IVOD_ID |
158489 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158489 |
日期 |
2024-12-30 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
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會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-12-30T09:59:42+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-30T10:04:41+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:04:59 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e0c57a487a5671199283be44f6eda3de9349d0b5afa0c2001b65024ebfa9e6d7965ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
委員發言時間 |
09:59:42 - 10:04:41 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單,李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員,林慶堂為委員,請同意案。) |
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被提名的你好只有4分鐘的時間我希望你珍惜這4分鐘我為什麼說希望你珍惜這4分鐘因為您的答案會實質的影響在這一次同意權的形式我們的投票決定所以這個主要是請教你立場跟基本態度的問題4分鐘的時間不會對你進行太實質的質詢第一個問題 |
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公平會維護市場交易秩序我相信是最重要的事情對於不當廉潔禁止原則公平會應不應該遵守?請不當廉潔禁止原則是應該要遵守?是應該要遵守嗎?好來2022年7月公平會通過全聯併大論法 |
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這是一個引發社會高度爭議的併購案因為它會深刻的衝擊消費者的權益當初4比3三位委員提出不同意見書三位委員提出不同意見書我相信三位委員所提出的不同意見書諸位你應該都拜讀過了那這個對於整個市場的交易秩序跟消費者權益衝擊如此大的 |
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的併購案他所造成後續的影響我必須要說與波蕩漾我看了這個結合的書裡面是不是有個委員要求提出大論法三年內每年捐3億當贖罪券是哪個委員提出的要求我們有委員這樣的是哪個委員 |
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我想這個內部會議所做成的這個討論的過程我不適合來說明 確實有委員這樣提沒有 我怕誤殺誤辜啦所以我給你機會澄清啦是你提這樣的要求嗎?不是是副主委提這樣的要求嗎?不是那是哪一位委員提這樣的要求? |
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主委你認同不認同每一位委員4比3的比數每一位委員要為自己的投票行為負責任主委你認不認同我想每一位委員為投票的結果最後就是公平會的意見公平會的處分應該受社會大眾的檢視沒有錯 |
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當場有一位委員要求全聯加碼捐贈1億元來推廣體育跟棋藝活動他才要投贊成票這是我接到的檢舉這個檢舉的內容屬不屬實有這樣的情形但是我們也有徵詢結合當事人是否同意在他同意的情況下他併購成功利益這麼大每年捐個3億元九牛一毛啊 |
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九牛一毛啊在審議的過程跟業者開口每一年多捐一億來贊助什麼來贊助體育跟棋藝的活動這沒有違反不當連結禁止原則請教主委現在我問的是法學的問題啊在併購案的審議過程當中當場開口跟業者要一億說要拿來贊助 |
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這有沒有違反不當連結禁止的原則現在喔這個不是你有沒有幫那個委員講話的問題喔是你作為主委在你的法學專業上公平會這樣做適合嗎 |
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我給你機會請主委再記得這件事喔我現在再給你機會喔適合還是不適合我想跟委員說明喔最終是針對結合案是否禁止來討論那這個捐款的部分我們也有請結合事業那當然會答應嘛那再同意作為一個附加的話如果是業者你答不答應 |
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現在我問你有沒有違反不當連結禁止原則主委請記得我是在給您機會我想這樣的一個要求跟我們結合的審查沒有必然的關係但是這個跟你結合的審查沒有必然的關係它不是作為負負擔的一部分嗎不是嗎我們在審結合的時候當事人承諾的事項是可以作為負擔的一部分主委我已經給你時間了主席也站起來我尊重其他委員的時間謝謝 |