| IVOD_ID |
158611 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158611 |
| 日期 |
2025-01-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-01-02T10:11:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-01-02T10:23:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/186d177ad48e30e5384165f935fd51455efe2b3915ec92638d75bdfb612c74e0b0f568547c5b28c35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:11:29 - 10:23:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-01-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長報告「推動『二軌外交』與『元首外交』（含『繁榮南島智慧永續』出訪專案與友邦合作計畫）及近期外交出訪之成效」，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝林昭偉 麻煩部長請林部長來 部長我今天準備的正題以前正題之前剛好我接到一個民眾剛從剛過我們的海關進到台灣來他有一個問題那你不用現在有答案我是說了解一下他說回台灣的時候以前都會聽到歡迎歸國 |
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那個好像被改掉了然後呢自動通關的語音呢變得好像中國腔調一樣是不是我們買的機子 灌的東西裡面的sourcing出了問題我不確定因為這是民眾剛才我在上台前接到的申請我讓外交部的同仁了解一下查看看啦因為以前回到台灣聽到歡迎歸國 |
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還蠻好的然後我覺得腔調因為來到台灣是我們國家的門面我們來跟淘機還有移民署還有海關我們現在很多漁民有一段時間是out sourcing到印度那個腔就會像印度腔我現在不曉得是不是有out sourcing或者它裡面灌的東西出問題麻煩你了解一下那我回來問第一個題目在 |
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我們之前跟美方的各級的政要包含州長包含跟甚至於是美國參眾議會的重量級的參眾議員兩黨都有都有提到這個避免雙重科稅的立法當時得到的答案 |
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都在國會重量級的意見領袖都說這個他們認為該做在台灣跟美國的投資者避免雙重瞌睡對投資有益所以這個是對台灣對美國都有好處的 |
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那當時說因為正在他們在總統大選所以搞不好選舉結束之後這一屆期因為他們快到期了屆期前能不能完成所以我第一個先請教部長避免雙重科稅這件事情對台灣來講有什麼效益很重要因為在遊說這個嘛總是要有效益嗎請說 |
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因為我想投資跟貿易是連動的以台積電去投資周邊的供應鏈要去這麼多的投資如果有雙重瞌睡我想這個一定會影響到美國去投資所以這對美國有不利對台灣來講我們要雙重瞌睡當然也是很不利所以沒有反對的意見現在是說本來要走的路徑因為從眾議院到參議院 |
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但是因為選舉的關係或者現在因為會期嘛這個法案要另外提這一屆結束的話因為他們眾議院就兩年一次對就要全部重來耶對所以有沒有可能在因為這個對我們在墨西哥北部我上次看到統計是大概350家製造業者其實是有影響的對於投資美國甚至於我們我們在海外佈局經商的台商也是有影響的因為那個稅率很高 |
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你估計目前的進度有沒有可能在這個會期把它完成現在就是說這個新的會期啦如果開始他們是不是用所謂的快速的那個管道最後一個MegaPage他們如果同意的話其實是可以啟動就是說算是比較是綠色通 |
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有沒有這樣的我們現在接觸的參眾院的兩院是有國會議員有這個提議啦就我們9月到11月去了解起來有部分的共和黨的參議員有一點意見可是他本身州的州長來到台灣我們溝通之後他回去說那是他的body body回去溝通一下所以目前看起來反對意見不多而且共識很高對美國甚至於對川普來講增加美國就業機會也是有幫助對台灣 |
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證明我們跟美國之間的重要夥伴關係其實它也有外交政治上的利益所以是不是部長或編寫師到底這一個避免雙重瞌睡目前它真正的狀況進度有沒有可能在這一屆的美國國會完成立法 |
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很有機會啊因為大家都知道他的重要性跟急迫性嘛那現在就是因為新的政府開始包括國會開議能不能用比較最簡 |
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變的程序去讓參眾兩院能夠快速來審查還有放在快速立法律社通關的有這個提議當然還要看所以我們覺得看起來沒有反對的意見就是怎麼樣去做立法程序我們現在lobby的工作做得怎麼樣 |
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我看到的電報或者是我本身的接觸沒有反對的意見那也都應該是越快越好所以國長跟北美司長有信心來 北美司長這是別國在決定進度我們不能隨便有信心就是我們的理解是目前這個案子還是有兩黨跨黨派的一個支持的共識所以在這個新一屆的國會開議之後我們一定是你這樣又跑到下一屆重新重來了 |
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因為這一屆的那個已經結束了所以一定是下一屆1月份開始開一支我們很怕有時候到下一屆又開始丟一些新的就丟了一些條文什麼的然後又開始討論然後兩年又到了目前都有積極的跟兩黨的議員在溝通那目前看起來這個支持也都還是在這邊的這個案子過的話其實對我們外交部長來講你的工具箱裡面多了一個工具 |
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而且對川普的政策上來講兩邊其實是互利的那另外我們跟美方簽的BTA就是台美這個21世紀貿易倡議這個BTA就外交部的評估因為川普很不喜歡FTA他連WHO都想退出了這一個從TIFA到美台21世紀的貿易倡議所謂的BTA會不會有變數 |
