| IVOD_ID |
158483 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158483 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-19,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-30T09:36:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-30T09:43:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/358c3f0dd56dd1e05a0736cc950619a883be44f6eda3de937c1494669c19844fcb54f3cad6a66c335ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:36:48 - 09:43:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟、司法及法制兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送公平交易委員會委員提名名單，李鎂續任委員並為主任委員、陳志民續任委員並為副主任委員、洪財隆續任委員，林慶堂為委員，請同意案。） |
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主委還在台上,請龔秘書長一起請龔秘書長跟李美貝提名 |
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秘書長,今天三個黨團到行政院去協商包括公糧收購,那天你也在場那你知道後來農業部把這個公糧收購我們本來要求每公斤調高五塊錢,那調高了多少?背後的方案我自己還沒有看到只有1.81欸 |
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那一天你有沒有在現場?行政院長跟副院長都答應我們的事情,第一個有沒有私訊你立法院?這樣是不是農業部欺騙了農民?農業部當初是講說他會讓農民的所得會比原來更好。沒有,那天我們在觀點就是情形徹徹,包括國民東京民眾黨都要求要達到這個主決議的內容。 |
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你回去跟院長講一下現在包括民眾黨跟國民黨都已經決定農業部的業務費大概會砍掉七成以上特賠費是全砍還有很多重要的只要不影響到農民的這個農業部預算就過不了而且 |
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很多各個部位不當的預算、不爛的預算我們都非常嚴格的監督因為行政院騙了立法委員也欺騙了農民你另外一個重點啊你說現在因為財政措施發文發料行政院說什麼114年度的總預算已經上到禮拜年你們說要重編喔?沒有要重編沒有重編?那進行這些事講完為什麼行政院有這個消息? |
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那只是發言人他的講述說這個因為這個財務法通過以後可能對我們籌編上會有一些困難所以確定沒有要籌編嗎?有確定這是一個那第二個那你說的這個財務法實施以後這個衝擊你們要怎麼解決? |
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因為我們還有一段時間嘛,如果啦,假設是後年才實施嘛,就是等於是後年的預算明年開始對阿,它有一點的緩衝嘛,所以不會影響到議事嘛對不對對,我們會利用3月份到8月份之前我特別提醒,所以第一個確定沒有要重編這個事情第二個明年齁,我看你們現在主計處各個部會都出來在挨說什麼一些重要的項目要重來,我看得非常傷心 |
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主席 |
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大家很關心撲偏島這個事情我問你一個很重要的點進行啊你們說搞不好都要再延60天延到明年的3月21號對不對那後來為什麼這麼快馬上就做了決定這裡面的轉折是什麼 |
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我跟委員說明我們對於結合案件當言則言當決則決因為當事人最後能夠到公平會陳述意見這是必要的正當程序他能夠來公平會陳述意見的時間是12月17號我們的法定應該做審決的時間是19號只有兩天當言則言所以我們必須要延但不是延了90天就一定要用到最後的90天 |
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國外17號來說明以後我們委員會聽過這些陳述的內容我們開委員會注意 包括這些公司來他們有做了什麼說明跟重要的要求這個事業對各界的回應等等都有做說明那經過我們委員會開會討論覺得這個案子限制競爭的利益這個疑慮還是很大所以委員間意見相當共識相當高那當決則決 |
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我再問一個多城市傳銷的這個事情,很多新聞都出現這個,特別很多年輕人啊,學生老是這個,被他們拉進去,我看你們上次有裁判過,在2020.1﹖有,我們裁判最高法定的這個法環﹖最高嘛﹖可是這個事情一直現在進行式啊﹖ |
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所以你是處罰完以後就沒事了?媒體動不動幾天一兩個禮拜就有說學生受害欸?如果繼續有這樣不當行銷的行為,我們當然要繼續查處。另外要請問一下,你知道雞蛋吹現在過剩的價格跌得很慘對不對?我們消費者都沒有,消費者是買那麼貴啊。 |
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所以該彈籠沒有賺到錢然後消費者買這麼貴這要怎麼解決這邊有沒有壟斷的問題公平法有沒有責任如果第一個彈架有特別法在處理如果這個依託特別法的規定而有聯合壟斷的情形公平法也是有處理的你有沒有去查有沒有 |
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我們跟農業部都有這個互相緊密的聯繫所以有去查了嗎?我們有去了解有去查所以目前沒有啊目前沒有為什麼蛋那麼多這蛋農的價格那麼它賣出去這麼低啊我們在這裡賣這麼貴啊沒有查出任何的壟斷或者不當的這個行為 |
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請回座 |
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主委還在臺上，請龔秘書長一起。 |
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請龔秘書長跟李鎂被提名人。 |
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張委員好。 |
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秘書長，上次3個黨團到行政院去協商，包括公糧收購，那天你也在場嘛，我們本來要求每公斤調高5塊錢，你知道後來農業部把公糧收購調高了多少嗎？ |
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龔秘書長明鑫 |
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最後的方案我自己還沒有看到，因為他說12月…… |
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只有1.81耶！ |
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那一天你有在現場，那是行政院長跟副院長都答應我們的事情啊！ |
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張委員啓楷 |
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第一個，有沒有失信於立法院？ |
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張委員啓楷 |
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第二個，這樣是不是農業部欺負了農民、欺騙了農民？ |
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龔秘書長明鑫 |
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農業部當初是講說他會讓農民的所得比原來更好…… |
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沒有喔，那天我們的決定是清清楚楚的，包括國民黨、民眾黨都要求要達到這個主決議的內容。 |
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他說會提配套措施。 |
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你回去跟院長講一下，現在包括民眾黨跟國民黨都已經決定，農業部的業務費大概會砍掉七成以上，特別費是全砍，還有很多很多重要的，只要是不影響到農民的預算，農業部的預算都過不了，而且很多部會不當的預算、浮濫的預算，我們都非常嚴格地監督，因為行政院騙了立法委員，也欺騙了農民。 |
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另外一個重點，現在因為財政收支劃分法通過之後，行政院說什麼？ |
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114年度的總預算現在已經送到立法院了，你們說要重編喔？ |
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沒有要重編。 |
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沒有重編？ |
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沒有，做不到啊。 |
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那這個之前是誰說的？ |
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為什麼行政院有這個消息？ |
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龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:00.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:07.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
那只是發言人的講述，因為財劃法通過以後可能對我們籌編上會有一些困難。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:07.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:09.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
所以確定沒有要重編嘛。 |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:09.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:10.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
沒有、沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:09.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:10.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
有確定，這是一個。不會。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:11.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:13.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
