| IVOD_ID |
158636 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158636 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-02T11:57:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-02T12:06:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/186d177ad48e30e5933516aa50fe257ef82bf49b3fbaf4a56a11e77586d9faf38c3f6bbd0a8feaf75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:10 - 12:06:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、請行政院秘書長率同所屬，就行政院所屬人員涉嫌霸凌案件處置情形專題報告並備質詢。二、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於大陸委員會單位預算。四、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算書案。五、繼續審查大陸委員會函送財團法人臺港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書案。
備註：本次會議開會時間為上午9時至議程處理完竣） |
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請秘書長羅委員好在我質詢之前我對秘書長剛剛一句談話非常不滿意主席休息你回來看到主席不在你用這個藉口說你可以不出席那立法院其他委員會休息的時候是不是時候首長就可以不出席了是不是這個意思嗎請問秘書長不是 |
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那不是你剛剛講什麼話我剛剛提到的就是說你今天憑什麼不出席主席在主持會議會議沒結束那主席都打電話給你了結果你跟我講說因為主席不在現場主席休息的時間是主席決定是主席的權限我現在開始正式問我的問題我先第一個對你表達一個抗議第二個我想要請教秘書長什麼叫更大的民主我不知道不知道啊賴清德的金句都不知道 |
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我告訴你啦更大的民主就是賴清德啦沒關係你不知道來考考你憲政常識來看民主的大小到底怎麼分請問民進黨破窗攻佔國會癱瘓立法這是大民主還是小民主答不出來 |
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大民主這是更大的民主因為是民進黨做的就是大民主來考你第二個那請問民進黨當家鬧事號召青鳥包圍立法院還有民進黨立委要青鳥衝進來然後鍾佳冰還剪破那個鋸馬鐵籠請問是大民主還是小民主我告訴你啦 我知道你也答不出來啦大民主 |
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因為是民進黨做的就是大民主柯建民說要罷免韓國瑜請問秘書長是大民主還是小民主你一樣答不出來嗎這憲政常識啊 請問韓國瑜怎麼罷免我不太清楚耶 秘書長就教一下這憲政常識啊這個總召講 我覺得應該問沒有 我問你憲政常識 不要管柯建民嘛你看你也要言必稱總召 |
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不分區怎麼罷免啊我所以叫他選國民黨黨主席罷免韓國瑜比較快啊我講什麼道理為什麼他開除韓國瑜的國民黨黨籍不分區資格消除他就是不是院長了所以柯建民連憲法的概念都沒有但是我跟你講一樣還是大民主因為是柯建民講的柯建民說要叫大法官把國民黨解散掉來請問我們偉大的行政院秘書長你支不支持 |
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是不是解散國民黨不可能嘛 不可能嘛謝謝你打臉了柯建民這個我肯定你但是我跟你講你還是錯的因為柯建民說要解散國民黨仍然是最大的民主更大的民主因為是民進黨說的算我再問你大法官違背八成反對廢除死刑的民意做出實質廢死的判決是大民主還是小民主 |
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你也答不出來不過大法官決議是合憲的合憲啦 可是我跟你講過了沒關係 我已經跟很多人賭過了加你一個 加你一個什麼叫實質廢止 我講實質廢止我的實質廢止定義很簡單賴清德5月19號 2028年5月19號卸任的那一天不會有任何死刑犯被執行 你敢跟我賭嗎會不會有死刑犯被執行 我告訴你一個都不會一個都不會有 這就是實質廢止 |
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要不然來賭一下你覺得在金澤總統卸任前有沒有可能我敢啊所以我告訴你不要再為大法官辯解就是實質廢死來我再問一下這個你總要回答出來這是基本民主常識題尹錫悅戒嚴是大民主還是小民主 |
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那後來已經被 這個決議已經被推翻了嘛所以你也反對嘛 對不對他不是大民主也不是小民主他有權力提 但是後來被國會推翻了那他是什麼民主啊 也是民主啊他叫不民主啦 那麼難回答啊但是即便尹錫悅是不民主民進黨立法院黨團的人發文力挺啊所以呢 一樣不民主的尹錫悅又變成大民主了那我最後再問你一個問題 |
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立法院按照多數決 按照我們所選出來的民意三讀通過的法律 請問是大民主還是小民主啊 |
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法院通過的法案當然行政院是要依法行政非常好但是我們還是有一些就事上的我沒有問你後面大家究竟是什麼我還跟你說請問是大民主還是小民主這個是依法行政是不是民主嗎是民主啊謝謝你啊我告訴你又錯了是小民主甚至是不民主因為民進黨只要不高興都是小民主我接下來就要問我們的秘書長啊來來來到底什麼叫大民主啊 |
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今天行政院針對立法院按照民主多數決通過的三法你們要提出複議嘛對不對今天就憲訴法提複議啊你提複議是大民主還是小民主我們依法可以提出來的依法可以提出來 那是大還是小 |
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這個沒有所謂的大小非常好你又打點賴清德什麼叫更大的民主當總統的不如我們行政院秘書長大什麼小啊民主的程序就是民主的程序行政院有權赴議是民主程序的一個環立法院三讀通過法律是立法院多數民主的一個環賴清德是皇帝啊行政院赴議是比立法院更大的民主嗎是嗎是不是 |
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是不是嘛你比較大嘛是嗎沒有沒有這樣謝謝你嘛你剛剛都回答了沒有大小之分啦什麼更大的民主那我接下來想請教啊我直接跟你講啦你們當然也知道啦行政院復議喔因為立法院多數通過法律你進來復議我們也不會讓你復議成功啦那接下來幹嘛釋憲了是不是釋憲是不是 |
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沒有啦 那個還是要經過立法院的程序啊沒關係啦沒關係 我就跟你講就像我剛剛跟你講5月2028年5月19號之前不會有一個一個死刑執行啦我直接跟你斷言嘛那剛剛你也可以證明我錯嘛可以證明我錯嘛時間嘛 十天就證明了嘛十天內就證明了 我就問你喔接下來如果被否決 請問現在要怎麼做 釋憲嗎 |
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希望跟立法院來做溝通好啦好啦你努力你辛苦你努力溝通啦你用更大的民主來跟我們立法院小民主溝通啦立法院很小啦不用擔心直接踩過去碾壓他用更大的民主碾壓就好了有什麼好溝通的賴總統都不溝通的欸賴總統現在溝通過沒有啊 |
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那種說突然今天元旦才突然醒悟說要找韓國瑜來溝通他也沒搞懂欸韓國瑜是立法院院長議事總理其實找他溝通也不是正確的事情要找在野黨主席溝通一個叫做朱立倫一個叫代理黨主席黃國昌啊建議一下啦要展現溝通也不是這樣展現方式啊那我接下來問你嘛要不要示現嘛答不出來啦齁 |
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那個就是立法院附議的結果沒有我告訴你沒關係我這邊就直接說一件事情今天我們的民主走到這個地步立法院的立法委員不是我們個人的意志我們是人民選出來是人民賦予我們的民意我們通過的法律在你賴清德口中叫做什麼 |
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叫做低贱的民族吗你是高贵的民族你是更高大上的民族吗是这样意思吗你不如我们狗明星秘书长啊他直接跟你讲哪有大小之分啊 |
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都是按照憲法底下的民主程序我也不認為行政院附議就比較小哦沒有這回事哦都是憲政程序啊什麼叫更大的民主那我直接問啊請問更大的民主賴清德是在號召民進黨大罷免嗎是宣誓要大罷免嗎還是今天更大的民主賴清德是說要開始展開所謂的全民公投嗎 |
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不管是哪一個程序,仍然是民主程序的一環,也沒有所謂大小之分那我最後要講一件事情,戴金德如果真的要講更大的民主,那如果意思是罷免,大罷免就是真的完全呼應了柯建民一路的主張,民進黨一路的主張就不要再裝了,不要再搞什麼偽公民團體這邊請客吃飯直接民進黨掛黨部的名字出來發動大罷免 |
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至少你今天有氣魄單刀直入清清楚楚明明白白第二個我跟民主黨幫我轉達一下卓榮泰院長請卓榮泰院長轉達一下賴清德總統如果他講的是公投很好請他宣布民進黨不要再黨公投並大選了民進黨自己閹割了公投現在跟我講公投 |
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先回去懺悔十天行政院復議期十天回去懺悔十天再來跟我講公投我告訴你不管罷免公投或者是今天立法院通過的法律乃至於行政院復議大法官釋憲都叫做民主的一環更大的民主不是皇帝不是愛心德 謝謝好 謝謝接下來請張祺凱委員 |
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2025-01-02T11:57:10.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
羅委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:10.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:11.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
在我質詢之前，我要先講我對秘書長剛剛的一句話非常不滿意，主席宣告休息，你回來看到主席不在，你用這個當藉口說你可以不出席，那立法院其他委員會休息的時候是不是所有首長就可以不出席了？ |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:11.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:11.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
請問秘書長，是這個意思嗎？不是。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:36.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:38.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
那不是的話，你剛剛講的是什麼話？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:38.419000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:39.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
我剛剛提到的就是說…… |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:39.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:40.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