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因為它這個是美台21世紀貿易倡議它有12項它是分主要三個階段那個階段已經通過First Agreement那第二階段事實上三家一個項目也談得差不多其中只有一個項目當時還有一點就是還要再協商 |
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至於說新的總統上任他對這個事情的看法他的USTR還有相關人事的佈局我們大概也有一定的判斷都是友善不過他的agenda是不是放在前面因為這裡面還沒有涉及到市場准錄直接的關稅的問題坦白講這個PTA還沒有碰到所謂的關稅 |
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所以這個就是一個去健全化一個比較全面的經濟的一個合作的架構我這樣詮釋對不對這一個BTA台美之間的BTA目前已經有了大概沒有什麼變化但是想要再往前還要往前進一步還有待觀察對這樣詮釋對啦但是我意思是說我們在拜登政府任內已經談到第二階段 |
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除了一項還需要最後的協商其他已經都有共識那因為行政部門雖然是總統是新的這個他的政策的Priority或Agenda我們還要再了解以外但基本上大家對於台美之間這個把21世紀貿易倡議來推動是有共識只是說這個會拖多久川普政府上任之後三個大項一個是國土安全部對邊境的管理 |
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一個是對外外交的政策要強化夥伴自我保衛的能力的責任第三個就是經貿經貿是他在選舉當中非常非常重要的政策而這個經貿一個不小心 |
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有可能變保護主義一個不小心可能會讓全球這個recession會提早來所以這個我會提醒因為你現在講的是統合外交經貿跟外交其實這要一起看所以我問下一個有關呂宋經濟狼帶 |
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呂宋經濟狼帶我聽部長提了幾次經濟部也提了幾次可是裡面有兩個我坦白講重中之重一個是美國政府一個是日本政府美日政府跟小馬可市政府在呂宋島不管是四個軍事基地不管是港口的建設不管是造船業的進駐或者台灣相關的不管是石化業 |
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發電的能源業或者是比較低階的半導體業這整塊餅 |
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呂宋經濟狼帶其實這兩個captain很重要可是我們現在面臨的是石破內閣換新的內閣換新的內閣了而且它是一個minority算是少數內閣然後呢川普政府取代拜登政權也更迭了所以我必須請教部長有關呂宋經濟狼帶就你們目前的評估是為民還是繼續 |
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還是有可能這個要Drop it 要丟掉了它是這樣子啦 是在G7的架構下 因為要對抗一帶一路嘛那這個由美日 針對菲律賓有這個所謂旅送經濟狼帶的一個計畫那包括投資 還有一些建設那我們不是G7 但是我們認為說可以以這個為基礎台灣可以扮演一些角色 |
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這個是平行可是至於台灣人們參加呂宋經濟總監具體的計畫這要case by case來看也要對我們有利嘛我們能夠貢獻的那應該說那個架構是在的那項目也已經他們已經在形成其實從今年初到現在 |
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呂宋島的軍事基地跟台海安全跟巴士海峽控管息息相關呂宋經濟狼帶所要發展的產業跟台灣息息相關所以跟台灣坦白講這個比IPEF重要比IPEF重要他比較具體那這麼具體的東西的狀況下如果因為我們重要的民主盟友內部的發生變化這個案子 |
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走不下去的話 我覺得我們外交部跟經貿部門有責任要去了解這是兩個層次 我跟委員講一個是當然美日非的層次嘛 旅眾經濟狼帶但是台非也可以形成經濟狼帶尤其是我們的大南方計畫現在又有大南方這個大細股 |
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640.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
642.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
我們跟菲律賓之間的合作有風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
656.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
675.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
他的總統是一任的換了總統之後政策不延續投資跟相關的保障會有什麼樣的情形所以透過多邊的特別是美日這樣的G7強國建構的架構簽的合約對我們台商對我們台灣政府來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
676.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
702.173 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
保障的程度會比較高啦那台非要發展當然有另外一條路可以走所以因為我時間到了我特別提醒不過我也跟委員補充說明我們台美之間也有EPPD台美經濟這個這個夥伴的對話那也就是針對第三國那我想台美之間也都認為跟菲律賓合作是我們的重點對因為這幾個國家第一島鏈國家現在政治上都有一些新局面美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
704.417 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
727.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
也有一些新局面其實歐盟也有一些政權更迭的情形所以當我們台灣在發展對外經貿外交的時候這些更迭的情形要很審慎仔細的去觀察而且要建立多層次的而不是只依靠一個方向否則一旦沒有就沒有了那我們可能努力了三五年的東西瞬間化為泡影這個提醒外交部那我們希望後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
728.146 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
735.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
也許這個我們可以做個專案報告了好不好好 謝謝現在行政院經濟外交工作小組也有針對這部分在進行 |