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| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:31:52 - 09:46:44 |
| 影片長度 |
892 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會、銀行局、證券期貨局、保險局、檢查局收支部分。（僅詢答）
二、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央存款保險股份有限公司。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分，有關金融監督管理委員會主管：（僅詢答）
(一)特別收入基金－金融監督管理基金。
(二)信託基金－保險業務發展基金。
【預算提案截止時間：12月19日（四）中午12時】
【12月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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主席有請金管會的彭主委彭主委委員早早啊你早啊我想美國人都很關心啊昨天明明美國是降息的一般來講降息股市是正面翻硬了結果它暴跌了一千多點喔那 |
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你能不能以你的專業跟你的資訊我想比較多你能不能告訴我們主要的原因到底是什麼一個原因就好不會講很多一個主要是什麼就我剛才有提到當然這個股市是很敏感就是說 |
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本來預期我們的降息速度會快一點但是呢這樣那個降息大家預期會放緩那我是看到這樣當然有很多原因比如說包括未來川普政策的不確定性剛剛還有委員講的年底的這些作帳畢竟聖誕節很多的問題都是很複雜的你講聖誕節難道這些投資人都放下去了嗎就是他們很多像比如說我們到年底的時候他們就會開始 |
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市場預期就是一碼 |
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跟市場預期沒有什麼不一樣就是一碼但是大家會看到明年有人提一個東西叫點陣圖知道嗎點陣圖裡面從點陣圖看出來說未來如果按照這樣來講未來 |
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應該是要降四碼結果變成只降兩碼這個你同意不同意?當然是很多種說法啦我可以說有一種說法就是本來預期就是說應該會很快一點但是未來到明年大概也是會比較放緩尤其未來像我們上次在針對比如說美國未來的政策在報告的時候也有說 |
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其實雖然這樣預期但是未來以他很多政策說按照媒體這樣講的話比如關稅拉高通膨增加這時候你說要這樣其實就可能是有點困難就是說很多的原因混雜在一起CPI阿美國的通膨其實是嚴重的啦到現在為止尤其加上大家看到川普未來加關稅嘛川普講過一句話嘛 |
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有關金融監督管理委員會主管中華民國11年度中央政府總預算案 |
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這你同意吧當然這也是一種說法很多種說法當然我想華爾街本來就是是一個有買有賣反正這個是一個市場我想我們華爾街挺川普是對的嗎當然外界是說因為因為未來川普會鬆綁金融業的一些的所以大家預期說還有對很多的產業所以等於是等於是大家來看的話就美股川普上台之後應該是 |
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掌勢可期 |
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加密貨幣跑這個也是原因之一我想因為如果從整個交易量來看的話整個資本市場來看的話現在交易量當然還是一個相對比較低還是個位數當然以他的速度來看確實引人矚目比如說現在往那個虛擬資產方向移動的速度確實是因為他基期比較低但是從個整體來看他還是一個比較低的水位 |
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而且它越來越多的開始商品慢慢用加密貨幣囉對吧我們也有觀察到這樣的一個發展好我們來看喔這個跟沒有關係喔現在有幣多啊債權很搶手這個這裡面來講就等於說用USDT啊 |
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太達幣基本上就是等於1比1對美元是1比1差不多結果譬如是說用太達幣給他然後比如說他約定這個一個月內或者是90天他給你4.5%或者是這個120天給你5.5%甚至於更高 |
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這個你們管不管啊這個是所謂的DeFi的部分必然他如果說是一個在虛擬世界可以交易的對象自然有人欠有人要還就是就像我們比如股票有借券跟借那個就是那個那個概念是一樣因為所以說呢沒有問題這管不管啊現在的話我們的交易你們管不管請問我們現在在交易你是我們現在說按照我們的那個VASB的部分我們這DeFi的部分我們現在有 |
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不要跟我講那個是防那個是防洗錢的跟這個關係不大現在來講的話因為他推出的我表沒有秀出來這大家google一下看得到嗎他這裡面都他是保本穩賺就是你只要把錢給他比如說45天或者是50天60天他就給你4.5%喔 這樣好慘捏保本穩賺這個東西 |
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現在的話就是說跟我們報告就是我們現在確實我們台灣現在已經跟他講跟Vespa有關是因為現在我們真的有這樣的一個比如說交易平台也有這些轉換商這些我們這些我們所謂的虛擬資產服務業者現在正在經營我們就算我們還是可以在買賣這些幣有買賣以後呢他就衍生出很多的比如說他的衍生出的一些金融行為像借貸 |
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這個就是其中的一個那就是批土批啊也不是批土就等於說在那個某種程度是這個意思啊怎麼不是呢請問他到底你們管不管這個到底管不管現在我們的交易的部分我們現在是你看到這個現象沒有這個是很普遍在那個對然後你不管我們現在是因為他整個交易我們是有納管的 |
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有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央政府總預算案有關金融監督管理委員會主管中央政府總預算案 |
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這個穩賺不賠的利率耶雖然短時間不高4.5有的高一點點5.5還要更高的啊這個東西很危險的這個東西他就跟供需有關我跟委員報告就是我們現在明年6月我們在我們現在正在嚴定這個虛擬財產管理專法的部分我們就會把define的部分呢會把它規範進去 |