你今天憑什麼不出席？ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:41.060000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:48.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
主席在主持會議，會議還沒結束，主席都打電話給你了，結果你跟我講因為主席不在現場。因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:48.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:51.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
主席可以決定休息的時間，這是主席的權限。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:52.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:56.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
我現在要開始正式問我的問題，我第一個是先對你表達一個抗議。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:56.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
第二個，我想要請教秘書長，什麼叫更大的民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
我不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
不知道啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2025-01-02T11:57:58.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:09.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
連賴清德的金句都不知道，我告訴你，更大的民主就是賴清德啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:10.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:14.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
沒關係，你不知道，那我來考考你憲政常識，來看看民主的大小到底怎麼分。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:16.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:20.627000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
請問民進黨破窗攻占國會、癱瘓立法，這是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:20.747000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:20.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
答不出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:24.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:29.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
大民主，這是更大的民主，因為是民進黨做的所以就是大民主。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:30.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:41.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
來，我再考你第二個，請問民進黨當家鬧事，號召青鳥包圍立法院，還有民進黨立委要青鳥衝進來，然後鍾佳濱還剪破那個拒馬、鐵籠，請問這是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:41.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:42.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我告訴你啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:42.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:51.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
因為我知道你也答不出來，這是大民主，因為是民進黨做的所以就是大民主。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.806 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:52.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:52.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
柯建銘說要罷免韓國瑜，請問秘書長，這是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:52.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:52.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
你一樣答不出來嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:52.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:53.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
這是憲政常識，請問韓國瑜要怎麼罷免？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:53.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:53.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
我不太清楚欸！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:54.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:54.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
秘書長，就教一下，這是憲政常識啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:54.536000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:54.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
這個是總召講的，我覺得應該要問總召。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:54.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2025-01-02T11:58:55.357000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
沒有，我問你憲政常識，不要管柯建銘嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2025-01-02T11:58:55.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:20.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
你看，你也要言必稱總召，不分區要怎麼罷免？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:21.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:24.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
所以我叫他去選國民黨黨主席，罷免韓國瑜比較快啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:24.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:24.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
我講的有沒有道理？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:25.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:25.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:25.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:31.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
他開除韓國瑜的國民黨黨籍，不分區資格消除，他就不是院長了，所以柯建銘連憲法的概念都沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:31.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:33.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
但是我跟你講，一樣，還是大民主，因為是柯建銘講的，柯建銘說要叫大法官把國民黨解散掉，請問我們偉大的行政院秘書長，你支不支持？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:48.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:50.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
你支不支持解散國民黨？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:50.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2025-01-02T11:59:50.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
這不可能啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2025-01-02T11:59:50.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:03.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
