| IVOD_ID |
158517 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158517 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T11:43:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T11:55:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e0717367f89393f27e4f10c035d50fc648d9c2d0a04e685e498e7165f4ad3413885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:34 - 11:55:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院龔秘書長明鑫、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲就「行政院表示：因財劃法修正，114年度總預算須重編」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【113年12月30日及114年1月2日二天一次會】） |
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請請副秘書長叫主計長委員好我看了行政院這幾天還有特別是主計長你今天提出來你說以後被衝擊而且有可能會減少的八個面向我看了我真的是非常的難過我問問為什麼開始我的質詢是我們都摸著良心 |
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摸著良心希望我們的心都還是好的如果心壞掉了就變成壞人了就變成壞心的人了今天主計總處提了三檢的八個項目包括說可能會影響到民眾的就醫前線影響到癌症的癌由 |
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喊病等民眾使用心藥跟護理人員的獎勵還有影響到勞工的勞退基金這種錢你砍得下去嗎?主規定你是決定優先順序哪些不當的錢我們如果要把減少錢是不是有腐爛的、浪費的、不當的、有弊案的先砍對不對你怎麼會提個八個面向 |
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刀刀砍向的是我們生病的人是勞工?這咁好心美人?你是好心的主計長還是壞心的主計長? |
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你的心還好嗎?沒有壞掉?報告委員我們整個114年的預算是3兆1那扣除依法律15就是1兆8那剩下1兆3那1兆3的各項項目如果我們以目前還沒有經過檢討原則上是平均減就是各項減28%那是不是哪些項目不減必須經過討論之後開會討論之後再開會這一次規定我說到問你嘛 |
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你怎麼去砍生病人的錢、該用的錢、薪料的錢、砍勞工的錢還講什麼?可能為了連毒品跟打仗,你意思是說錢沒夠?你連毒品都不要再查了嗎?打仗都不要了嗎?你這是威脅人民 |
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如果以國防預算來講,國防預算如果不減那我這樣子我其他就必須相對所有全部提高要到3減37%所以蘇珂婷我都要提起你嘛,我們兩個我在執行,你的回答是你都摸著良心嘛你是要決定哪些不當的、腐爛的、弊案的要刪掉嘛對不對不要去刪到國防 |
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會不夠嗎?現在立法院正在審啊可以啊有幾個方法可以解決錢不夠的問題嘛 |
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你有足夠的錢財政變好了這幾年每一年政府財政都超生啊今年超生多少五億一千萬五千一百億對不對至少中央分的有三千多億啊你可以追加預算這是第一把錢增加了第二個減少不當的嘛我來跟你講什麼叫不當的來我們看一下當要犧牲人民的這個權益的時候還有關聯自己的福利的時候我們來看一下 |
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有一筆錢叫特別費我看了一下明年度所有關聯的特別費編了超過1億629萬以上這筆錢要做什麼用?供首長招待或者饋贈嘛 |
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你把人民的醫療把人民的退休錢都砍了為什麼不先回來砍自己人民的醫療退休還是你的福利比較重要這一億是不是就該砍的如果你真的要砍到人民我公開倡議今年我們現在在審的明年度所有的首長的特別費從總統開始特別是總統跟行政院長中通戶 |
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三八百年特別會．行政院四八五十年特別會．各部會一直到首長的都有特別會．這個你還去做什麼饋贈跟招待．請什麼課．送什麼紅包．人民醫療都被你們砍掉了．這筆錢明年114年全砍．第二個我們再看下一個新聞 |
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一部發布一個新的任命案中央巡產會的董事長數字會不會去接?主計長你知道他一年的薪水多少?30萬1個月30萬年薪600萬你年薪多少?他比你還多欸一個中央巡產會當署定 |
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僅離開了罷班而且這個是本來是無幾子的耶以前要嘛就是農業部的次長要嘛就是市長會的司長以前人民不用再花一毛錢的名子名高為零送錢開戲僅離開了罷班這個錢要不要砍?是這問題的這個新工作這個錢能留著嗎?我更要問從整個結構面來看 |
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政府有多少國營事業?有多少財團法人?多少基金?幾百個啊!不只中央稀產會的這個董事長的錢要砍啊!這些很多弊案的但會名子名高的特別是他本來有什麼績效可以領這麼多錢?主席來我做個倡議 |
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報告委員 這個國營事業和基金他不在我們3753億裡面喔 |
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議員主席 |
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而且才符合公平啊憑什麼國營事業董事長什麼系長會董事長比你薪水還高大概是你的三倍對不對你錢也兩百萬而已啊他憑什麼拿六百萬而且不是一個中央系長會有多少國營事業董事長多少基金會的董事長拿的比你還多多了兩三倍前面去檢討另外你要砍人民最近啊 |
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光是台電的這個錢我砍了火力發電的錢250億你現在把核電廢掉了結果你一直在燒煤燒煤不是民進黨政府的政策嗎以前國民黨政府到民進黨都說燃煤要減少就燃煤還是一直燒還是什麼賣掉電廠這個燃煤電廠還一直買電 |
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上海人民的健康還多花錢250億金銀就砍了一樣啊114年至少砍500億啊怎麼沒錢所以要有哪些錢要錢不過的 |
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要嘛就是你主計總處、行政院你去把剛剛一路講下來的腐爛、不該花的錢的、不當的錢你腐爛你看水電費今年的水電費變80億已經被罵臭頭了每年還編輯了110億、101億還給20億的出來這21億不用砍掉嗎?人民會同意你說你要增加這21億嗎?這是不是腐爛? |
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響鐘 |
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所以我今天摸著良心問話你也摸著良心回答我你如果是一個有良心的主計長請你回去檢討腐爛浪費的、不當的、弊案的包括我剛剛講的如果是你要砍人民的醫療 |
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斬他的退休金請你們先從砍自己開始從總統跟行政院難到各個部會各個國運社董事長開始做起好不好你們自己都沒有沒有砍自己的福利了憑什麼去砍人民的錢人民的健康人民的退休金好不好現在有幾個解決方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
616.483 |
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639.043 |
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其實啦你已經說不重編了嘛對不對明年不重編了嘛對不對事實上這個應該財劃法這次的修正應該真正實施也應該是後年吧對不對那你有一年的時間你還要檢討我剛剛講的好不好我們謀著良心我只有要減這三千億第一個要減三千億不成問題我剛剛一路練下來減三千億太容易了我這國會會事務的記者照顧啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
642.691 |
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667.886 |
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有多少的預算本來就是檢討以後人民是有掌聲的欸以前總統薪水多少從陳水扁當立法委員我當記者我就開始追這個錢我們以前總統是一個月是84萬欸威權時代我們以前是威權時代是強人所以我們總統薪水很高啊你在陳水扁當總統薪水砍一半欸降到從84降到42以前財政部長一定知道 |
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669.11 |
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以前你們這些所長的薪水有公費跟稅費一半不用繳稅對不對後來不就改了嗎改全部要繳稅啊合理啊國庫至少增加了一億以上啊你去做這些改革嘛你才是一個好心的主計長也是一個有改革的主計長嘛我今天看了老蔣你們不要再講這個各個部會輪流出來該記者會啊主計總是說要砍這八項這八大項每一項都砍在人民身上欸 |
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700.986 |
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704.391 |
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請把人民放心上,我們希望我們都做一個有良心的人,拜託一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:43:46.699000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2024-12-30T11:43:53.880000+08:00 |
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先請副秘書長及主計長。 |
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0.8 |
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李副秘書長國興 |
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2024-12-30T11:43:53.880000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:43:54.040000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2024-12-30T11:43:54.040000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:43:57.741000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:43:57.741000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:44:16.332000+08:00 |
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就行政院這幾天提出的，特別是主計長今天提了以後被衝擊而且有可能會減少的八個面向，我看了真的是非常地難過，我希望從現在開始我們質詢的時候，大家都能摸著良心。 |
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0.75 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:44:18.594000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:44:27.441000+08:00 |
