| IVOD_ID |
158488 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158488 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T09:48:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T10:02:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e03977f73fc32b20a84f10c035d50fc64849d0b5afa0c2001b63521e5656016d285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:08 - 10:02:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院龔秘書長明鑫、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲就「行政院表示：因財劃法修正，114年度總預算須重編」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【113年12月30日及114年1月2日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席有請行政院的副秘書長李副秘書長以及財政部長以及主計長陳主計長上位長官好我先請教行政院的長官副秘書長 |
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你們行政院發言人大聲講啊說預算要重編啊到底馬上過兩天就變成114年了要重編嗎?請問要重編嗎? |
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要重編嗎?根委員報告那據我們了解他的原意是對沒有明定施行日期所產生的嚴重衝擊表達憂心並不是要重編並沒有要重編你們要去更正啊到目前為止都沒有更正這一句話所以他的原意是這樣子所以沒有要重編不然我們在審什麼?審頭一天嗎?你們都重編了我們要審什麼? |
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不可以呼呼咧 大家呼呼咧啊然後你看喔 你們看喔 我不知道主計長在這裡面 啊 開始這樣 整個 整個台灣 整個中華民國的會社出口 |
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開始就規模 你看喔 行政院估計15個機關裝備受影響加起來 6300多億 還有修法以後公共建設受影響1200多億加起來7500多億 總管委只不過挖3700多億 怎麼你們列出來就7599億 來 主計長 你想要哪 |
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你嚇人你嚇人不是這樣嚇的啊嚇壞老百姓啊把臺灣老百姓都嚇死啊我們總共就是分給地方3753億結果你一天列就列7600億了你到底是什麼口惡老百姓喔 |
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你是恐嚇人家喔?主計長啊?你出來就恐嚇喔?我們是以3兆1、114年3兆1扣掉1兆8了就是1法律1剩下1兆3那1兆3裡面的各項計畫必須3減28%這樣所以各計畫影響第一個我們原則是平均3減因為我們還沒討論到底3減哪一個計畫所以我們必須詳細討論你到底討論沒有 |
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所以目前還沒有討論,但是要討論的時候就是目前一般性的通案3減28%,3753就要3減28%每一個計劃都要3減28%,這樣就7999的不對啊你總共就3700多億而已啊,你怎麼會變7999億啊,為什麼這樣子呢 |
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這個副秘書長你也當過副主席長啊 |
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你們這是報告給我看?總共一頁一張紙啊!有夠不負責任啦!對主席大不敬啦!對我們財務會大不敬啦!今天來講叫你說叫你提一個因應財劃法修正你們要需要重編是我要重編因為你們說重編結果你們總共就一頁然後跟有關係的只有在第三段寫了一下簡單來講就是不接受 |
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你這意思百萬文講就是不接受那個龔秘書長是不是這個意思不接受跟委員說明齁那再次的說明不接受是不是發言人原意是對未明定施行日期所會產生的嚴重衝擊表達憂心阿就是不接受嘛就是不接受嘛 |
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對嗎?你是不接受?我們是全國最高的民意機構通過的法律案然後你就一下子就草草的幾個字不接受,意思是不接受不接受好,我們來看那你們準備怎麼做?行政院準備怎麼做?要不要提復議?要不要?請問你?要不要提復議? |
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跟委員說明一下因為行政院還沒有收到那個財劃法修正的公文阿你真的講不接受啦那修到以後呢你都已經收到就不提是賦予對不對我們收到以後我們會在憲政賦予的權利之下那合法的秩序之下尋求各種你都知道賦予你絕對輸的阿阿所以再提示憲好重點在這裡 |
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我們是會循著合法的憲政程序來提各種問題 |
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現在來講如果你提示線那整個就是在pendinging阿這個等於3750起億就暫時的Pending在那裡如果再配合那個已經沒有法源的大法官的會議用8個9的大法官如果要把他解釋說暫時處分阿都互互攬摸一摸一喔就這個樣子喔 |
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那你要考慮一下喔現在預算還在審喔預算還在審喔 |
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因為剛剛主計長也說明過了那個是他們挑出來受影響的計畫那裡面的影響的金額的話約略會有28%受到影響並不是全部 |
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7,599億幫你通緝是這個樣子主計長你可以看 |
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請問你有沒有對各縣市的主計人員下達命令比如說台北市、台南市、高雄市這些主計人員說你們要配合修法有沒有做這個事有沒有有沒有下達命令 |
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我們目前只有做調查就是說曾家的財源縣市希望要做哪些的一個項目目前正在匯總當中 |
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我去問過幾個縣市了他們說錢只要下來他們馬上辦追加預算地方政府一點都沒有問題可以辦追加預算一聲立下辦追加預算問題都沒有問題 |
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所以我強烈的執意要講不要亂砍計劃心得不住要砍哪一些你剛講7599億這樣就亂嚇人我們來看來其實啊要調整的就可以調整啦台電郭志輝部長講了N次啊他可以借錢啊你為什麼給他追加預算一千億呢 |
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暫緩台電1000億的增資暫緩淺建2800億國安委員會已經講了分三期不要一次通過2800分三期900多暫緩以緩計期加起來就3000億了然後經濟部、數碼部亂補助一通加一加 |
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三千七百多億輕輕的都挖用不用心根本不是回到第一哪裡有這個東西你們就是用這個來恐嚇老百姓來整老百姓你看有租金補貼你看有掃紙畫你看有污水處理恐嚇老百姓 |
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發言委員． |
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﹏﹏ |
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我完全是政治鬥爭的語言喔我們要砍一砍去找可以找到錢不會影響民生的不會影響國防的對你怎麼影響一筆一揮哇通影響 |
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這個叫做隨便亂講就是用政治語言陳主計長原來我對你印象還不錯但是你提供這個表老實講讓我對你的評價腰斬腰斬啦你這個叫政治語言啦用政治語言嚇老百姓說你看通理印象齁燒紙貨印象齁自販印象齁物稅處理印象齁沒有立委看你這個東西啊 |
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我剛講的回到我剛那一頁經濟部的2000億砍掉啦不要急啦因為他自己可以借錢啊他有辦法而且你還有稅基剩餘部長財政部長請問你今年稅基剩餘有多少稅基剩餘是在組總這邊來計算的 |
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到現在為止114年呈現的是158億 |
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一百一一四一百五十八一一三是七千多億但是七千多億這個部分那個部分是因為第一個我要支付三三千九百多億的一個那個預後的一個相關的金額那是特別預算還有一個就是我支應我今年一一四的五百億好五百億這個部分我去我支援一一四年度的預算還有一個我我有一個那個以前非營利事業的一個 |
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主計長我希望你把我這句話聽進去一開始大家認為主計是專業的你不要把他搞政治化你不要說七頭四肚通砍他十八哪裡有這樣子的 |
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每一個計劃都要討論當然我跟委員報告你減少結構性每一年都要減3753但是你這個部分我台電重視我台電減2000億也是今年度可以減我沒辦法每一年減2000億所以你這結構性3753每年要減的部分就造成影響所以這個部分我要跟委員特別說這個是一個資源分配的問題我們三讀同步的法律 |
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你按照一定的程序去救濟。如果到最後輸了,你還是要照序啊。你還是要想辦法啊。對不對?我剛剛說過了啊。不是所有的這些民生的去砍他嘛。我已經再強調一遍了。經濟部肥肉那麼多,亂補助。還要補助NVIDIA。NVIDIA有多少啊?幾兆美金啊?還稀罕你那麼一點點錢。 |
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賴士葆賴士葆賴 |
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最後一句話主計長對外面溝通不要用政治語言你列出來這個表就是政治語言這是政治鬥爭用的我對你今天的提出這個表表達非常強烈的不滿跟遺憾不要這樣子因為 |
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謝謝賴司保委員 |
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謝謝主席，有請行政院的副秘書長以及財政部長、主計長。 |
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李副秘、莊部長、陳主計長。 |
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三位長官好。 |
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我先請教行政院的長官副秘書長，你們行政院發言人大聲講預算要重編，過兩天馬上就變成114年了，要重編嗎？ |
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0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2024-12-30T09:48:46.403000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2024-12-30T09:48:46.703000+08:00 |
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請問要重編嗎？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
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2024-12-30T09:48:58.115000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:07.521000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，據我們了解，他的原意是對沒有明定施行日期所產生的嚴重衝擊表達憂心，並不是要重編。 |
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0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:07.521000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:10.043000+08:00 |
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並沒有要重編，你們要去更正啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:10.804000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:18.349000+08:00 |
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到目前為止你們都沒有更正這句話的原意是這樣子，所以沒有要重編。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2024-12-30T09:49:18.349000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2024-12-30T09:49:21.411000+08:00 |