不可能嘛，謝謝你打臉了柯建銘，這個我肯定你，但是我跟你講，你還是錯的，因為柯建銘說要解散國民黨，仍然是最大的民主、更大的民主，因為是民進黨說的算。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:04.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:13.209000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我再問你，大法官違背八成反對廢除死刑的民意，做出實質廢死的判決是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:15.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:16.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
你也答不出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:16.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:18.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
不過，大法官決議是合憲的。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:19.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:24.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
合憲啦，可是我跟你講過了，沒關係，我已經跟很多人賭過了，加你一個。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:25.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:26.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
什麼叫實質廢死？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:26.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:35.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
我講的是實質廢死，我的實質廢死定義很簡單，賴清德2028年5月19號卸任的那一天，不會有任何死刑犯被執行，你敢跟我賭嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:35.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:35.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
會不會有死刑犯被執行？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:35.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:44.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
我告訴你，一個都不會有，這就是實質廢死，你要不要來賭一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:44.484000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:46.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
你覺得賴清德總統卸任前有沒有可能？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:46.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:47.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
我敢啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:48.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2025-01-02T12:00:51.712000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
所以我告訴你，不要再為大法官辯解，就是實質廢死！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2025-01-02T12:00:52.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:00.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我再問你，這個你總要回答得出來喔，這是基本民主常識題，尹錫悅戒嚴是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:04.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:08.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
他後來已經被……這個決議已經被推翻了。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:08.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:10.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
所以你也反對，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:10.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:12.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
他不是大民主也不是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:12.398000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:14.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
他有權力提，但是後來被國會推翻了。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:14.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:16.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
那他是什麼民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:16.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:17.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
也是民主喔？這是…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:18.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:19.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
他叫不民主啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:19.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:20.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
那麼難回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:20.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:21.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
不是，這是他們民主…… |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:21.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:26.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
但是即便尹錫悅是不民主，民進黨立法院黨團仍然發文力挺啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:27.868000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:32.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
所以一樣，不民主的尹錫悅又變成大民主了。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:32.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:43.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
最後我再問你一個問題，立法院按照多數決，按照我們所選出來的民意三讀通過的法律，請問是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:45.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:48.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
立法院通過的法案，當然行政院要依法行政。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:49.169000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:49.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
非常好。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:49.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:51.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
但是我們還是有一些救濟上…… |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:51.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:54.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
我沒有問你後面的部分，要救濟什麼我再跟你說。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:54.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:55.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
請問這是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:56.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:56.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
這個是依法行政。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:57.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:58.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
