| IVOD_ID |
158369 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158369 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-23T11:21:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-23T11:33:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22e1e1eefcdc7a9870c99b91e23e6be0c24503a7538def0615d69c0b6ad2f3dba13a5c1b9de804d05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:21:54 - 11:33:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「兆豐金控及臺灣證券交易所投資之台北金融大樓股份有限公司2024年營運成效、2025年度經營計畫與展望、暨跨年晚會煙火表演規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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前陣子有公布今年的稅收超收到10月底超收5100億現在有沒有最新的數據今年會超收多少錢 |
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那個時增數超過預算數我們分兩塊一塊是全國部分一個就是中央政府部分那剛才委員講的應該是全國那部分的預估數啦到現在還不確定因為還沒有結束嘛那但是 |
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五千億還在往上走嗎? |
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就是大家基本上就是我們預估的全年大概是4900全國數大概4900到5100之間那如果是這個中央數的話大概是3000多啦3500到3700之間那我要跟委員特別說明一點就是說這個只是總預算的一部分總預算的一部分雖然總預算 |
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市長!市長! |
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今天我一開始要問你最重要的政府現在是有錢的而且超收的金額是很多的遠超過現在被扭黑被扭曲的財化法修正以後增加了3700億你們現在最保守的5000億去算啊 |
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聽我講聽我講明年的稅率超收的錢至少多了1400億出來這代表什麼不是像聽我講不是像卓院長講的什麼國庫變空虛國庫在明年可以用的錢更多啊沒有沒有沒有如果有的話我們不會有什麼意見啦我就剛才跟委員報告嘛 |
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那就是稅收只是總預算的那稅入的一部分他加進去以後齁加進去以後我們的總預算齁其實還是有一個短差還是有一個短差不要把這五千億又去浪費掉錢就會剩下來沒辦法直接這樣用然後更重要的不是只有錢增加了稅增加了你以前一些浪費的腐爛的你是光電的弊案超市的弊案光是那個一千億要拿去補台電的 |
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從民進黨執政陳水扁時代當總統就有財政收支法案法的版本啊 |
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林全當行政院長,蔡英文要上台他要我去辦公室,我們談了很久蔡英文本來也應該有裁判好的版本啊你們的部長在這邊接受我質詢的時候也說問題都慢慢解決了,要版本啊他在拜訪我們黨團,我跟他講他是壞版本啊結果到現在為止 |
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行政院版、財政部的版本在哪裡?你們這麼嚴重失職,所以你們不要再...你們自己不上車,變成幾萬人是嚴重失職的,所以不要再抹黑財化法。第二個,第二個,我問你一個最簡單的事情。 |
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為什麼到現在沒有提出來?最重要的人是賴清德總統我給大家看一下賴清德在當臺南市長2012年他講說啊財化法是一個不公不義的惡法他說當總統的當總統的如果沒有看到地方的問題財政不足財化法跟公債法怎麼可以不夠呢?如果不處理 |
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289.083 |
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就是中央想集權又集錢對他的統治比較方便一個賴清德我們要相信哪一個賴清德第二個我要相信哪一個財政部之前跟我講說要提版本的我叫你回去趕快去看以前陳水扁提過版本看年前提過版本你們答應我要看要提到現在也沒有你們是有嚴重失職然後你到現在還 |
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說三道四還在抹黑財化法我們沒有抹黑啦那我是覺得財化法是這樣啦財化法不是在財政部來講不是說不能修不是不能修而是說要充分討論所以我們在過去25年來25年來經過多少討論我剛已經跟你講了市長 |
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312.387 |
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現在全民最關心的臺灣是個寶島可是有天災地變地動我們的行政委員會快點說以後 |