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希望我們的心都還是好的，如果心壞掉了，就變成壞人了，就變成壞心的人了。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:44:29.423000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:44:55.340000+08:00 |
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今天主計總處提了刪減的八個項目，包括可能會影響到民眾的就醫權益、影響到癌症的癌友、罕病等民眾使用新藥跟護理人員的獎勵，還有影響到勞工的勞退基金，這種錢你砍得下去嗎？ |
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0.908 |
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張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2024-12-30T11:44:55.340000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:09.950000+08:00 |
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主計長，你要決定優先順序，如果要減少錢，是不是有浮濫的、浪費的、不當的、有弊案的先砍，對不對？ |
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0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:45:09.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:18.677000+08:00 |
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你怎麼會提這八個面向，刀刀砍向的是我們生病的人、是勞工，這是好心的人嗎？ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-12-30T11:45:19.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:21.440000+08:00 |
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你是好心的主計長，還是壞心的主計長？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:45:24.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:25.499000+08:00 |
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主計長，你的心還好嗎？ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:45:25.499000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:25.679000+08:00 |
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沒有壞掉嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-12-30T11:45:25.859000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-12-30T11:45:48.911000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們114年整個預算是3兆1,000億，扣除依法律義務1兆8,000億，就剩下1兆3,000億，1兆3,000億的各項項目，如果我們以目前還沒有經過檢討，原則上是平均減，就是各項減28%，至於哪些項目不減，必須經過開會討論後來決定。 |
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0.814 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:45:49.091000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:13.819000+08:00 |
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主計長，我剛才有問你，你如果是一個有心、把人民放在你的心上的人，你怎麼會去砍生病的人的錢、該用的錢、新藥的錢、砍勞工的錢，而且還講連毒品跟打詐都有影響，你的意思是錢不夠，連毒品都不要再查了嗎？ |
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0.553 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:13.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-12-30T11:46:15.339000+08:00 |
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打詐都不要查了嗎？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:15.339000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:16.339000+08:00 |
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至少都要減，一般原則上要減三成。 |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:15.339000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:15.839000+08:00 |
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你這是在威脅人民！ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:20.600000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:32.362000+08:00 |
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如果以國防預算來講，國防預算如果不減，其他相對的，所有、全部都必須予以提高，要刪減到37%。 |
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0.789 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:32.362000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:37.883000+08:00 |
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主計長，我剛才有提醒你，我在質詢，你在答復，你都要摸著良心。是。 |
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0.269 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:37.883000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:43.984000+08:00 |
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你要決定哪些不當的、浮濫的、弊案的，要刪掉，對不對？ |
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0.905 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:43.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:44.984000+08:00 |
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但是那些刪掉後是不夠的。 |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:44.984000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:45.984000+08:00 |
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不要去刪到國防的、不要去影響人民安全、不要影響人民醫療、不要影響人民的退休、不要影響到打詐、毒品，可以嗎？ |
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0.152 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:45.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:46.984000+08:00 |
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委員，你講的我都願意…… |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:46.984000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:47.984000+08:00 |
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你如果把人民放在心上，你的心還是好的。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-30T11:46:47.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:48.984000+08:00 |
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我都願意，但是問題是刪減這樣就會不夠，沒辦法刪減到3,753億，這個部分我們就沒辦法因應。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:46:48.386000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-12-30T11:46:48.526000+08:00 |
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會不夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-30T11:46:48.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-12-30T11:46:49.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
現在立法院正在審啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-30T11:46:49.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-12-30T11:46:50.267000+08:00 |
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可以啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-30T11:46:50.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-12-30T11:47:25.782000+08:00 |
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有幾個方法可以解決錢不夠的問題，你有足夠的錢、財政變好了，這幾年每一年政府財政都超徵，今年超徵多少？ |