是不是民主嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:58.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:59.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
是民主。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2025-01-02T12:01:59.791000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2025-01-02T12:01:59.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
謝謝你啊！對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:00.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:06.753000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我告訴你，又錯了，是小民主，甚至是不民主，因為民進黨只要不高興都是小民主。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:07.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:11.714000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我接下來就要問我們的秘書長，到底什麼叫大民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:12.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:21.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
今天行政院針對立法院按照民主多數決通過的三法，你們要提出覆議，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:21.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:22.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
今天就是憲訴法要提覆議啊！對。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:23.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:25.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
那你提覆議是大民主還是小民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:26.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:28.191000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
那是我們依法可以提出來的。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:28.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:29.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
依法可以提出來的？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:29.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:29.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
那是大還是小？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:31.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:32.088000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
這個沒有所謂的大小，就是依法…… |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:32.508000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:33.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
非常好！ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:33.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:35.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
你又打臉賴清德，什麼叫更大的民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:37.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:40.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
當總統的不如我們行政院秘書長，大什麼小啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:41.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:51.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
民主的程序就是民主的程序，行政院有權覆議是民主程序的一個環，立法院三讀通過法律是立法院多數民主的一個環，賴清德是皇帝啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:52.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:56.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
行政院覆議是比立法院更大的民主嗎？是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:56.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2025-01-02T12:02:56.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2025-01-02T12:02:56.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:00.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們是依法提出。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:00.372000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:00.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:01.532000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:01.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
你比較大，是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:01.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:02.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
沒有，沒有這樣。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:02.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:03.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
謝謝你，你剛剛都回答了，沒有大小之分啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:03.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:03.774000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
什麼更大的民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:03.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
接下來我想請教，我直接跟你講，你們當然也知道啦，行政院的覆議，因為立法院多數通過的法律，你進來覆議，我們也不會讓你覆議成功啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
接下來要幹嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
要釋憲了，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:07.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
要釋憲，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:28.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:32.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
沒有啦，那個還是要經過立法院的程序啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:32.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:32.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
沒關係、沒關係…… |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:32.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:33.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
不能馬上現在說…… |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:32.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:38.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
我就跟你講，就像我剛剛跟你講的，2028年5月19號之前不會有一個死刑執行啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:39.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:47.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
我直接跟你斷言，那你也可以證明我錯嘛，可以證明我錯嘛，10天就證明了嘛，10天內就證明了。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:47.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:51.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
