| IVOD_ID |
158521 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158521 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T12:04:10+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T12:15:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e023287f85572e82f77ba98e9ef8f04f2c5ada2b19569a09cc50b48a977d456e315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:04:10 - 12:15:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於客家委員會及所屬部分。二、審查客家委員會函送財團法人客家公共傳播基金會114年度預算書案。三、繼續審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於中央選舉委員會及所屬單位預算。
【本次會議時間為上午9時至議程處理完竣。】） |
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主委你知道我們板橋區多少客家人嗎? |
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8時至9時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時至11時 |
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但是沒有提出一個對都會客家一個比較完整的政策然後甚至於補助我認為都對我們雙北就是都會客家補助其實都不夠啦剛剛徐慶偉有提到啦疫苗季本來110年的時候疫苗季是補助我們新北市400萬那113年剩100萬桐花季110年的時候是補助250萬那現在是剩140萬 |
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為什麼會這樣子啊就是說好像對於我們客家都會客家的部分補助越來越少在舉辦活動方面因為我們新北市移民祭是傳統各家非常大的活動我每年都有去那個在內活動裡面所有的客家社團一起參與 |
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然後各我們新北的各界的客家的一些前輩也都會來大家非常開心這是一個很大盛會就感覺好像客會不是那麼支持啊現在的預算只剩下以前的四分之一這為什麼會這樣啊 |
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議員報告兩部份,一部份是因為合育費推薦的安党員一來一党員瞭解客家文化、氣氛客家文化及參議客家文化故所以一來一多團體、團、法庭、國體、國研司政府要接近、要輔助我們一定會聽訴所以安党的情況底下因為我們的依算有限 |
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所以分批下落的也緊批至於...沒有,不好意思,我不能接受這樣說法啦因為你的講法是說因為太多人辦活動經費有限所以我就把這些旗艦型的活動把它減少沒有人是這樣子搞的啦工廠客家活動大的活動旗艦型活動都要維持嘛你寧可把餅分給大家隨便讓大家去弄反而不讓說有一個旗艦型的活動讓大家真正可以參與客家文化我非常不贊同你這樣做法啦 |
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二、我們都會客家其實面對到客語的推廣更重要為什麼?因為像傳統客庄他們有那個比較好的客語環境嘛但我們比如說以我們板橋來講他是都市比較都會區的大家分散在各個地方所以客語會在今年今年有一個預算500多萬給新北市是做客語家庭嘛為什麼明年沒有了?還忙審查還忙審查會補助多少?還忙 |
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審查我知道嘛但是審查你是要先提提你要編多少預算要幫他審查你要編多少?先不提客家行業家庭的部分我會用力我會慶賓新北很用力我知道我現在說客會不用力多少?因為我們行業家庭跟行業層間幾乎並窮下位所以他沒有另外的擔策下來什麼並列 |
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下午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時至上午11時 |
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明年變390萬至增加78萬但是我們今年113年的客與家庭計畫是564萬所以你把我們的564萬取消了增加78萬到客與深耕計畫 |
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你覺得那個比例會不會差太多?因為新北市不知道你把客語家庭計劃把它取消了嘛新北市客語家庭找了一千多個不是你沒有經費補助嘛多少嘛多少嘛你現在就講嘛 |
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三百九十幾萬,三百九十幾萬是克里申根計劃嘛! |
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欸欸欸你是主委你的資料還沒有我詳細喔你現在是客語深耕計畫我知道啊390萬啊但是今年本來就有312萬的客語深耕計畫啊所以實際上今年明年只比今年多78萬嘛可是今年有編一個客語家庭計畫 |
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五百六十四萬嘛!就是有嘛!這數字就是少了五百多萬啊!不要鬼打槍好不好! |
