08:00 |
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他說那些要進去旁聽的民眾被警方擋在拒馬外，這件事情部長知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:14.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:04:18.371000+08:00 |
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我知道警方有要做秩序的維護，但是擋在拒馬外…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:18.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:04:23.777000+08:00 |
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秩序的維護是把要旁聽的民眾擋在拒馬外嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:23.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:24.777000+08:00 |
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這我並不清楚，報告委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:23.777000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:24.098000+08:00 |
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這你並不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:24.658000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:33.099000+08:00 |
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好，部長，可不可以回去請教警政署，是警政署下令的，還是臺北市政府下令的？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:33.359000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:35.261000+08:00 |
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我來查一下好嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:35.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:35.861000+08:00 |
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權責要搞清楚。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:37.062000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:39.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
3天之內回復可以嗎？欸…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:39.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:42.486000+08:00 |
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你只是回去問一下警政署誰下令的嘛！不是。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:43.287000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:46.790000+08:00 |
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報告委員，您現在所說的是12月26日的話，那就很快可以告訴您，因為您是問12月26日。 |
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0.71 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:47.751000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:48.631000+08:00 |
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是誰下令的？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:49.232000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:50.353000+08:00 |
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不是，我是說我回去問。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-06T11:04:50.493000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:53.055000+08:00 |
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所以我說你3天之內回復我，可以嗎？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:53.555000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-06T11:04:53.875000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:04:53.875000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:05:22.108000+08:00 |
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之前包括賴清德總統所提的司法院院長被提名人，我在詢答他的過程當中，他直接說我們兩公約多次的國際審查報告都提到集遊法要檢討、要修正，張文貞講的沒有錯。 |
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0.942 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:05:24.116000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:05:44.650000+08:00 |
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帶您看一下投影片整個歷程，我們的政府花大錢請國際審查專家，審查我們的國家報告，每一次請國際審查專家來的時候，他們針對我們的集會遊行惡法，所表達的見解跟困惑是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-06T11:05:45.891000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-06T11:05:46.432000+08:00 |
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表達嚴肅關切。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-06T11:05:47.232000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-06T11:05:47.472000+08:00 |
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集遊法為什麼還沒有過？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-06T11:05:52.329000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:05:59.631000+08:00 |
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第1次的時候是2017年，我們的蔡英文前總統宴請國際審查委員，吃得很好，照片都有出來，大家嘻嘻哈哈的不是為了吃飯，是為了要審查我們的國家報告，最後的結果是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:05:59.631000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:06:27.478000+08:00 |
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看一下2017年，到目前為止，集遊法沒有如專家在《結論性意見與建議》第75點的要求進行修法，這是2017年的報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
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2025-01-06T11:06:28.819000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:06:40.006000+08:00 |
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再看2021年的報告，國際審查專家就看不下去直接問，到底是出於什麼樣的理由還沒有修訂？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-06T11:06:40.006000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-06T11:06:43.168000+08:00 |
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到底是出於什麼樣的理由還沒有修訂？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-06T11:06:43.168000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-06T11:06:51.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
到2022年2月28號的時候，語氣更強烈，立法院還沒有通過的原因到底是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-06T11:06:51.177000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:01.722000+08:00 |
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在這個部分請政府說明，考量到現行法律違反了《公政公約》第二十一條，為何需要六年多的時間來釐清？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.881 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:02.883000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:10.287000+08:00 |
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請教部長，可不可以跟全民講一下，連國際審查專家都看不下去，臺灣到底在幹嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:11.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:07:23.971000+08:00 |
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找我們來審查，2017年的報告就跟你講集遊法要修，修到現在搞了幾年還是沒有修，可不可以請部長釋疑一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:26.672000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:07:35.818000+08:00 |
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報告委員，您所提出的這個部分我們非常清楚，現在集遊法仍然是在內部的審查當中，還沒有送到行政院。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:36.738000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:39.460000+08:00 |
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對阿，所以還沒有通過修正的理由是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:40.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:42.531000+08:00 |
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是行政院延宕嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:42.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:45.053000+08:00 |
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是內政部拖延嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:45.053000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:47.535000+08:00 |
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是行政院擺爛嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:47.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-06T11:07:49.277000+08:00 |
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還是內政部擺爛？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-06T11:07:49.277000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:08:19.940000+08:00 |