我就問你，接下來如果它被否決了，請問行政院要怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:51.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:51.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
釋憲嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:53.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:56.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
我們還是希望跟立法院來做溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:56.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:57.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
好啦、好啦、好啦…… |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:57.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:58.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我們也可以說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:57.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2025-01-02T12:03:59.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
你努力、你辛苦、你努力溝通啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2025-01-02T12:03:59.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:08.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
你用更大的民主來跟我們立法院小民主溝通啦，立法院很小啦，不用擔心，直接踩過去、輾壓它，用更大的民主去輾壓就好了，有什麼好溝通的？ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:08.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:10.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
賴總統都不溝通的欸，賴總統現在溝通過沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:15.012000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:34.085000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
賴總統在元旦才突然醒悟說要找韓國瑜來溝通，他也沒搞懂，韓國瑜是立法院院長，議事中立，其實找他溝通也不是正確的事情，要找在野黨主席溝通，一個叫做朱立倫，一個就是代理黨主席黃國昌，建議一下，要展現溝通也不是這樣展現方式啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:34.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:35.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
那我接下來問你，要不要釋憲？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:35.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:35.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
答不出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:39.549000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2025-01-02T12:04:40.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
要看立法院覆議的結果，我們才能夠決定。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.412 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2025-01-02T12:04:40.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:01.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
好，我告訴你，沒關係，我這邊就直接說一件事情，今天我們的民主走到這個地步，立法院的立法委員不是我們個人的意志，我們是人民選出來，是人民賦予我們的民意，我們通過的法律，在你賴清德口中叫做什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.988 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:02.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:03.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
叫做低賤的民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:04.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:07.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
你是高貴的民主，你是更高大上的民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:08.316000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:08.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
是這樣的意思嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:09.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:11.761000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
你不如我們龔明鑫秘書長啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:12.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:13.844000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
他直接跟你講，哪有大小之分？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:15.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:25.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
都是按照憲法底下的民主程序，我也不認為行政院覆議就比較小，沒有這回事，都是憲政程序，什麼叫更大的民主？ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:25.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:31.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
那我就直接問，請問更大的民主，賴清德是在號召民進黨大罷免嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:31.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:34.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
是宣示要大罷免嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:34.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:39.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
還是今天更大的民主，賴清德是說要開始展開所謂的全民公投嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:40.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2025-01-02T12:05:44.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
不管是哪一個程序，仍然是民主程序的一環，也沒有所謂的大小之分。 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2025-01-02T12:05:45.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2025-01-02T12:06:09.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
我最後要講一件事情，賴清德如果真的要講更大的民主，如果意思是罷免、大罷免，就是真的完全呼應了柯建銘一路的主張、民進黨一路的主張，就不要再裝了，不要再搞什麼偽公民團體在那邊請客、吃飯，直接掛民進黨黨部的名字出來發動大罷免，至少你今天有氣魄、單刀直入、清清楚楚、明明白白！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2025-01-02T12:06:10.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2025-01-02T12:06:32.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
第二個，請秘書長幫我轉達一下卓榮泰院長，請卓榮泰再轉達一下我們賴清德總統，如果他講的是公投，很好，請他宣布民進黨不要再擋公投併大選了，民進黨自己閹割了公投，現在跟我講公投，先回去懺悔3天啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
羅委員智強 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2025-01-02T12:06:32.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2025-01-02T12:06:49.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
10天好了，行政院覆議期10天，回去懺悔10天，再來跟我講公投，我告訴你，不管是罷免公投或者是今天立法院通過的法律，乃至於行政院覆議、大法官釋憲，都叫做民主的一環，更大的民主不是皇帝、不是賴清德！謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2025-01-02T12:06:49.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2025-01-02T12:06:49.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
好，謝謝，接下來請張啓楷委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.833 |