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0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:47:27.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-12-30T11:47:28.603000+08:00 |
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5,100億，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-30T11:47:28.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-12-30T11:47:35.185000+08:00 |
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至少中央分到的有三千多億，你可以追加預算，這是第一個，把錢增加了；第二個，減少不當的部分。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:47:35.805000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:01.059000+08:00 |
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我來跟你講什麼叫不當的，當要犧牲人民權益的時候，還有犧牲官員自己福利的時候，我們來看一下，有一筆錢叫特別費，我看了一下明年度所有官員的特別費，編了超過1億629萬以上，主計長，你一個月的特別費多少錢？3萬9,500。 |
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0.753 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:01.059000+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:02.059000+08:00 |
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一年大概47萬，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-30T11:48:01.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:01.679000+08:00 |
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這筆錢要做什麼用？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-30T11:48:01.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:02.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
供首長招待或者饋贈。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-30T11:48:17.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:22.966000+08:00 |
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你把人民的醫療、把人民的退休錢都砍了，為什麼不先回來砍自己？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-30T11:48:24.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:27.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
人民的醫療、退休重要，還是你的福利比較重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-30T11:48:29.368000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-12-30T11:48:30.368000+08:00 |
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這一億是不是就該砍了？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:30.989000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:54.304000+08:00 |
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如果你真的要砍到人民，我公開倡議，我們現在審的明年度所有首長的特別費，從總統開始，特別是總統跟行政院長，總統府有300萬的特別費、行政院有450萬的特別費，各部會一直到首長都有特別費，你還去做什麼饋贈跟招待？ |
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0.865 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:55.204000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:56.605000+08:00 |
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請什麼客、送什麼紅包！ |
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0.889 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:48:57.785000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:03.506000+08:00 |
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人民醫療的經費都被你們砍掉了，所以這筆錢明（114）年全砍！ |
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0.783 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:03.506000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:04.467000+08:00 |
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第二個，我們再看下一個新聞。 |
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1 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:12.554000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:16.817000+08:00 |
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昨天星期日，農業部發布一個新的任命案，中央畜產會董事長由蘇治芬接任。 |
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0.581 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:16.918000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:27.165000+08:00 |
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主計長，你知道他一年的薪水多少嗎？30萬。 |
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0.938 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:27.165000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:28.686000+08:00 |
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一個月30萬，年薪600萬。 |
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0.857 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:28.686000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:33.330000+08:00 |
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你年薪多少？ |
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1 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:33.590000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:34.030000+08:00 |
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他比你還多耶！ |
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0.833 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:36.052000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:53.964000+08:00 |
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一個中央畜產會董事長一年就花了600萬，而且這個本來是無給職的，以前要不然就是農業部次長來當，要不然就是主管畜產會的司長來當以前人民不用花一毛錢，不用花民脂民膏，但自林聰賢開始，一年要花600萬，這個錢要不要砍？ |
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0.554 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:54.244000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:55.605000+08:00 |
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蘇治芬接了這個新工作，這錢能留著嗎？ |
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0.688 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:49:55.605000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:10.780000+08:00 |
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我更要問，從整個結構面來看，政府有多少國營事業、有多少財團法人、多少基金？ |
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1 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:13.782000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:14.282000+08:00 |
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好幾百個！ |
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0.75 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:16.423000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:23.948000+08:00 |
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所以中央畜產會董事長的錢要砍，而且他有什麼績效可以領這麼多錢？ |
