| IVOD_ID |
158641 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158641 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-02T12:18:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-02T12:28:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/186d177ad48e30e543fed7ecac59880cf82bf49b3fbaf4a56a11e77586d9faf35e1aacc5385281515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:18:25 - 12:28:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、請行政院秘書長率同所屬，就行政院所屬人員涉嫌霸凌案件處置情形專題報告並備質詢。二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於大陸委員會單位預算。四、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算書案。五、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人臺港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書案。
備註：本次會議開會時間為上午9時至議程處理完竣） |
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黃總長你好立書長好12月18號我來內政委員會歷經了我人生以來第一次從來沒有發生過的質詢我面對空蕩蕩的備詢台半個人都沒有立書長不在法規會主任委員沈淑飛不在 |
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綜合業務處處長不在全部行政院的官員都不在我第一個問題啊12月18號誰叫你們走的我早上已經有做一些說明就是沒有人叫我走所以你自己走的對我想請問一下主席啊那天你有同意他走嗎 |
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沒有那這個是內政委員會的規矩嗎你沒有同意他走他就自己可以走現在行政院的官員來立法院是橫著走嗎主席沒有同意然後你要走就可以走這個是現在行政院的官員來立法院備詢的態度嗎 |
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是嗎請教民主長我要從頭說明開始如果說我當天來講我八點多就在這邊然後一直沒有開會就是那時候一直所以我才問你嘛是誰要你走的嗎 |
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會議 會議尚未開始你直接回答黃國昭的問題就好黃國昭的問題就好 他問你對 你不是從早開始講嗎所以我才請教主席嘛他沒有同意你走嘛也沒有人叫你走嘛所以我下一個合邏輯的問題就是對現在的行政院來講在立法院來是自己想走就可以走沒有人要你走 |
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主席也沒有准你走但是你自己決定要離開那我的問題就來了因為那時候的狀況會議的狀態不是那麼清楚所以呢不用請示主席嗎會議的狀態不是那麼清楚所以我愛走就可以走嗎可是主席不在等一下等一下先停一下主席他現在怪到你人不在喔他有打電話跟你聯絡嗎沒有而且我跟黃總召也說明一下下午 |
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秘書長我通知他他也回來了回來的時候會議是休息狀態接著馬上要開會了但是他就說休息狀態主席不在他就要走這個就是最大的問題那今天審預算的時候我們中間休息難道秘書長也要走嗎 |
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沒有今天的會議是持續進行所以沒有那樣我現在沒有在問今天的會議啊我一樣啊我請教你的是那一天沒有人要你走主席也沒有准你走然後你就離開了所以我才請教你嘛這個是現在行政院的官員來立法院備詢的時候的態度嗎是這樣嗎如果會議狀態持續的話我們就不會走了什麼叫做會議狀態持續的話有人宣布上會嗎 |
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因為當初我離開了兩點多離開的時候那時候是會議打上的是還沒有開始所以呢所以還沒有開始因為當初的表定是到兩點那場會議下午的時候你有沒有跟張偉聯絡下午的時候後來他那個螢幕上忽然改變了他說這會議已經開始而且現在是休息 |
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那這個跟我的認知跟我離開的時候是有漢格的因為我離開的時候那時候兩點多那時候是會議還沒開始那時候照理說會議如果還沒有開始那這個會議已經結束來我請教一下趙偉下午的時候您跟他聯絡的時候他是怎麼講的他說他馬上回來他也回來啦而且剛剛不是秘書長你回來以後是誰要你走的我說過了是我自己啊 |
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張偉請你回來 你也回來了然後你決定自己要走我現在身不自在我這樣講好了啦我現在在給你解釋的機會那你剛剛的解釋我必須要老實的跟秘書長報告我無法接受 |
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我聽起來昭偉也沒有辦法接受那當然沒有關係啦現在在卓榮泰院長的領導之下行政院的官員大家官威都很大來立法院一副愛來不來我要走就走甚至什麼來來來我們一樣一樣來我們通過了財政收支劃分法你們行政院發言人說什麼 |
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收財化法總預算要重編我說他散播假訊息政府帶頭搞認知作戰他否認他說什麼沒有沒有沒有我是用假設的語氣我說有可能要重編我的實在是發言人喔是用有可能要重編啦來硬拗那如果要看竹誌我們就來看竹誌來看一下那一天 |
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我先講我的立場啦我的行政院發言人搞不清楚狀況自己判斷對社會大眾有可能要從邊是在恐嚇國會還是在恐嚇人民還有臉硬凹喔我們的立場很清楚啊他不下台我清楚地表示我們一定提案發言人是相關的預算 |
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我們一定會大砍我說出去的話我一定會兌現其他黨團支持或不支持我們都尊重但這是我們的立場但結果對於自己釋放假訊息毫無反省繼續出來亂喔我為什麼要繼續出來亂喔他說要調逐治稿說我說他說只是可能甚至需要重編 |
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可能甚至前面是什麼話 來他說呢明年度的總預算本身就會受到嚴重的衝擊來 請問一下明年的預算指的就是2025年今年的預算民主黨受到什麼衝擊了大院審議的結果什麼叫大院審議的結果因為現在在審議現在在審議什麼那個預算啊 總預算 |
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他所講說因為財化法通過所以明年度的預算本身就會受到嚴重的衝擊受到什麼衝擊請說明因為我看不懂啊我完全看不懂啊因為解釋上來講到底那個生效 |
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生效日期以後那個是到底是今年的預算到底是114年預算還是從115年預算開始所以行政院的立場是什麼解釋上有一些行政院的立場是什麼行政院立場上114年數我們不會從編就按照這樣大院審議結果我們依法行政院你行政院不就有立場了嗎你行政院的立場採一套發言人出來講另外一套 |
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行政院發言人的工作是什麼啊是精準的傳遞行政院的政策立場給全台灣社會知道結果你們派出來的發言人不是精準的傳遞行政院的立場是在散播假訊息發言人表達的是說往後也不是只有今年度可能往後等一下等一下他講的是 |
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大家不是在看逐字稿嗎?我就在上面給你看啊!明年度的預算本身就會受到嚴重的衝擊如何受到嚴重的衝擊嘛?什麼叫做我不要生氣?你們行政院發言人可以這樣子出來隨便亂講話?我在給你嚴肅的講這件事情 |
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你在上面跟我耍水皮一次喔我沒有跟你耍水皮一次我說發言人已經對外說明了所以發言人的說明你是接受的是嗎是吧行政院的發言人出來散播假訊息不道歉還硬凹說要看逐字稿說他只是甚至可能那甚至可能前一句是什麼 |
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明年度的預算就會受到嚴重的衝擊 衝擊在哪裡所以我才今天請教你衝擊在哪裡啊你想來給大家聽聽嘛要看審議的結果看什麼審議的結果總預算審議的結果總預算審議的結果跟財政收支劃分法有什麼關係最後不管怎麼樣還是要看立法院審議的結果對啊 那跟財政收支劃分法有什麼關係你有沒有要重編啊你有沒有要重編啊 |
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我有說錯嗎好接下來請第一學中委員 |