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臺豐地震來了地方要自己去面對我問你一個最重要的你財政部到底沒有足夠的財源給我們政府給人民我們以後天災真的就沒地震來了財政部的財源不足夠去救災嗎我給他看一下來請大家注意看在921發生大地震的時候後來政府編了一千億 |
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364.7 |
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377.63 |
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921震災的災禍重建基金特別預算有錢嗎?那時候的李登輝政府為什麼錢可以編?第二個今年用今年當例子今年我們很不幸發生了花蓮的大跌宕 |
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政府機關、中央機關包括交通部、衛福部、內政部各個機關馬上找出了88.5億、還有中央特種基金84.65億 |
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401.101 |
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416.693 |
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前專跟以後的特別預算有1.01億包括中央統籌分配稅款特別的中央統籌分配稅款他拿了50.1億出來中央準備金、中央的二倍金、震災基金加起來你說的285億為什麼今年發生花蓮大地震 |
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有285億在那為什麼行政院長可以跟我們講一要地方自己要去面對問題現在修法以後就不一樣了修法以後你你垂直釋出3753億中央對地方的資源的能量來市長你看你看我給你的資料你看來來等一下等一下等一下市長講這個非常嚴重看一下促進你的意思來來回到上一張促進你看一下上一張你的意思是 |
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經過這次財政收支方法修正以後中央機關的公務預算不要再編錢第二個破種基金不要再編錢 |
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483.395 |
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中央政府的第二億北京也不要編權?不管地方的災變了嗎?這個,對不起,我沒有講這樣的話你剛剛的意思是這錢沒有了嗎?這份是主計總署的資權,我沒辦法替他回答第一個,今年有的,明年不能少,對不對?第二個,這是法令的預算欸 |
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當行政院長講這個話就變成第一個不只是失言被罵是冷血的院長而且是違背法令的院長所以我明確的要求鄭重要求行政院長卓永泰為你的失言人民的生命安全重大的災害你在上面做政治操作你把話說回去吞回去趕快跟人民道歉市長你剛也失言了 |
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你根本意思經過財務法真的這些預算明年不編嗎?我沒有這樣說是不是要編?市長你看一下這些項目要不要編?市長你看一下這些項目要不要編?市長你看一下這些項目要不要編?市長你看一下這些項目要不要編?市長你看一下這些項目要不要編? |
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編譽算不是我們財政部的全財務財政部財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務財務 |
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第一個在今年我們現在立法院正在審的總預算書裡面這些項目都在不只今年的這些項目在明年也在啊所以怎麼會沒有救災的錢怎麼會有卓榮泰講的颱風地震來自己要面對第一個這個是法令上這是違法如果這樣做是違法的第二個這樣講把政治操作在人民的這個痛苦之上這是冷血是違法所以於外面要求他道歉要請院長道歉吞回去 |
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那個次長你回去看一下剛剛我們的對談你是不是也是認為說沒有錢可以編了你沒有 如果有這樣講的話你要不要給他更正好不好這個我剛才已經講過了那個次長好啦 之前我做個簡單的這個結論第一個 中央財政收支發布法已經25年沒有修了這個是不分黨派的你民進黨沒有萬年執政的啦 |
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民進黨如果變在野黨的時候你就會發現說這是這個修法讓地方可以自治中外錢下放可以照顧地方的這個所有的這個縣民縣市民眾他到時候會鼓掌的看國家要制度化要長遠啊因為民進黨現在執政你以前賴清德你自己當台南市長你當行政院長都是要修當了總統就換一個腦袋嗎特別嚴重的是這天為什麼講這麼激動不要再抹黑不要再扭曲這個才華法好不好這個是長久以來 |
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要落實地方自治要關心地方的因為臺灣就是一個中央集錢又集錢的地方嘛全世界很少國家這樣子所以25年來多少人要求要修不是就政黨、學者專家我們辦兩次聽證會你也在多少學者專家說趕快修我跑那麼久的政治新聞寫了三本書我說這次的財政收支方法能夠修是歷史上難得的一個機會百年難遇因為三黨不過半 |
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張啓楷委員是不是尊重其他委員的一個花園好不好?好 謝謝好 謝謝啓楷委員接著我們請楊瓊英委員花園 |