| IVOD_ID |
158517 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158517 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T11:43:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T11:55:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e0717367f89393f27e4f10c035d50fc648d9c2d0a04e685e498e7165f4ad3413885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:43:34 - 11:55:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院龔秘書長明鑫、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲就「行政院表示：因財劃法修正，114年度總預算須重編」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【113年12月30日及114年1月2日二天一次會】） |
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請請副秘書長叫主計長委員好我看了行政院這幾天還有特別是主計長你今天提出來你說以後被衝擊而且有可能會減少的八個面向我看了我真的是非常的難過我問問為什麼開始我的質詢是我們都摸著良心 |
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摸著良心希望我們的心都還是好的如果心壞掉了就變成壞人了就變成壞心的人了今天主計總處提了三檢的八個項目包括說可能會影響到民眾的就醫前線影響到癌症的癌由 |
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喊病等民眾使用心藥跟護理人員的獎勵還有影響到勞工的勞退基金這種錢你砍得下去嗎?主規定你是決定優先順序哪些不當的錢我們如果要把減少錢是不是有腐爛的、浪費的、不當的、有弊案的先砍對不對你怎麼會提個八個面向 |
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刀刀砍向的是我們生病的人是勞工?這咁好心美人?你是好心的主計長還是壞心的主計長? |
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你的心還好嗎?沒有壞掉?報告委員我們整個114年的預算是3兆1那扣除依法律15就是1兆8那剩下1兆3那1兆3的各項項目如果我們以目前還沒有經過檢討原則上是平均減就是各項減28%那是不是哪些項目不減必須經過討論之後開會討論之後再開會這一次規定我說到問你嘛 |
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你怎麼去砍生病人的錢、該用的錢、薪料的錢、砍勞工的錢還講什麼?可能為了連毒品跟打仗,你意思是說錢沒夠?你連毒品都不要再查了嗎?打仗都不要了嗎?你這是威脅人民 |
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如果以國防預算來講,國防預算如果不減那我這樣子我其他就必須相對所有全部提高要到3減37%所以蘇珂婷我都要提起你嘛,我們兩個我在執行,你的回答是你都摸著良心嘛你是要決定哪些不當的、腐爛的、弊案的要刪掉嘛對不對不要去刪到國防 |
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會不夠嗎?現在立法院正在審啊可以啊有幾個方法可以解決錢不夠的問題嘛 |
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你有足夠的錢財政變好了這幾年每一年政府財政都超生啊今年超生多少五億一千萬五千一百億對不對至少中央分的有三千多億啊你可以追加預算這是第一把錢增加了第二個減少不當的嘛我來跟你講什麼叫不當的來我們看一下當要犧牲人民的這個權益的時候還有關聯自己的福利的時候我們來看一下 |
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有一筆錢叫特別費我看了一下明年度所有關聯的特別費編了超過1億629萬以上這筆錢要做什麼用?供首長招待或者饋贈嘛 |
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你把人民的醫療把人民的退休錢都砍了為什麼不先回來砍自己人民的醫療退休還是你的福利比較重要這一億是不是就該砍的如果你真的要砍到人民我公開倡議今年我們現在在審的明年度所有的首長的特別費從總統開始特別是總統跟行政院長中通戶 |
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三八百年特別會．行政院四八五十年特別會．各部會一直到首長的都有特別會．這個你還去做什麼饋贈跟招待．請什麼課．送什麼紅包．人民醫療都被你們砍掉了．這筆錢明年114年全砍．第二個我們再看下一個新聞 |
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一部發布一個新的任命案中央巡產會的董事長數字會不會去接?主計長你知道他一年的薪水多少?30萬1個月30萬年薪600萬你年薪多少?他比你還多欸一個中央巡產會當署定 |
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僅離開了罷班而且這個是本來是無幾子的耶以前要嘛就是農業部的次長要嘛就是市長會的司長以前人民不用再花一毛錢的名子名高為零送錢開戲僅離開了罷班這個錢要不要砍?是這問題的這個新工作這個錢能留著嗎?我更要問從整個結構面來看 |
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政府有多少國營事業?有多少財團法人?多少基金?幾百個啊!不只中央稀產會的這個董事長的錢要砍啊!這些很多弊案的但會名子名高的特別是他本來有什麼績效可以領這麼多錢?主席來我做個倡議 |
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報告委員 這個國營事業和基金他不在我們3753億裡面喔 |
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議員主席 |
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而且才符合公平啊憑什麼國營事業董事長什麼系長會董事長比你薪水還高大概是你的三倍對不對你錢也兩百萬而已啊他憑什麼拿六百萬而且不是一個中央系長會有多少國營事業董事長多少基金會的董事長拿的比你還多多了兩三倍前面去檢討另外你要砍人民最近啊 |
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光是台電的這個錢我砍了火力發電的錢250億你現在把核電廢掉了結果你一直在燒煤燒煤不是民進黨政府的政策嗎以前國民黨政府到民進黨都說燃煤要減少就燃煤還是一直燒還是什麼賣掉電廠這個燃煤電廠還一直買電 |
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上海人民的健康還多花錢250億金銀就砍了一樣啊114年至少砍500億啊怎麼沒錢所以要有哪些錢要錢不過的 |
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要嘛就是你主計總處、行政院你去把剛剛一路講下來的腐爛、不該花的錢的、不當的錢你腐爛你看水電費今年的水電費變80億已經被罵臭頭了每年還編輯了110億、101億還給20億的出來這21億不用砍掉嗎?人民會同意你說你要增加這21億嗎?這是不是腐爛? |
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響鐘 |
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所以我今天摸著良心問話你也摸著良心回答我你如果是一個有良心的主計長請你回去檢討腐爛浪費的、不當的、弊案的包括我剛剛講的如果是你要砍人民的醫療 |
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斬他的退休金請你們先從砍自己開始從總統跟行政院難到各個部會各個國運社董事長開始做起好不好你們自己都沒有沒有砍自己的福利了憑什麼去砍人民的錢人民的健康人民的退休金好不好現在有幾個解決方式 |
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其實啦你已經說不重編了嘛對不對明年不重編了嘛對不對事實上這個應該財劃法這次的修正應該真正實施也應該是後年吧對不對那你有一年的時間你還要檢討我剛剛講的好不好我們謀著良心我只有要減這三千億第一個要減三千億不成問題我剛剛一路練下來減三千億太容易了我這國會會事務的記者照顧啊 |
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有多少的預算本來就是檢討以後人民是有掌聲的欸以前總統薪水多少從陳水扁當立法委員我當記者我就開始追這個錢我們以前總統是一個月是84萬欸威權時代我們以前是威權時代是強人所以我們總統薪水很高啊你在陳水扁當總統薪水砍一半欸降到從84降到42以前財政部長一定知道 |
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以前你們這些所長的薪水有公費跟稅費一半不用繳稅對不對後來不就改了嗎改全部要繳稅啊合理啊國庫至少增加了一億以上啊你去做這些改革嘛你才是一個好心的主計長也是一個有改革的主計長嘛我今天看了老蔣你們不要再講這個各個部會輪流出來該記者會啊主計總是說要砍這八項這八大項每一項都砍在人民身上欸 |
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請把人民放心上,我們希望我們都做一個有良心的人,拜託一下。 |