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要不然我們是在審什麼？ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2024-12-30T09:49:21.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2024-12-30T09:49:22.452000+08:00 |
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審心酸的喔！ |
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0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2024-12-30T09:49:22.452000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2024-12-30T09:49:23.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
你們都要重編了，我們還要審什麼？ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2024-12-30T09:49:26.666000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2024-12-30T09:49:27.026000+08:00 |
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不可以不算，大家都不算啊！ |
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0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:27.066000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:49:47.081000+08:00 |
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然後我不知道主計長……就開始整個臺灣、整個中華民國在「火燒厝」，就開始估了，你看行政院估計15個機關專項計畫受影響，加起來六千三百多億；修法以後公共建設受影響一千兩百多億，加起來七千五百多億，總共也只不過挖三千七百多億，怎麼你們列出來就7,599億？ |
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0.708 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2024-12-30T09:49:47.081000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2024-12-30T09:49:47.101000+08:00 |
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主計長，你是怎樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:04.502000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:05.243000+08:00 |
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嚇人也不是這樣嚇的啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:05.343000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:05.563000+08:00 |
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嚇壞老百姓啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:06.645000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:07.466000+08:00 |
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把臺灣老百姓都嚇死啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:07.606000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:08.467000+08:00 |
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我們總共就是分給地方3,753億，結果你一列就是7,600億，你到底是怎樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:08.527000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2024-12-30T09:50:21.423000+08:00 |
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恐嚇老百姓，主計長恐嚇人家啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:22.364000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2024-12-30T09:50:23.524000+08:00 |
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你綽號叫恐嚇喔！ |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:24.105000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:30.430000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們是以114年的三兆一扣掉一兆八了，就是依法律義務剩下一兆三…… |
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0.516 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:30.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:31.430000+08:00 |
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統統都影響，都你在說的…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:30.610000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:32.712000+08:00 |
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一兆三裡面的各項計畫必須刪減28%，所以各計畫影響面，第一個，我們原則是平均刪減，因為還沒討論到底刪減哪一個計畫，所以我們必須詳細討論之後…… |
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0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:32.712000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:32.932000+08:00 |
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你到底跟他們討論了沒？ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:47.663000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:49.004000+08:00 |
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目前還沒有討論，但是…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:49.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:50.905000+08:00 |
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討論了沒？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:50.905000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:53.226000+08:00 |
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討論的時候，就是目前一般性原則是通案刪減28%，3,753億就要刪減28%。 |
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0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:53.226000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:53.566000+08:00 |
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主計長，每一個計畫都要刪減28%，這樣就對了？ |
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0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:53.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:54.566000+08:00 |
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對，沒錯。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:53.626000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:53.666000+08:00 |
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這樣子7,599億就不對啊！ |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:53.806000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:50:55.788000+08:00 |
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你總共就三千七百多億而已，你怎麼會變7,599億，為什麼這樣子呢？ |
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0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:55.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-30T09:50:59.037800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
恐嚇老百姓！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-30T09:50:59.037800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:51:02.287600+08:00 |
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不是這樣子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:02.287600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:51:05.537400+08:00 |
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這部分是受影響的項目，但影響的部分就是28%，我這樣再補充說明…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:05.537400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-30T09:51:08.787200+08:00 |
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28%怎麼來？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:08.787200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-30T09:51:12.037000+08:00 |
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28%就是以3,753……扣除法律義務的一兆八，剩下一兆三…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:12.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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2024-12-30T09:51:38.968000+08:00 |
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這數字……副秘書長，你也當過副主計長，你們這些報告可以看嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.68 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:39.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-12-30T09:51:41.269000+08:00 |
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總共1頁、1張紙啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:42.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-12-30T09:51:46.753000+08:00 |
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有夠不負責任，對主席大不敬，對我們財委會大不敬啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-12-30T09:51:47.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:09.130000+08:00 |
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今天叫你提一個因應財劃法修正，預算是否需要重編，因為你們說要重編，結果你們的報告總共就1頁，然後有關係的只有在第3段寫了一下，簡單來講就是不接受，你的意思用白話文講就是不接受。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:11.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:12.573000+08:00 |
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副秘書長，你們不接受，是不是這個意思？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:14.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:17.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
跟委員再次說明…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:17.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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2024-12-30T09:52:18.479000+08:00 |
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不接受，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:18.799000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:26.026000+08:00 |
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發言人的原意，是對未明定施行日期所會產生的嚴重衝擊表達憂心啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:26.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:27.847000+08:00 |
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就是不接受嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:28.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:30.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
就是不接受嘛！對吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:30.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:31.110000+08:00 |
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你就是不接受！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:33.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:49.477000+08:00 |
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這是全國最高的民意機構通過的法律案，然後你一下子草草的幾個字「不接受」，意思就是不接受，好，那行政院準備怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:50.437000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:50.937000+08:00 |
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請問你要不要提覆議？ |
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0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:52:51.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-12-30T09:52:52.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
要不要提覆議？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-12-30T09:52:56.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:01.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
跟委員說明一下，因為行政院還沒有收到財劃法修正的公文…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:01.653000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:02.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你已經在講不接受啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:04.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:04.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
收到以後…… |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:05.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:09.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
收到就是提覆議對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:09.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:15.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
我們收到以後會在憲政賦予的權力之下，合法的秩序之下，尋求各種…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:15.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:17.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
你們也知道覆議你們絕對輸的啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:18.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:20.684000+08:00 |
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所以就提釋憲，好，重點在這裡，講清楚喔！ |
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0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:20.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:21.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
那在這段時間就不能實施，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:21.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:22.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
副秘書長，我問你是不是在你們提覆議、釋憲後的這段時間，新的財劃法不能實施，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:22.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:24.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我們會循著合法的憲政程序來提各種救濟。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:24.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-12-30T09:53:49.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你當過副主計長，你知道嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-12-30T09:53:49.222000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:00.646000+08:00 |
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現在來講，如果你提釋憲，整個就是要pending，等於三千七百五十幾億就暫時的pending在那裡。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.761 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:00.646000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:54:19.354000+08:00 |
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如果再配合已經沒有法源的大法官會議，用8個舊的大法官，如果又把它解釋說要暫時處分，這樣就不算、沒了，就這個樣子，所以你要考慮一下，現在預算還在審喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:19.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:19.935000+08:00 |
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預算還在審喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:19.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:20.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
預算還在審喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:20.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:21.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
你這是什麼意思？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:21.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:22.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你剛才列出來影響的七千多億，這也是都嚇唬老百姓啦，然後是不是新增計畫都要停擺？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:22.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:23.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
來，副秘書長講一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
李副秘書長國興 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:23.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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2024-12-30T09:54:26.732000+08:00 |
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因為剛剛主計長也說明過了，那個是他們挑出來受影響的計畫，裡面影響的金額約略會有28%受到影響，並不是全部。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:52.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2024-12-30T09:54:53.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
7,599億，幫你統計，是這個樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2024-12-30T09:54:53.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:09.922000+08:00 |
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主計長，你可以看到，請問你有沒有對各縣市的主計人員下達命令？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:10.683000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:19.931000+08:00 |
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比如說，臺北市、臺南市、高雄市，對這些主計人員說要配合修法，有沒有做這個事？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:20.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:20.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:20.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:22.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
有沒有下達命令？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:22.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:23.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
目前還沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:23.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:24.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
都沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:24.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:25.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
所以等於視此事如無物啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:25.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:26.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:26.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:27.453000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
然後我還聽到一個，你們主計總處準備要砍地方政府的計畫型補助。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:23.916000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:28.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我們目前只有做調查，就是說增加的財源，縣市希望要做哪些項目。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:28.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:29.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
他們把調查結果給你沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:28.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2024-12-30T09:55:30.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
目前正在彙總當中。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2024-12-30T09:55:49.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:00.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我去問過幾個縣市，他們說錢只要下來，他們馬上辦追加預算，地方政府一點都沒有問題，可以辦追加預算，一聲令下，辦追加預算，都沒有問題！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:09.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:14.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
所以我強烈的質疑，不要亂砍計畫型的補助喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:15.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:16.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
要砍哪一些？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:16.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:19.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
你剛剛講7,599億，那個叫亂嚇人！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:19.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:25.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們來看，其實要調整的就該調整啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:29.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:35.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
針對台電，郭智輝部長講了N次，它可以借錢，你們為什麼給它追加預算1,000億呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:37.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:37.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
暫緩啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:37.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:38.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
台電1,000億的增資暫緩啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:38.267000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2024-12-30T09:56:42.851000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
潛艦2,800億，國防委員會已經講了分3期，不要一次通過2,800億，分3期，九百多暫緩，以緩濟急，加起來就3,000億啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.707 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-12-30T09:56:44.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:06.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
然後經濟部、數發部亂補助一通，加一加，簡單得很，三千七百多億湊一湊就有了，用不用心？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.694 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:06.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:06.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
回到第1頁，哪裡有這個東西？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:06.824000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:57:09.165000+08:00 |
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你們就是用這個來恐嚇老百姓、來整老百姓：你看喔，租金補貼喔！ |
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0.923 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:57:09.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:57:10.165000+08:00 |
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喔，你看喔，少子化喔！ |
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0.25 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-30T09:57:09.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:09.665000+08:00 |
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喔，你看喔，污水處理喔！ |
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0.667 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:09.865000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:10.145000+08:00 |
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恐嚇老百姓啊！ |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:32.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:32.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
報告委員…… |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:32.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:36.386818+08:00 |
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你們沒有認真去思考怎麼樣用你們的角度配合修法通過，給它做適當的處理，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:36.386818+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:40.235636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
結果一來就大筆一畫，你們都有影響喔，大家統統砍28%，大家就拚命叫，沒有立法委員說要砍國防預算啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:40.235636+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:44.084455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:44.084455+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:47.933273+08:00 |
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所以國防預算兩千九百四十幾億是假的咧！ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:47.933273+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:51.782091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
勞保的撥補1,200億，這是假的咧！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:51.782091+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:55.630909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
社會住宅補貼400億，這個是假的咧！ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:55.630909+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2024-12-30T09:57:59.479727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
這根本就不是這樣子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2024-12-30T09:57:59.479727+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:03.328545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
就隨便這樣講，你們是專業啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:03.328545+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:07.177364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
主計長，有委員還替你講話，說你人很老實，可是我看你一點都不老實喔！ |
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0.034 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:07.177364+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:11.026182+08:00 |
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在政治鬥爭喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:11.026182+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:14.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
你這些完全是政治鬥爭的語言，你聽我講完，不要急。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:14.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:15.996000+08:00 |
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這完全是政治鬥爭的語言喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:16.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:22.699000+08:00 |
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我們要砍也要砍可以找到錢、不會影響民生的、不會影響國防的，你怎麼大筆一揮，說會影響？ |
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0.865 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:40.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:43.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
這個叫隨便亂講，這是用政治語言！ |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:44.825000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:50.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
陳主計長，原來我對你印象還不錯，但是你提供這個表，老實講，讓我對你的評價腰斬！ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:50.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:53.689000+08:00 |
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腰斬啊！ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:53.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:54.989000+08:00 |
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你這個叫政治語言啊！ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:55.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2024-12-30T09:58:59.792000+08:00 |
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用政治語言嚇老百姓，說：你看，這會影響喔！ |
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0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2024-12-30T09:58:59.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:01.986333+08:00 |
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少子化影響喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:01.986333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:04.180667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
治安影響喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:04.180667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:06.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
污水處理影響喔！ |
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0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:06.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:08.876000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
沒有立委砍這個東西啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:09.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:17.143000+08:00 |
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就我剛剛講的，回到剛剛那一頁，經濟部的2,000億砍掉了，不要急啦！ |
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0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:17.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:18.584000+08:00 |
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因為它自己可以借錢啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:19.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:19.965000+08:00 |
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它有辦法啊！ |
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0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:20.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:24.609000+08:00 |
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而且你還有歲計賸餘。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:24.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:27.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
來，財政部長，請問你，今年歲計賸餘有多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:29.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:29.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
歲計賸餘是在主總這邊計算的。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:29.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:30.974000+08:00 |
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會有多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:30.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:31.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
今年的歲計賸餘。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:31.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:32.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
報告委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:32.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:33.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
去年是3,000億啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:33.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:34.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
今年是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:34.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:35.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
到現在為止是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:32.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:33.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
到現在為止，114年呈現的是158億。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:33.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2024-12-30T09:59:51.446000+08:00 |
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問的是113。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2024-12-30T09:59:51.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:15.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
113是七千多億，但是七千多億那個部分，第一個，要支付三千九百多億的疫後相關計畫，那是特別預算，還有一個就是支應114年的500億，這個部分去支援114年度的預算，還有一個是以前非營利事業減債的部分，我再提供數字給你。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:16.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:17.981000+08:00 |
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主計長，我希望你把我這一句話聽進去。是。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:17.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:18.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
但是我要跟委員報告…… |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:18.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:22.346000+08:00 |
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一開始大家認為主計是專業的，你不要把它搞政治化，你不要齊頭式的統統砍28%，哪裡有這樣子的？ |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:22.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:36.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
預算不是這樣砍的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:36.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:38.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
所以我們要討論，每一個計畫都要討論。 |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:38.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:39.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
預算不是這樣砍的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:39.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:40.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
哪裡是這樣子？ |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:38.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:58.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
我跟委員報告，以減少的結構性，每一年都要減3,753，但是這個部分，縱使台電減2,000億，也是今年度可以減，我沒辦法每一年減2,000億，所以這結構性每年要減3,753的部分就造成影響，這個部分也要跟委員特別說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:58.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:59.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
就財政的部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:59.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:00.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
不是啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:58.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2024-12-30T10:00:58.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
這個是一個資源分配的問題。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2024-12-30T10:00:58.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:09.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
我們三讀通過的法律，你按照一定的程序去救濟，如果到最後輸了，你還是要照做啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:10.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:12.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
你還是要想辦法啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:13.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:14.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
怎麼會砍……對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:14.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:15.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
這影響很大。 |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:14.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:19.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
我剛剛說過了，不是去砍所有的民生嘛，我已經再強調一遍了。 |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:20.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:26.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
經濟部肥肉那麼多，亂補助，還要補助NVIDIA，NVIDIA有多少啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:26.934000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:27.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].text |
它有幾兆美金啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:28.656000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:29.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
還稀罕你那麼一點點錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:29.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:34.402667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].text |
補助NVIDIA、補助AMD，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:34.402667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:39.589333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
這些東西的補助統統砍，數發部，中華電信很賺錢啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:39.589333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:44.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].text |
遠傳也賺錢，以及台灣大哥大也賺錢，還補助他們幾十億，這莫名其妙！ |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:44.776000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:49.962667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
這些補助砍一砍就有啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
陳主計長淑姿 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:49.962667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2024-12-30T10:01:55.149333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
再跟委員報告，如果砍台電的話，將來也會影響到電價。 |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2024-12-30T10:01:55.149333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:00.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
台電它可以去借錢，它有辦法借錢，它有辦法經營，根本就不是問題，我跟你講。 |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:00.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:09.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
所以，最後一句話，主計長，對外面溝通不要用政治語言，你列出來這個表就是政治語言，這是政治鬥爭用的！ |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:10.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:17.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
我對你今天提出這個表，表達非常強烈的不滿跟遺憾，不要這樣子！ |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:17.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:18.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
因為你也說沒有認真去討論，要認真跟他們討論，各部會願意讓你減，你才來減，還沒有討論，你就列出來了，喔，這也是、那也是，好像整個國家快要失火了一樣，讓人家瞧不起啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0.029 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:18.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:19.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
主計長。 |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:18.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:18.997000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
謝謝賴士葆委員，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2024-12-30T10:02:19.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2024-12-30T10:02:21.782714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
接著請郭國文委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
0 |