| IVOD_ID |
158500 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158500 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T10:35:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T10:40:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e01fb5a56f7a54541f83be44f6eda3de9349d0b5afa0c2001b2f3f07a615f4351a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:35:25 - 10:40:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單，李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員，林慶堂為委員，請同意案。） |
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主席、各位委員,有請被提名人,我們副主委。請陳志民被提名人。好,這個副主委,你在這個公平會啊,很多年了。過去我看了你的相關的這些報告。好,這個 |
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臺灣為已開發國家被詐金額最高的國家日常交易已成詐騙的溫床就公平會的業務而言這些被詐騙的有哪些是屬於你們的 |
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各位報告一下就是如果純粹是吸金故意惡意的詐欺這個本身會涉及到刑者的問題那這部分案子我們大概就是依請檢察官或法務部這邊來進行後續的調查那本會的立場對於這個詐騙行為主要是在不實廣告的規定所以如果業者有刻意的散佈錯誤的訊息導致消費者去做了錯誤的消費決定這部分我們都是會嚴格去查處跟處分這個副主委 |
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不是只有不實廣告我們看公平交易委員會組織法維護交易自息以消費者權益然後公平會組織法第二條這裡面公平交易經濟各方面的很多多層次傳教當然這個比較跟那個沒有關係這裡面 |
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提供商品或服務從事交易事業不得為其足以影響交易自息之期望或顯示公平之行為所以網路交易啊現在就是你的法要以時即盡就是法沒有以時即盡你才會限收在你剛剛講的 |
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你不能說以此形式第一個現在最忙的是警政署警察人員打詐司法好像跟你沒有關係這個就是錯誤的所以你要去分析整個台灣成為詐騙的這個一個國家你要去分析哪些應該是 |
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屬於公平交易委員會這個公平交易法沒有以時計進你不要到刑事了之後才那前面的防範很重要交易它是交易喔網路交易是交易這個都是都是 |
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冒充或依附或是不時促銷手段隱匿重要交易資訊我們看這個公平交易法106年6月14號修正到現在7年6個月而這7年來各式各樣的 |
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網路交易當初106年以前你可以了解吧副主委106年以前網路交易是非常少啊106年之後尤其是這幾年對不對所以你要去就現行的這麼多的個案而不是全部推託給這個警察單位 |
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然後這個相關的這些司法機關那個都是已經後面的前面的怎麼去防範非常非常的重要我跟委員補充一下那個 |
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其實我們並不是說事前的東西都不做了我們也是行政院打詐團隊的一份子所以對於事詐打詐這一塊我們也是積極在做那我非常同意委員所談到的與時俱進那我們針對網路數位這個所謂的訊息散佈錯誤詐欺這部分其實像我們的關鍵字廣告還有一個針對這個網路上的不實像網紅的廣告等等其實我們都有在進一步在優化我們的執法的內容您有提到你的這個 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（10時35分）主席、各位委員。 |
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有請被提名人我們副主委。 |
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請陳志民被提名人。 |
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委員早。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：副主委，你在公平會很多年，過去我看了你的相關報告，臺灣為已開發國家被詐金額最高的國家，日常交易已成詐騙溫床。 |
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就公平會的業務而言，這些被詐騙的有哪些是屬於你們的業務？ |
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跟委員報告一下，如果純粹是吸金、故意、惡意的詐欺，這本身會涉及到刑責的問題，這部分的案子我們大概就是移請檢察官或法務部這邊來進行後續的調查。 |
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那本會的立場，對於這個詐騙行為，主要是在不實廣告的規定，所以如果業者有刻意散布錯誤的訊息，導致消費者去做了錯誤的消費決定，這部分我們都是會嚴格去查處跟處分。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：副主委，不是只有不實廣告，我們來看公平交易委員會組織法的規定，維護交易秩序與消費者權益。 |
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在公平會組織法第二條裡面規定，公平交易、經濟、各方面，有很多，還有多層次傳銷，當然這個比較跟那個沒有關係。 |
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另外，提供商品或服務從事交易，還有，事業亦不得為其他足以影響交易秩序之欺罔或顯失公平之行為。 |
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所以網路交易，現在就是你的法要與時俱進，現在就是法沒有與時俱進，你才會限縮在你剛剛講的。 |
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現在最忙的是警政署、警察人員，打詐四法好像跟你沒有關係，這個就是錯誤的，所以針對整個臺灣成為被詐騙的國家，你要去分析哪些應該是屬於公平交易委員會的部分，這個公平交易法沒有與時俱進，你不要到刑事了之後才處理，前面的防範很重要，它是交易喔，網路交易是交易，這個都是冒充或依附，或不實促銷手段、隱匿重要交易資訊。 |
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公平交易法自106年6月14號修正到現在已7年6個月，這7年來有各式各樣的網路交易，當初106年以前，你可以了解吧！ |
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副主委，106年以前，網路交易非常少，106年之後，尤其是這幾年，對不對？ |
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所以你要就現行這麼多的個案，而不是全部推託給警察單位、相關的這些司法機關，那都是已經後面的部分了，前面的部分要怎麼去防範非常非常重要。 |
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我跟委員補充一下，其實我們並不是說事前的東西都不做啦，我們也是行政院打詐團隊的一份子，所以對於識詐、打詐這一塊，我們也是積極在做，我非常同意委員所談到的與時俱進，我們針對網路、數位所謂的訊息散布錯誤、詐欺這部分，其實像我們的關鍵字廣告，還有一個針對網路上的不實，像網紅的廣告等等，其實我們都有進一步在優化我們執法的內容。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：你有提到這個相關法令要修，尤其是公平交易法，好不好？加油。 |
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謝謝委員。 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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下一位質詢請呂玉玲委員。 |
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