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所以你們要管這個是未來一定是變成是一定是必然我們看國際的趨勢就是說他會衍生出來一些交易那你管的方式就是讓他基本上他是合法的是不是我們通常合法的前提就是你要合規啊就是前面有一些規矩他合不合規請問他合不合規有些規矩啊我們要定出來才合規那如果合規的話第三方支付比如說這某一個平台 |
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我買東西我放一萬塊在哪裡我用了兩千買東西剩八千八千他拿去投資他給我固定的利率4%可以嗎這個你說不行啦第三萬支付過去你就說不行這個就逼逼託你就可以了這奇怪的咧 |
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我沒有說可以我只是說我們未來的專法的時候因為這個是全世界在演化中的東西我們在專法的時候我們會把未來的像比如說這所有的虛擬資產的相關的那個課題考慮進來我想這部分什麼時候可以出來啦這個專法什麼時候出來我們現在草案正在討論中什麼時候出來我們預期是1月的時候會開始公聽然後6月的時候我們會送進行政院6月送進行政院關於關於什麼 |
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526.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
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關於所謂的虛擬資產服務以及那個投資人保護的專法 |
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虛擬資產的交易吧有沒有交易當然交易是其中一部分交易還有它的機構管理機構管理消費者保護消費者保護應該是交易人保護這個1月份開始公定會6月份送到行政院我們的就等於說那你希望行政院什麼時候可以出來這我沒辦法希望我當然希望假設我們送過去的話還有社會的共識第三方支付勒還是不行 |
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因為現在第三方支付是速發部在主管的業務啊所以你不管不是不管就是我們管的是我們自己的彭主委你要注意喔全台灣人民不管什麼第三方支付不管這個圓的邊的大家只要看到錢啊錢啊 |
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在交易啊 大家認為你要管喔這也是我們要特別說明你要管啊 錢 只要錢 你想啥 你要管啊這裡要特別說明了 不是所有錢都是歸金管會我是告訴你 老百姓都認為來來來 第三個我們看一個 你們最近公佈一個東西好奇怪喔全台灣人的人均存款欸 |
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601.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
臺北市存款925萬台北市的一個人 |
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如果夫妻兩個人就1800然後第二名是新竹市518萬第三名是嘉義市249萬然後第四名在台中市213萬 |
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這宿舍到底是怎麼統計的有沒有包括外幣存款臺北市這個如果大家聽的話大家很挫折了我不知道這一座各位你們臺北市的人存款一個人喔如果你家裡四個人的話你就要3600萬喔你就要快4000萬喔喔 這個東西這你統計是你統計嗎 今晚會統計嗎 |
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委員提到就是說我們下次如果有類似的數字我們可以公佈各式各樣的數據那這樣會比較容易不用導致這樣的一個比如說解讀上面的困擾不是 我就問你有沒有包括外幣存款 有沒有 |
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這我要回去瞭解一下啊你不要去按哪一位現在可以馬上瞭解嗎那我們知道一下我們瞭解完馬上跟委員報告你們為什麼不用中位數呢我們就跟郭泰民平均去跟張作某平均這個沒有道理啊 |
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對不對我跟張忠偉平均一個人900多萬臺北市請問各位大家在看這個直播臺北市民平均一個人的存款現金存款喔現金喔925萬喔我不知道我們主席議員有沒有這麼多喔925萬喔一個人喔 |
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一個人平均在銀行裡面喔銀行局要不要講一下這書是怎麼來的啊你們公佈的欸我不知道為什麼不用中位數啊來講一下為什麼不用中位數啊 |
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沒有沒有我想我們查證一下啦今天就是假設說未來假設真的是我們在出示這些數據的時候確實有不同的參數有不同的含義啦我想這部分我們假設我覺得應該是莊惠素啦因為台北市大老闆太多了啦郭台銘一年的股不只或是張忠謀他們大老闆每年的股利都幾十億元平均 |
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因為談到網營啊也是你們想想的政績之一啊 |
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每一次最高五萬每天最高十萬每月最高二十萬可是你們有一個辦法喔這個辦法就是根據安控基準第八條第二款第四目第四小目跟第五小目說一定的話可以把二十萬提高但是但是銀行都告訴因為這是有人來跟我告狀的 |
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報告委員沒有這個時間上面的限制如果要提高的話是認證的方式要提高平均多久時間 |
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這個應該 如果你約定了之後因為現在有一些防詐的議題所以大概是兩天啦兩天喔對 兩天才能申請來跟我高中的客戶說他要提高為25萬對方告訴他我不要講那些銀行的我都可以跟你講銀行的不要講啦他說要一年 |
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我比較在意那個臺北市居然一個人平均有900多萬阿土西兩個人1800 怕死啦 這裡面可能只有賴慧營有 |
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賴委員、賴委員還有賴總統謝謝 |
| IVOD_ID |
158236 |
| IVOD_URL |
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| 日期 |
2024-12-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-20-11 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-19T09:31:52+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-19T09:46:44+08:00 |
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