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委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
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11:42:54 - 11:53:02 |
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608 |
會議時間 |
2024-12-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署署長及桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長就「如何提升過境及轉機旅客入境台灣觀光品質並增加觀光人數」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─觀光發展基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管中華郵政股份有限公司營業預算。
【僅進行詢答;第二案至第四案委員預算提案於12月25日中午12時前截止收件】【12月18日及19日二天一次會】) |
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謝主席,楊俊文發言,邀請部長。好,陳部長。 |
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委員長我們來討論這個通用計程車的議題因為2025年我們要邁入台灣邁入超高齡那這個數字讓我們也很緊張65歲以上長者比例會超過20%這個緊張是長輩是我們家的寶貝但是我們要怎麼樣讓他們可以生活的非常的安逸這是政府的責任因此我們看到身障人口 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質及所屬單位預算 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部部長陳世凱、交通部 |
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我記得第一台台中的這個通用計程車我們大家記者會都大家很高興大家都去宣傳但是我們看到目前為止部長目前為止我們總共有多少我們的通用計程車僅佔總量的1% |
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政府有一個他的目標,他的KPI。2020年要多少呢?2020年要20%。通貨計程車要佔總量的20%。但是現在我們統計只有1.3%。原因處在哪裡?請問。 |
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報告委員,這個通用計程車確實我們目前的數量不足。原因出在哪裡?原因出在兩個部分,一個部分是說想叫車的人叫不到,那有車的人他也找不到客人,那找不到客人的時候他們願意投入的這個意願就會相對的低。意願低?是為什麼呢? |
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我覺得是他們中間的串接啦,就是說個人跟車隊中間的串接的程度還不夠,所以我們現在正在努力,要做一個APP,我們要做一個APP,做一個平台,讓他們雙方的串接更有效率,這是一方面。部長,你現在的說法本席沒有辦法認同,我們應該要先看你的老年人口,我們的身障的朋友,已經要佔65歲以上是43%, |
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在這樣的情況我們的需求是夠的但是你的供給是不夠的你的供給這1.3%跟你自己政府定的KPI20%落差將近20倍你應該要由這一點去檢討你要怎麼樣讓設備可以足這方面有在檢討我們對於購車的補貼也好或者是說請問購貼補貼這樣一台設備你補貼多少 |
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我目前數字我會後再詳細再跟委員報告我告訴你從12年前政府沒有在追蹤真的讓我們身上的朋友情何以堪從12年前一直有在追蹤我問你多少你都不知道從12年前一台車的設備40萬到現在也是一趟給50塊到現在也是 |
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你12年來你的落差已經那麼大,你為什麼不去檢討?這個部分有在檢討。怎麼檢討?我前幾天就已經找公關的單位有來檢討。怎麼檢討?不是一張50塊而已,我們未來的方式,因為他有時候要去載客人他會空車,空車的里程我們也會寄費給他,也就是說補貼會超過那個50塊啦,空車的部分如果你再加上的話會更多一點。所以對於業者來講,他願意參加的意願會再增加。 |
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你現在告訴本席的說你們朝一到五十在空車的部分我還補貼給你這個方向那車子的部分呢? |
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車子的部分其實跟委員報告目前來申請補貼的其實數量沒有很大。如果真的有需要再提高。議員不高嗎?對,議員不高。那議員不高,你是政府啊。他的議員不高,你要怎麼樣讓他議員高?因為你的終極目標是要協助需要協助的長者跟身障的朋友。對不對?你的目標是這個啊。你既然你的設備都不足,你就一趴。 |
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當然,你的成效會不髒啊。不是,報告委員,我剛剛有講一個問題齁,我們現在要趕快快速解決的是,有車的人找不到客人,有需求的人找不到車,那中間的串接的平台顯然是有問題的。那我們先把中間的串接平台先把它做好,做好一個完整的APP,讓客人隨時預約的到車,那車子也不會變成空車。當他生意很好的時候,他就意願就會提高。 |
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但是我要建議你你要馬兒跑必須要給馬兒吃草為什麼計程車通用計程車他們為了他們的生存他會去轉型因為我要生存嘛計程車世界要轉型我們需要協助的需要做通用的他找不到車 |
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所以會達成三輸的這個情況。請教既然我們討論到這個議題本身非常的關心我們身上的朋友所以請教你們現在所要檢討多久時間會有方案出來給社會大眾 |
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我們應該在這兩三個月就可以有一個方案出來了。在這個兩三個月,就是農曆年的過年過後,大概會是在二月底告訴社會大眾到底要怎麼辦。 |
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我希望因為我們點出這個問題就成為你說的不管是對接有問題不管你在補貼方面人家沒有誘因攻擊跟需求他是沒有辦法去搭搭的而且最糟糕的是什麼 |
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是需求需要供給不夠這個是在我們整個社會面裡頭的邏輯最糟糕的所以我希望能夠在這個農曆年過後可以得到看到你的方案到底是什麼我也要求你先把你們初步的方向先給本席好不好我們繼續來討論我們希望好好的來這個幫助需要幫助的人接下來最後一個議題我要請問我們現在觀光局 |
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十月十六號您說了今年來台的人客數大概是750萬達到你去年約定的千萬目標是沒有辦法達標但是我們今年也就是明年我們現在審明天預算您就希望以千人為目標來努力就很好我們朝我們的目標但是我們根據觀光署的一個統計到八月底本席統計 |
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出入境的逆差達到了641萬人次,它的產值逆差會達到7300億,會創下了歷史的新高。 |
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政經國旅除了靠你來大力的宣導之外你還有什麼樣的方式可以讓這個逆差不要這麼大請做說明 |
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我跟委員報告一下我們在算這個觀光產值的時候我們要分兩個部分一個是英鎊就是入境的你告訴我你跟我爭執數字沒有意義本期是要聽你要怎麼樣能夠將這個逆差我們沒辦法管制國人出國 |
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所以這個逆差這樣算法其實不是很公平的算法但是因為已經算了哇你今天是行政部門你講這個我嚴肅的跟你抗議你當然我們民主國家你怎麼可能去管人家要出國而是你要去理解你今天觀光署你要怎麼樣讓外面的人可以進來而且讓我的國人也可以國旅所以我剛剛特別跟你講了國旅嘛以及你要怎麼樣讓這個逆差減少 |
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我把答案給你了,你還在講這個內容,這個離譜啊!對啊!部長講的就對啊!我希望要聽到這個啊!你不是告訴我我沒有辦法去控制我們的國人要出國!我們是民主國家欸! |
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報告委員我們會盡量國外的宣傳做好然後台灣的亮點做好這兩點是最重要就像你們菲律賓前天啊你發表了一個菲律賓的代言人這個方案不錯所以你應該要怎麼樣去精進各種方案呢你在這邊跟我辯證國人聽不下去的對不對我們希望聽到行政部門你是有方案的所以怎麼樣能夠讓產值的逆差不那麼大 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
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有,我們每年的年度計畫裡面還有部長會在...你告訴針對本席的提問嘛,你多久,你的經濟方案可以跟本席...我們一個月內就提供...一個月內提供嘛,好不好,謝謝。好,謝謝委員。 |
IVOD_ID |
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IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158209 |
日期 |
2024-12-18 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-16 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
16 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-12-18T11:42:54+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-12-18T11:53:02+08:00 |
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