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0.828 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:23.948000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:27.104000+08:00 |
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其他像很多弊案也浪費了很多民脂民膏。 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:27.104000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:30.260000+08:00 |
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主計長，在這邊我要做個倡議，你說要砍人民的錢，我跟你講，現在所有的國營事業、財團法人跟基金，凡超過部會首長以上薪水的全部要檢討，全部都砍！ |
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0.098 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:30.260000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:31.381000+08:00 |
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報告委員，國營事業和基金不在我們3,753億裡面。 |
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0.947 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:31.381000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:36.741250+08:00 |
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但在政府所有的支出裡面…… |
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0 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:36.741250+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:42.101500+08:00 |
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不是、不是。 |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:42.101500+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:47.461750+08:00 |
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至少把這個錢省下來…… |
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0 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:47.461750+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:52.822000+08:00 |
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營業和非營業不放在我國公務預算裡，這是總預算的部分…… |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:52.822000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:58.182250+08:00 |
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至少不公平，對不對？ |
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0 |
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陳主計長淑姿 |
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2024-12-30T11:50:58.182250+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:03.542500+08:00 |
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是，但這部分不宜…… |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:03.542500+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:08.902750+08:00 |
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主計長，你聽我講，我們全面檢討所有的國營事業跟基金的錢，好不好？ |
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0.036 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:08.902750+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:14.263000+08:00 |
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這個可以省下幾十億跑不掉，而且這樣才公平！ |
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0.263 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:14.263000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:20.607000+08:00 |
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憑什麼國營事業董事長、畜產會董事長薪水比你還高，大概是三倍，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:20.607000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:24.670000+08:00 |
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你一年也才200萬而已，他憑什麼拿600萬？ |
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0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:24.670000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:31.654000+08:00 |
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而且不限於中央畜產會，有多少國營事業董事長、多少基金會董事長拿的比你還多，還多了兩、三倍？ |
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0.875 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:33.796000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:35.857000+08:00 |
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這個要全面檢討。 |
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0.429 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:35.857000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:52.888000+08:00 |
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另外，你要砍人民的錢，最近，我砍了台電火力發電的錢250億，因為你們把核電廢掉了，所以一直在燒煤。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.775 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:54.329000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:57.710000+08:00 |
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減少燒煤不是民進黨政府的政策嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:51:57.710000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:10.476000+08:00 |
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從以前的國民黨政府到民進黨政府都說要減少燃煤，結果還是一直燃燒煤，還去麥寮的燃煤電廠買電，不僅傷害人民的健康，還多花錢，所以250億就砍了！ |
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0.705 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:10.776000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:11.397000+08:00 |
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114年一樣，至少可以砍500億，怎麼沒錢？ |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:11.397000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:11.817000+08:00 |
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所以到底有哪些錢？ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:11.917000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:31.310000+08:00 |
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錢不夠了，要不然就請主計總處、行政院把我剛剛一路講下來的浮濫、不該花的錢、不當的錢砍掉。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.744 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:32.210000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:37.214000+08:00 |
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像水電費，今年水電費竟然編80億，被罵到臭頭，明年竟然編了101億，還增加20億，這20億不用砍掉嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.694 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:37.214000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:39.156000+08:00 |