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就少500多萬嘛我現在是拿數字跟你講嘛那500多萬去哪裡了我們的移民記憶也被減少了我們的童話記憶也被減少了我們今年的客語家庭計畫500多萬沒有了然後客語深耕計畫多78萬那個是深耕計畫我講的是客語家庭計畫不要給我在那邊 |
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我講是客與家庭計畫客與家庭成立了一千多個很多家庭報名參加然後新北市政府也配套鼓勵他們多講母語然後讓他們參加活動然後弄了很多有關的配套方案結果忽然間客委會把這500多萬取消了然後再升任計畫多了78萬然後就說這個是客家家庭計畫然後主委講半天你就是沒有告訴我這多的500多萬為什麼新北市客家人60幾萬 |
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不是客家人嗎?我跟委員報告齁,我從頭講經驗以前行為家庭跟尋經基金會那兩位基金會明年以後兩位合協和協同來申請基金會我知道,背頭申請就是390萬嘛就是390萬嘛不要再鬼打牆了錢就是少很多,你現在是講說新北市政府沒有來申請是不是? |
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還沒有審查到其他計劃還是說其實實際上你們跟他們講說沒有那個母語計劃你們不知道他們不知道說客語家庭計劃並到深耕計劃有確定我得到的消息不是這樣喔那如果說今天你透過這樣的一個質詢過程你講說喔還有錢新北市可不可以繼續來申請 |
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全體委員會及所屬單位預算書案關於中央政府總預算案關於中央政府總預算案關於中央政府總預算案關於中央政府總預算案 |
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因為主委因為新北市政府的人現在不在這邊但是沒關係就我跟你的對答你的講法是說是他們沒有來申請所以給的這麼少嘛但是我得到消息不是這樣我得到消息是說客委會你把那個計畫取消那沒有關係啦 |
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那你已經承諾了嘛今天只要新北市政府認為有需要比如說客與家庭他還可以來申請嗎是不是這個意思嗎有需求就可以申請嘛那今年跟明年比其實是客委會目前是少補助500多萬嘛所以他還有很大空間可以申請嗎這主委你直接承諾就可以了嘛 |
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因為我來自於地方我們要幫地方爭取預算你如果願意承諾我我覺得就OK啦沒什麼要跟你吵的啊是不是?沒有錯沒有錯那我們會跟新北市講說對跟新北市講說可能你們你們中央地方政府溝通之間有問題啦應該是有問題啦應該是應該是有問題啦應該是有問題啦因為我得到的消息不是這樣不過沒有關係我們不用去吵這些我們把事情做好就好 |
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那基本上你願意再多給我們500多萬我覺得謝謝你啊我代替我們新北市的對就這個地方如果願意申請你願意給嗎就是這樣子嘛然後另外就是藝名祭跟童話祭啦我希望說你可以維持我們旗艦行的活動啊400萬的活動你只補出100萬這是最大的活動這個是讓客家文化大家一起在一起嘉年華式的活動結果你只給100萬好像很看不起這個活動我非常不能接受啦 |
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563.2 |
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584.155 |
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我根本不能接受啦你可能坐在冷氣房裡面啦不了解地方啦所以就隨便給100萬100萬給你們你們能辦就能辦不能辦就算了但是這個對我們來說很重要希望你改變你的思維這是旗艦行活動每一個機關每一個縣政府都有一個大型的活動地方的節慶那以客家來講在我們新北市就是藝名節 |
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585.65 |
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605.147 |
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他的重要性不是像你講的啦,我們錢就這樣隨便給一給,我覺得我不太能接受這樣的講法。每個地方,每個地方,由他的接近的法律,或是針對接近法律,投射的位分都投一些的啦。多少給一?以前是400萬嘛,你上任之後就剩100萬嘛。你跟其他的主委都不一樣啦。 |
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606.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
607.894 |
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我現在跟你講你當時全面很涼但是之前400萬現在100萬 |
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646.117 |
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就是在主委的任內啦,把我們砍到剩這麼少啦。你砍到成這樣,我們新北市被你這樣子欺負,實在是我覺得很誇張啦,謝謝。也沒有啦,因為在新北市的全體委員會一來一到,但是可以看到我們在家庭、泥沿、鳳眠、貴庶市所以也不會講得到。反正結果就是這樣嘛,你就聽不進別人講的嘛,謝謝。 |
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653.362 |
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