第二個，你說的財劃法實施以後，這個衝擊你們要怎麼解決？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:16.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:24.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
因為我們還有一段時間，假設是後年才實施，就等於是後年的預算明年開始編嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:24.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:25.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
對啊，有一年的緩衝嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:25.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:26.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
對，我們會利用…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:25.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:27.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
所以不會影響到114，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
龔秘書長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:27.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:30.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
對，我們會利用3月份到8月份送之前，我們趕快…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:31.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:34.206000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
好，我特別提醒，所以第一個，確定沒有重編這個事情。沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:34.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:42.632000+08:00 |
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第二個，我看你們現在主計總處、各個部會都出來在哀說什麼明年一些重要的項目被砍，要重來，我看了非常傷心，因為你們現在提的都是最重要的，像醫療裡面強調重病的病患，還有新藥那一些，那都是人命關天的事情，和勞保的錢，你要砍也應該要砍那些不當的，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.355 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:42.632000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:48.226600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
就是浪費的、有弊案的啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:48.226600+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:53.821200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
怎麼會去砍那些跟人民最有關的？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:53.821200+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-30T09:39:59.415800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
明年在編的時候，就先從不當的、浮濫的、弊案，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-30T09:39:59.415800+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:05.010400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
好，那我趕快問一下李鎂被提名人。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:05.010400+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:10.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:10.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:19.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
大家很關心foodpanda這個事情，我問你一個很重要的點，之前你們說搞不好要再延60天，延到明年的3月21號，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.78 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:19.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:21.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
那後來為什麼這麼快就做了決定？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:21.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:21.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這裡面的轉折是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:27.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:53.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我跟委員說明，我們對於結合案件當延則延、當決則決，因為當事人最後能夠到公平會陳述意見，這是必要的正當程序，他能夠來公平會陳述意見的時間是12月17號，我們的法定應該做審決的時間是19號，只有2天，因為當延則延，所以我們必須要延，但不是延了90天就一定要用到90天的最後1天。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:53.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:54.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
所以後來這個國外公司有來？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.167 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:53.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:55.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
在國外公司17號來說明以後，我們委員會聽了這些陳述的內容，我們開委員會，大家的…… |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.735 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:55.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-12-30T09:40:57.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
主委，國外這個公司來，他們有做了什麼說明跟重要的要求？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-12-30T09:40:57.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:22.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
這個事業對各界的回應等等都有做說明，那經過我們委員會開會討論，覺得這個案子限制競爭的疑慮還是很大，所以委員間的共識相當高，當決則決，所以我們就做了決定。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:22.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:24.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
好，我來問一個多層次傳銷的事情，主委，你知道愛妮雅吧？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:30+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:37.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
在很多新聞都出現這個，特別有很多年輕人、學生老是被他們拉進去，我看你們上次在111年（2022年）有裁罰過。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.854 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:38.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:40.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
有，我們裁罰最高法定的罰鍰。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:41.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:42.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
最高嘛？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:42.764000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:44.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
可是這個事情一直是現在進行式啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:45.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:47.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
所以你是處罰完以後就沒事了？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:47.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:48.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
我們請他要改正。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:47.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:49.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
媒體動不動幾天、一兩個禮拜就有報導學生受害。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:49.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:50.011000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
如果繼續有這樣不當行銷的行為，我們當然要繼續查處。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:50.111000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:51.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
好，我問最後一個問題，雞蛋現在過剩所以價格跌得很慘，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.654 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:51.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:52.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
對，價格是有一些浮動…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-12-30T09:41:51.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-12-30T09:41:51.753000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
可是我們消費者買的蛋還是那麼貴啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:08.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:13.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
所以蛋農沒有賺到錢，然後消費者買的價格這麼貴，這要怎麼解決？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:13.383000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:14.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
這裡面有沒有壟斷的問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:14.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:15.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
公平會有沒有責任？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:17.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:26.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
第一個，關於蛋價有特別法在處理，如果逸脫特別法的規定而有聯合壟斷的情形，公平法也是有處分的空間…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.795 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:26.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:26.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你們有沒有去查？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:26.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:27.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
為什麼…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:27.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-12-30T09:42:32.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我們有去了解，我們跟農業部都有互相緊密的聯繫，如果有聯合…… |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:32.704000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:34.025000+08:00 |
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所以有去查了嗎？ |
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1 |
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李鎂被提名人 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:34.025000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:35.166000+08:00 |
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我們有去了解、有去查。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:35.387000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:37.449000+08:00 |
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所以目前沒有，如果目前沒有，為什麼蛋農賣出去的價格這麼低，可是我們在這裡買的價格這麼貴？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.725 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:37.469000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:37.849000+08:00 |
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你們都沒有查出任何壟斷或者不當的行為？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:37.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:38.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我們跟農業部都有緊密的合作，如果有聯合壟斷…… |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:38.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:39.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
你們去查了沒有？ |
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0 |
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張委員啓楷 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:39.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:40.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
你們是不是還沒有查？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:40.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:41.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我們有去了解，目前看起來並沒有集合起來、聯合壟斷的情形。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:41.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:42.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
OK，那要怎麼辦？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:42.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:43.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
要怎麼解決這個問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:43.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:44.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我們這樣買的價格這麼貴，結果蛋農又賺不到錢，再去查一下好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:44.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:45.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
特別是看有沒有壟斷。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
李鎂被提名人 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:45.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:46.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我們會繼續了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
張委員啓楷 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:46.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:47.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
好，謝謝。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:45.301000+08:00 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:45.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
好，謝謝，請回座。 |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2024-12-30T09:42:45.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-30T09:42:48.412429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
下一位請呂玉玲委員。 |
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0 |