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委員名稱 |
邱若華 |
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12:49:43 - 12:58:10 |
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會議時間 |
2024-12-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署署長及桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長就「如何提升過境及轉機旅客入境台灣觀光品質並增加觀光人數」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─觀光發展基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管中華郵政股份有限公司營業預算。
【僅進行詢答;第二案至第四案委員預算提案於12月25日中午12時前截止收件】【12月18日及19日二天一次會】) |
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謝謝主席。主席,有請交通部陳部長,還有觀光署周署長。周署長。會友好。部長好。署長好。先請教部長及署長,您們本身有宗教信仰嗎? |
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兩位都有那因為對於宗教信仰要保持尊重的態度那本席是不會多問那今天要和部長還有署長討論觀光的部分那其中本席想針對穆斯林認證的問題就叫部長還有署長那本席有看到觀光署在2011年開始每年就有編列小額的預算委託中國回教協會推動清真的認證署長您知道嗎 |
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全力在推動預算有限我們有兩個協會一個回教協會一個穆斯林協會2017年起蔡政府當時就有推動新南向的政策穆斯林友善環境也是重點的政策的項目經濟部國貿局也有委託外貿協會成立台灣清真推廣中心 |
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對,我也拜託,因為它的主管機關是在經濟部,那麼我們是拜託相關的,包括它的餐廳、廚房的認證。那伊斯蘭友善環境的認證的單位是否符合標準是由外貿協會來做認定嗎?他們要看什麼太陽,因為基本上我們用餐是一個很重要的。 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算。 |
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東協10國,南亞6國,加上紐澳總共48國。各國所佔的穆斯林人數大概是多少?像泰國的話,它有將近700萬是穆斯林。其實像泰國是一個佛教國家,它仍然有很高的比例。除了我們剛才談到的這些穆斯林國家的人口數,其中最多的是印度尼西亞、巴基斯坦、 |
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還有印度、孟加拉、馬來西亞。這樣子算下來大約的人數是8億以上。那部長和署長知道哈拉跟清真它的差異在哪裡嗎?這個我不知道,署長知道嗎?哈拉和清真,因為剛才署長有提到在…對,所以有一個是,我們是中文的翻譯不同啦。那他們不吃的食物有哪,主要是哪一個? |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算 |
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就是認證的部分是來自於不同的管道的認證所以哈拉的認證是一個認證那穆斯林回教認證是另外一個認證我們先看到哈拉餐廳他主要都要他所有的食材都要通過有一個是中央廚房哈拉 |
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阿拉認證那穆斯林餐廳是穆斯林開設的餐廳那穆斯林友善的餐廳他是可以賣穆斯林他們禁止飲食的餐廳但需要經過嚴密的區隔阿拉認證的部分跟委員報告一下就是在我們叫做在做這個生命結束的時候他要送送可蘭金是對他是很嚴謹的SOP是對 |
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所以一般來講哈拉認證的餐廳的要求是比較高是那我們進來台灣我們要發展觀光那本席要舉幾個例子給部長還有署長知道我們來看到那這間位於宜蘭的餐廳他是穆斯林友善的認證的餐廳那當就我們從照片來看他本身也有販賣豬肉沒有做到區隔處理食材那看起來要他們要做區隔也是不容易的那我們再看到另外一家餐廳 |
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這也是位於宜蘭的餐廳他一樣也是穆斯林友善認證的餐廳他一樣也有販售豬肉他真的能做到食材區隔嗎那我們再看下一家苗栗的餐廳他也是同樣他是穆斯林友善認證那他也有販售豬肉那我們再看到另外一家嘉義的餐廳他也是獲得穆斯林友善的餐廳但一樣也有販賣豬肉那部長署長這樣子會不會太離譜了如果是有具體的話我們就要求下架 |
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那這還不是最離譜的,我們來看什麼是最離譜的。對,他們有一些很嚴格的要求的。是,我們看到還有一個位於嘉義縣的餐廳,它是在觀光署的網站上面有公布,它也是唯一一家獲得HALA餐廳認證的。那餐廳是不可以出現豬肉的嘛,它是最嚴謹的。結果它的菜單有什麼,署長部長您有看到嗎?有,有看到豬肉。有看到豬肉。對,那這樣子, |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算。 |
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我們再盤點一下我又要跟22個縣市政府他們再討論一下是全面清查那如果這個個案的部分我們馬上下架馬上下架對對我們要查證一下馬上下架那為什麼會有這麼離譜的事情因為我們的餐廳也確實有百頁啦那很多人對牧師的認知啊也不是那麼嚴謹 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
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所以有些穆斯林的餐廳他只要這樣:主席像署長您提到有些人他吃過邊疏那有些是完全過完瓢盆他都不能使用到那這些就是我們所提到的像哈拉跟清真他們也是非常嚴謹的去做去的對我們講說屠宰的過程中還要送金然後很嚴格的標準是那這個我想說這個還是要按照穆斯林的要求標準來做 |
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為什麼會有這麼離譜的是那剛才這六間餐廳他都是透過伊斯蘭商務發展有限公司所論證那部長和署長你們可以看到這個他們這兩張圖的差異性嗎? |
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三天就可以查證了,這看起來在台北嘛。 |
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委員所講的這個個案,他們可以快速來查證。因為這是外貿協會嘛,所以我們馬上就直接去跟他們聯繫。因為那個在觀光署的網站上面,他是不是參考台灣清真的推廣中心的網站,他們已經有宣告,就是不擔保網站內容的正確性,觀光署也要對網站內容來做檢討。 |
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我們也看到這個對外的貿易發展協會他們也有提出在110年的時候5月6號發文他的發文字號是為外專制第1102301234號他的內容有提到就是他們為了要配合清真寺或是回教團體認證請教長簽名 |
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三天內一定忙,跟委員回報一下。 |
IVOD_ID |
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IVOD_URL |
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日期 |
2024-12-18 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-16 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
16 |
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委員會 |
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23 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
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開始時間 |
2024-12-18T12:49:43+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-18T12:58:10+08:00 |
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