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現在我在幫國際審查專家所問的問題，臺灣公民我們大家都很關心，我們的政府說我們要人權立國，我們的政府說我們臺灣簽了ICCPR跟世界人權潮流接軌，國際審查專家請政府說明，考量到現行法律違反了《公政公約》第二十一條，為何需要六年多的時間來釐清？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:22.281000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:40.139000+08:00 |
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國際審查專家請政府說明，我們大家看用我們納稅人的錢，請來國際審查專家提出的問題，我們大家都很關切，但等不到政府一個答案，您今天給的答案是我們還持續在研議中，是這樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:40.139000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:08:43.835000+08:00 |
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是這樣嗎？是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:44.776000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:08:45.496000+08:00 |
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你還要研議多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:46.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:50.018000+08:00 |
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我沒有辦法給委員一個比較明確的方向。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:50.398000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:08:50.999000+08:00 |
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所以繼續拖嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:52.039000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:52.299000+08:00 |
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繼續混嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:53.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:56.601000+08:00 |
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下一次要再找國際審查專家來的時候，可能人家又再問一次，又要再問一次啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.781 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:57.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:58.122000+08:00 |
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這樣子浪費納稅人的錢，找國際審查專家來幹嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:58.222000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:58.562000+08:00 |
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來作秀嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2025-01-06T11:08:58.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2025-01-06T11:08:58.762000+08:00 |
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來作秀嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:12.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:09:18.113000+08:00 |
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國際審查專家問的問題，你們也不回答、事情也不解決，就繼續放著、就繼續放著，這個就是我們現在內政部的態度？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:18.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:18.653000+08:00 |
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這是我們現在內政部的態度喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:18.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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2025-01-06T11:09:18.833000+08:00 |
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繼續研議嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:18.854000+08:00 |
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2025-01-06T11:09:20.375000+08:00 |
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還要研議多久你也不知道，研議到2028年總統改選會不會研議出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:20.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:40.272000+08:00 |
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你也不知道、你也不知道嘛！是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:41.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:41.616000+08:00 |
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2028年會研議出來嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:41.616000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:41.776000+08:00 |
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請教部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:47.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:48.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
2028年會研議出來嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:48.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:49.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
請教部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:49.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:50.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
我無法回應，因為我確實是不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:49.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:51.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你還是沒有辦法回應嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:51.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:52.030000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
因為不夠明確。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:51.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:52.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
所以你當什麼部長嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:52.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:53.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
不夠明確。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:53.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:54.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
你當什麼部長嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:54.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:55.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
不夠明確。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:55.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2025-01-06T11:09:59.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
連一個簡單的集遊法什麼時候弄出來都無法回應！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2025-01-06T11:09:59.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:01.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
表示我們內部有很多不同的聲音，需要…… |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:02.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:05.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
很多不同的聲音，奇怪咧！奇怪！ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:05.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:06.080000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
需要做最好的…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:05.860000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:18.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
當初蔡英文提出這個政治承諾的時候，我從來沒聽到民進黨說什麼內部有很多不同的聲音，欸，奇怪了，換到賴清德的時候，內部有很多不同的聲音喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
黃委員國昌 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:18.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:20.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
兩套標準，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:20.116000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:20.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
謝謝委員的指教。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:20.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:20.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
葉元之、葉元之、葉元之委員不在。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:21.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:28.093143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
登記發言委員除不在場者外，其餘均已發言完畢，詢答結束。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.042 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2025-01-06T11:10:28.393143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2025-01-06T11:10:44.107429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
委員丁學忠、高金素梅、黃建賓所提書面質詢列入紀錄，刊登公報；書面質詢和未及答復部分，請相關單位一週內以書面答復，並副知本會。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0 |