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人民會同意增加這20億嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:39.156000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-12-30T11:52:39.216000+08:00 |
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這是不是浮濫？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:39.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:44.507000+08:00 |
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不當的錢也很多，你們花那麼多的錢去做大內宣，不好好做事，就會用人民的錢去洗腦，這種不當的錢不能砍嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:44.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:49.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
出國的錢有多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:49.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:52:55.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
每個部會裡面編了多少錢出國？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-30T11:52:55.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:00.380000+08:00 |
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有什麼績效？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:00.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T11:53:05.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
這種錢不應該砍嗎？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:05.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:10.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
弊案的錢要不要砍？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:10.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:14.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
主計長，我剛剛已經提醒你了，我今天摸著良心問你話，你也摸著良心回答我。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.581 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:14.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:32.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
若你是一個有良心的主計長，請回去檢討浮濫浪費的、不當的、弊案的，包括我剛剛講如果要砍人民的醫療、砍他的退休金，請你們先從砍自己開始！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:33.154000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:37.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
從總統、行政院長、各個部會到各國營事業董事長開始做起，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:37.998000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:43.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
你們都沒有砍自己的福利了，憑什麼去砍人民的錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:43.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:48.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
這關乎人民的健康、人民的退休金，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:48.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-12-30T11:53:54.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
現在有幾個解決方式，你說明年的總預算不重編，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-12-30T11:53:54.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:01.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
事實上，這次財劃法修正的實施應該是後年，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:01.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:03.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
所以你有一年時間，你要去檢討我剛剛講的，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:04.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:04.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
我們摸著良心！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:06.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:11.722000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
我覺得要減出這三千億不成問題，我剛剛一路念下來，減三千億太容易了！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:12.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:19.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
我是跑國會的新聞記者，我跑很久了，知道有多少的預算本來就該檢討，這樣人民才會有掌聲。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:19.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:20.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
以前總統薪水多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:22.494000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:24.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
陳水扁當立委法委員時我當記者，那時我就開始追這個錢。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:25.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:36.923000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
以前總統薪水一個月是84萬，因為我們以前是威權時代，是強人，所以總統薪水很高；可是陳水扁當總統時薪水砍一半，從84萬降到42萬！ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:41.225000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:47.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
財政部長一定知道，以前你們這些首長的薪水有公費、歲費，一半不用繳稅，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:47.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2024-12-30T11:54:54.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
後來不就改了，全部都要繳稅，合理啊，而且國庫至少增加了一億以上！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-12-30T11:54:56.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:01.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
你要去做這些改革，這樣才是一個好心的主計長，也是一個有改革的主計長。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-12-30T11:55:03.241000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:11.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
老實講，你們各個部會輪流出來開記者會，主計總處說要砍這八大項，但這八大項每一項都砍在人民身上！ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-12-30T11:55:14.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:18.251000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
請把人民放在心上，我們希望我們都做個有良心的人，拜託！拜託！ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2024-12-30T11:55:18.751000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:21.036714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
大家一起努力，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-12-30T11:55:21.336714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:23.908143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
非常謝謝張啓楷委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-12-30T11:55:24.208143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-12-30T11:55:27.065286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
接著我們請鄭天財委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |