| IVOD_ID | 158527 | 
        
        | IVOD_URL | https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158527 | 
        
        | 日期 | 2024-12-30 | 
        
        | 會議資料.會議代碼 | 聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1 | 
        
        | 會議資料.會議代碼:str | 第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 | 
        
        | 會議資料.屆 | 11 | 
        
        | 會議資料.會期 | 2 | 
        
        | 會議資料.會次 | 1 | 
        
        | 會議資料.種類 | 聯席會議 | 
        
        | 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] | 19 | 
        
        | 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] | 36 | 
        
        | 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] | 經濟委員會 | 
        
        | 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] | 司法及法制委員會 | 
        
        | 會議資料.標題 | 第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 | 
        
        | 影片種類 | Clip | 
        
        | 開始時間 | 2024-12-30T14:06:25+08:00 | 
        
        | 結束時間 | 2024-12-30T14:12:09+08:00 | 
        
        | 影片長度 | 00:05:44 | 
        
        | 支援功能[0] | ai-transcript | 
        
        | video_url | https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e085e3a26ab4ac550983be44f6eda3de937188e395e503a22311aaf748057b52845ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 | 
        
        | 委員名稱 | 鍾佳濱 | 
        
        | 委員發言時間 | 14:06:25 - 14:12:09 | 
        
        | 會議時間 | 2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 | 
        
        | 會議名稱 | 立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單,李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員,林慶堂為委員,請同意案。) | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[0].text | 主席在場的委員先進列席的包括被提名人、機關代表我想底下我們就請紅被提名人我來跟您做一個請教 | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[1].text | 紅委員您好,因為你是現任委員還是稱紅委員。是,謝謝。我瞭解你去年出了一本書叫做《隱藏的說客》,是嗎?是。是的。好,那請教一下,公平會是合議制你剛剛有說了。對。那請問你們在做出一個處分決定的時候,會不會有類似大法官的部分同意意見書或不同意見書? | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[2].text | 有,我們有這個...會具名是哪位委員?什麼意見?對,然後會隨案公布所以對於委員,過去你既然是現任委員,您的看法如何?不只表達在你過去公平會的一些決定上你的同意或不同意見書,也表達在你的書中隱藏的碎刻那我今天底下有三件事情要跟你就教 | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[3].text | 就是第一是關於公平交易委員會你對於這個機關屬性和他的目的的了解第二個呢我想透過最近一個事件就是WhoPanda跟UberEat公平會做出了決定那這個決定在反映出你們公平會對自我任務跟機關角色的認知第三個最近我們看到立法院有很多很多挾國會多數提出的法案讓我們都為之瞠目結舌比如說 | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[4].text | 請問你所知道的目前NCC是不是獨立機關?是 | 
        
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        | transcript.whisperx[5].text | 主心是不是跟公平會一樣是獨立機關?是你了解NECC過去在它的組織法當中有一個當繼任委員、新任委員未提出未能就任時原任委員繼續延任的規定嗎?我知道那請問公平會目前有這樣的規定嗎?有 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[6].start | 128.723 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[6].end | 147.097 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[6].text | 那目前有立法院有提出修法,要把這個規定改掉,讓跟NCC一樣,就是新任委員會產生之前就任委員,到任後就下任那你認為以公平會的角色來講,如果比照NCC這樣做,會對公平會的獨立機關的角色和你們運作的任務有什麼影響? | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[7].start | 148.601 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[7].end | 174.606 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[7].text | 謝謝委員那個詮詢就第三個問題我的看法是當然我們希望一切這個提名當然就是說希望獲得歸院的這個同意跟贊同那讓那個獨立機關的運作而不致中斷那另外是因為這兩個機關獨立機關它各有七位委員包括主委、副主委當然都是基數嘛就是說因為能夠做那如果有委員確認不能夠及時的補任那麼對於你們機關的運作會有影響嗎 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[8].start | 178.577 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[8].end | 179.36 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[8].text | 目前你們還是有不中斷條款 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[9].start | 183.462 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[9].end | 206.905 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[9].text | 那沒有錯就是說這個目前公民會的這個組織法那當然是說這個構辦委員這個出席那如果說只剩4名委員還可以做出一個公民會應有的職權行使嗎目前目前我所知目前人事總局的這個解釋是如此是可以的那萬一未來你們的不中斷條款被修改了那麼只剩下不全額的委員能夠運作嗎 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[10].start | 209.37 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[10].end | 221.265 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[10].text | 按照目前的那個規定我未來如果比照NCC不中斷條款拿掉了那有委員缺額的時候能運作嗎事實上會做很大的影響那不能運作會有什麼影響 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[11].start | 222.962 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[11].end | 250.2 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[11].text | 基本上很多的這個決定都可能無法作演很好那對於我們目前公平會回到第一個題目公平會的機關使命是什麼?任務是什麼?我想最重要的是那個促進市場有效競爭就是所謂的教育秩序另外是消費者的權益記得我看過你隱藏的說客這本書那請問一下在FuPenta跟UberEat的這個決定上假如因為現在因為公平會因為確認不能夠做出決定 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[12].start | 250.84 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[12].end | 274.762 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[12].text | 那你覺得以這個個案來講假設的情況會出現什麼影響這個合併案實施不能做決定會有什麼影響我相信那個還是可能會通過直說他的正當性恐怕有所不足如果因為你們的不中斷條款被比照NC改掉了那麼你們在確認的情況之下做出的重大的處分案會讓申請 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[13].start | 277.642 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[13].end | 278.262 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[13].text | 本席置會提出詢問 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[14].start | 304.952 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[14].end | 329.345 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[14].text | 主要是說要確認你們原任委員對於NCC的機關使命跟任務和他對社會的作用跟影響很清楚的了解也了解到對於你們剛作出處分的案件他們社會上的認知是如何、評價如何最重要即將要登場的修法對會會會產生什麼影響我們未來的被提名人如果擔任委員應該要有足夠的心理準備有嗎?有 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[15].start | 330.626 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[15].end | 342.045 | 
        
        | transcript.whisperx[15].text | 好那我們希望呢你能夠順利的通過提名審查也希望未來NCC不對應該說是公平會能夠繼續的耽誤他的使命為了社會我們公平交易的秩序能夠繼續運作好謝謝 |