| IVOD_ID |
158367 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158367 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-23T11:00:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-23T11:12:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22e1e1eefcdc7a98c057c594f44b79b4c24503a7538def0615d69c0b6ad2f3db1356525e4f663e885ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:00:47 - 11:12:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「兆豐金控及臺灣證券交易所投資之台北金融大樓股份有限公司2024年營運成效、2025年度經營計畫與展望、暨跨年晚會煙火表演規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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臺北金融大樓甲董事長 |
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今天委員會排了就是我們一個臺北金融大樓的一個煙火的專報所以我想先請教一下甲董就是您有沒有原住民朋友 |
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那我想請教一下,就是今年的煙火 |
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伍麗華S |
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有沒有機會用一些原住民的鼓調我覺得我跟你的想法真的是太一致了應該是說我其實這一次比較因為其實您知道嗎在音樂的規劃上面必須要一個比較長的時間因為有很多版權的問題還有公播的問題我們都要去處理那其實原住民這一塊我真的有想到 |
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我必須跟您說是我自己有一個協會是專門在幫助臺東的偏鄉的一些心靈教育的部分那因為其實您知道原住民的孩子他們的歌聲是最pure最好聽響亮的歌聲那有一次呢他們就寄了 |
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我會問這個問題是認為您應該去接納這樣的觀點 |
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我可以再宣傳一下 |
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我們台北101在12月這個歲末年終的時候呢我們在每個禮拜六禮拜天我們在我們的這個四樓的一個舞台我們特別打造了一個夢想舞台我們邀請了很多的原住民的孩子然後一起到這個舞台來表演那其實他們都非常興奮能夠有機會來到台北101能夠站在這個舞台那我們也有跟民視合作都有直播那這個活動呢我覺得是非常的有意義好 |
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謝謝您的思維,我們拭目以待。接下來我請教一下我們次長,其實我非常關心這次財化法之後,我非常關心這次財化法之後,原鄉所受到的衝擊,所以我有一些問題想要請教您。 |
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因為我們都很清楚知道中央的錢是用來調節地方的一個財政不均的狀況那這幾年我在立法院我也感受到了可是呢我先講一件事我一直很關心我們六都之後有一些原鄉變原區他其實財政稅客的部分奏降為零 |
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那這個部分我提出版本大家也都說很合理很應該可是我在上個禮拜五最後的時刻我看到竟然最後用一個更三的方式的最後的版本寫說不予採納那我就非常的驚訝 |
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也就是說大家願意讓這種不合理的狀況繼續的放任他繼續存在我覺得非常的漠視我們原住民的權益 |
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可是我要說的是現在更慘因為以前他們變成必須要仰賴大量的中央補助因為有時候我們的市政府可能他沒有辦法去補足這個部分就要必須仰賴大量的中央我們看一下這個原鄉的財務結構 |
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如果是以鄉來看他有百分之五、六十以上他都必須要仰賴中央的補助可是為什麼我很關心六都合併之後的園區因為他更慘他幾乎百分之九十要仰賴中央的補助要不然他的財政非常的困難可是這下子 |
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我們的中央錢也變少了能夠挹注給他調節的部分也沒有那麼自由了我請問一下次長你怎麼看這個問題 |
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我知道委員長期關心這個原住民的這個原鄉的相關的財政的問題那麼在歷次的包公聽會或者是質詢那麼委員也多次表達這樣的意見那這些意見沒有最後沒有被納進去那麼我們覺得非常遺憾非常遺憾 |
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那未來將來就是就像剛才委員提到的中央因為這次的修法他在垂直這部分要多釋出3753億然後呢一般補助款又不能減少在這種情況之下中央補助地方的能力的確會受到減弱那次長我就是關心這個問題你講到重點公道之後什麼時候要施行 |
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如果真的公告的話目前是這樣目前的最後一條是說公布日施行公布日施行對公布日施行3700億 |
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各部會要怎麼分?怎麼抽? |
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447 |
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各縣市怎麼分配因為我們原住民族人我們其實是分布在全國的各縣市我們的計畫都是跨年度、跨縣市的居多而且非常的仰賴中央的補助現在公道施行3700億我們在這邊談的預算可能是一個玩笑 |
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到底要怎麼重新分配怎麼重新抽但是以原民會來講我們族人非常非常仰賴的像是這些原住民族博物館他會被受到影響?會嗎?如果是計畫我想那應該是計畫性補助那基本補助的話就是這一部分他是跨年度 |
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對,計畫性補助那這一部分就是說將來可能我們會跟主席總書這邊做一個這個完整的一個盤點我直接給您看一個表啦您看一下那個畫面你看我們類似這樣的一個跨年度 |
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伍麗華S |
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還有這一些原住民文化知識體系甚至是我們的原語會、原民台等等這一些我們很多的計畫即將要上路的社會安全網我們的博物館我們最需要的聚會所、特色道路移居計畫這些建設類等等等還有這些文化藝術家他們的相關計畫、產學計畫哇 |
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市長我只是要跟您講3700億要重新分配重新抽我們原鄉怎麼辦我們已經是最弱是最慘的一群受到我們需要仰賴中央補助怎麼辦 |
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我們現在中央面臨最大問題就是那多出來多釋出的財源要從哪邊去補啦 |
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兆豐金控及臺灣證券交易所投資之台北金融大樓股份有限公司 |
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相對的他失去的是什麼是了解所以這個部分事權的部分完全沒有談沒有隨之調整是這是我們感到很憂心的地方那國家到底會受到什麼衝擊影響那我現在就是很關心說至少給我們一份報告 |
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可以嗎?我們現在先盤點出來像我們的農路我們需要最希望的水保署我們的農水署、水利署 |
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我們很多很多原鄉仰賴的我現在很緊張所以我希望至少應該給我們一份報告讓我們可以跟族人來說可以嗎這一部分我是不是讓我容許我帶回去我跟族總那邊來回答你們要給啊那就是跟族總一起給好不好我們至少需要而且呢我覺得地方政府是人質的 |
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我至少安心錢在中央啊公開透明有預算法有財政紀律法有受監督我至少安心對我來講但是地方人質之後地方政府地方議會經常是我們詬病啊就是威權的遺毒黑金盤踞的地方財政不透明甚至很多地方議會連轉播意思都沒有 |
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我緊張啊你看我園區都不給我了我仰賴中央現在中央也沒有了所有的園鄉未來都會跟六都的園區一樣所有的園鄉都會如此所以這個部分我希望給我一個報告好嗎 |
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那接著我們請鄭正全委員花言 |