| IVOD_ID |
158501 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158501 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T10:30:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T10:41:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e09624667d254764c94f10c035d50fc64849d0b5afa0c2001b20cac61ede387e4d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:08 - 10:41:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院龔秘書長明鑫、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲就「行政院表示：因財劃法修正，114年度總預算須重編」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【113年12月30日及114年1月2日二天一次會】） |
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財政部莊部長 |
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委員好部長早部長12月20日財劃法三讀之後各部會聯手接力批評整個中央變成了一個消息製造工廠鋪天蓋地進行認知作戰我在上個禮拜三有聽到您在財委會接受質詢的時候說這個114年度要開始了那你並沒有說過 |
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要這個總預算重編這件事情我有重復看去看那個當時的質詢但是我們在12月23星期一的這個行政院說明記者會裡面看到行政院發言人說財劃法的修訂會嚴重衝擊到明年度的總預算可能需要重新編列確實有講這句話對不對你們在現場你跟主計長都在現場 |
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這樣亂講話：最終承受壓力跟砲火的還是您跟相關部會首長 |
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部長你沒有說過要重編但是行政院發言人代表行政院長說可能要重編你們沒有討論出一個一致對外不管是內部的意見還是一致對外的說法像這樣子的到處放話財劃法修訂是關乎全民的一個重大政策不管是對立溝通還是對外發言都非常的重要也要非常的謹慎 |
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尤其這種政策應該是要以事實與數據為依據不是這種散播恐嚇甚至於情熱剛剛有聽到委員一直在講情熱來誤導民眾 |
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12月21日行政院長到花蓮視察他特別提到他說有人斷章取義但是我重複的看這個他的原話他說未來颱風來臨行政院也沒有任何的能力來到各個地方地震來臨各地方政府要自己非常勇敢的去面對這是他的原話 |
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這個東西他講的這個事情目前各地方政府都在做並沒有因為財劃法的修訂才更努力更認真本來就很努力很認真所以我認為說院長講這種話真的是欠妥情的不只是情的 |
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還混淆這種視聽甚至於賴總統公開表示說修法後努力發展建設的地方政府跟民眾將受到新法的懲罰這種說法危及 |
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他更說危及各級政府的政策施行及人民福祉這樣的言論一個缺乏數據的支持更是無端恐嚇讓民眾對政策產生不必要的誤解我以舉臺中市為例臺中是人口最大人口第二多的城市也是繳稅給中央最多的城市之一 |
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每年上繳中央將近1400億財劃法修正後臺中市可分配到708億這是合理的財政回歸也是對地方發展的一個正向回饋完全不存在懲罰地方的問題 |
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﹝顏寬恒： |
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反而是各部會首長都跳出來說會衝擊到補助、津貼甚至加薪這些毫無根據的引發民眾的不安這是令人遺憾這種虛假不實的言論無助於政策的推動反倒是分裂國家動搖民心的這樣的行為財劃法的修訂完全不會排擠到國防補助之類的預算我們以去年的財政收支來看 |
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據名預算結餘有607億債務收支餘額約15301530億營業相關營收約608億作業資金收入684億債務基金相關約390億這樣112年度總預算餘額為3819億是將總預算餘額完全分配給地方 |
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根本不會排擠到本來就應該要編列的既有預算所以拜託各位部會所長不要再散播這些假訊息部長你身為財政專家你贊不贊同這些散布假消息的這些說法你可不可以告訴我 |
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跟委員報告我想在今天的我們的行政院也好主計總處也好財政部的報告裡面都非常說清楚的說明114年度的總預算行政院已經籌編並且在大院審議當中我們希望能夠進促審議往前然後114年能夠按照我們的施政計畫 |
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對於這次財劃法的修正因為他沒有討論到事權的一個劃分就是從中央部分隨時分配的部分就從中央 |
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增加劃出一定的一個比例的稅款大概以114年的稅款來計算的話是到3753億那這個部分會的後續的一些影響因為等於是說重新增加出來要劃拨到中央統籌分配稅款裡面對於中央施政的一些相關的影響那個主計總處也請各部會在做一個盤整所以也已經都盤整出來 |
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389.642 |
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主席我想邀請主計總處陳主計長部長請回 |
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主席長,這個修法會讓地方政府爭取到更多的資源也會實現更公平的一個財政分配並且釋出中央超徵稅收還有財政剩餘 |
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那地方能夠更專注的一個改善基層民生與推動基礎建設的部分那我想認為說這個財劃法的修訂不僅僅是賦予地方更多的財源也是賦予地方更大的一個發展自主性才能真正推動基礎建設提升整體執行效率減少計畫延宕進一步的回應民眾的需求我就舉我自己台中市的一個 |
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舉例,我們臺中市烏日大慶的鐵路高架,鐵路高架計畫延宕了十幾年 |
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這個也展現了目前地方建設推動中央存在的挑戰還有一個需要改善之處113年2月23日提報可行性修正報告給交通部交通部在3月29號呈報行政院續行審議國發會6月19號含送審查意見給交通部 |
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515.786 |
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鐵道局6月27日還請臺中市政府回應及修正報告書臺中市政府目前正依國發會的審查意見修正報告書中這個全場只有3.7公里的高架計畫總經費83億中央負擔36億地方政府必須要超過46億的一個承擔 |
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對於地方的財政就是壓力非常的巨大從這個問題可以看出來這個修訂財劃法是解決地方財政困難光是中央用公文往返卡台中卡了多少案子我甚至於敢假設說這是中央根本就是不想編列這樣的預算那尤其我們看8800億的前瞻預算台中市的軌道 |
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561.731 |
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並列軌道的一個補助幾乎是零台中市第二大城市零那這樣子就可以知道說中央補助不只是大小園對於地方政府 |
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581.456 |
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還是按照公裁顏色對就對了顏色錯就一毛都不給你所以中正的態度很明顯不管我們每一次在總質詢的時候要求行政院長快一點快一點但是行政院長他們就是行政院能拖就拖苦的都是地方政府 |
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582.156 |
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600.258 |
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所以我想再舉一個例子就南山節水溝台中市的防洪重要的非常重要的一個防洪工程第三期的工程要新闢上游長度2.9公里的部分經費約65億光是土地徵收還有第三戶補償就要接近30億了 |
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601.559 |
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627.791 |
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中央目前回復我們辦公室的就是說這個經費龐大無法一次到位所以沒有辦法那麼快編定這個就是雪林林活生生的中央在卡地方建設尤其這是一個攸關人民生命財產安全的一個防洪設施防洪建設我要告訴主計長還有部長不要從臺北看天下財務法的修訂真的可以幫助很多縣市的發展 |
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628.911 |
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652.782 |
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我剛剛提到了前瞻八千八百億軌道建設全國各縣市都得到補助人口第二的台中市補助款竟然是零零啊沒有啦所以一再的顯示中央的統籌分配款是大小顏而且透過這一次的財劃法修正才是長治久安的辦法可以讓地方得到更公平的一個對待 |
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668.938 |
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跟委員報告台中捷運南線預算在114年中要編列5億元那113年年度也編列2億元所以它並不是零它是有補助的所以它是整個一個捷運南線都有補助 |
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669.138 |
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670.499 |
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陳主計長,謝謝。我時間已經到了。我時間已經到了。好,謝謝。 |