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| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:10:07 - 10:19:28 |
| 影片長度 |
561 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部觀光署署長及桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長就「如何提升過境及轉機旅客入境台灣觀光品質並增加觀光人數」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光署及所屬單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金─觀光發展基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管中華郵政股份有限公司營業預算。
【僅進行詢答；第二案至第四案委員預算提案於12月25日中午12時前截止收件】【12月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席,麻煩我們的陳部長。好,陳部長、周署長。周署長。好,謝謝部長、謝謝署長。人生就是這麼的巧合啦。這個今天我們排交通的觀光,觀光的專題報告昨天上來就宣布要開放來台旅客嘛。那讓大家這個案子變成大家今天討論的一個重點啦。 |
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對於兩岸的觀光現在雙方都沒有全面的開放嘛那我們在討論兩岸的問題的時候您比較傾向於善意的堆疊還是惡意的螺旋我們當然希望善意的堆疊希望善意的堆疊嘛對不對所以從過去從今年開始從福建開放他們的旅客到我們的離島觀光這件事情宣布之後也開始執行之後我們後續有任何的回應嗎 |
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我們歡迎有沒有任何政策上面的回應政策上面的回應有嗎我們在金門跟馬祖開放的部分雖然是陸委會的權責但是我們也善用這個所謂的跟地方政府的合作與推廣的活動這些部分我們都有善用不是善用的回應是我們過去那一邊有沒有任何的回應嗎報告委員目前台灣所有的人民要到中國去旅遊團客的部分啦我覺得說從那時候之後 |
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有沒有任何上面政策的改變?到現在都還有團客在中國旅遊。到現在還有?就之前沒有取消掉的嘛,但現在不能新招來嘛。我是跟你討論政策。從福建開放到我們離島之後,我們這邊沒有任何政策上面的一個回應。好,現在上海的居民可以來到台灣來做觀光旅遊。那我想請教一下部長,您剛剛說您傾向於善意的堆疊而不是惡意的螺旋。 |
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那善意的堆疊現在對岸又釋出了一個善意讓上海來台灣我們這邊會不會有任何政策上面的一個回應針對我們去道路的近環利的方面的調整?會不會有?中國方面有辦法這樣限制他們人民的出遊才能夠例如說開放就上海來台灣我不可能開放就台北。我在詢問中華民國交通部長我不是詢問 |
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中華人民共和國的倫理部長啦,你講在那邊幹嘛?對,那他們堆起來了,我們有沒有任何堆回去?有沒有任何在上面堆回去?好,所以他們的善意,我們並沒有任何的善意回去,你認為對等?那您認為的對等是怎樣? |
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我們的善意其實非常的多啦跟委員報告我們的自由行一直都是開放的他們的自由行到現在沒有開放第二點我們的團客其實3到5月是有開放的他們也沒有任何的這個又在翻舊帳了啦不是翻舊帳部長我們在講善意的堆疊就是你釋出善意我釋出善意而不是說你做了什麼你過去怎麼樣這叫惡意的螺旋好不好部長所以針對上海昨天宣布要來我們台灣之後 |
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我們交通部會不會討論任何的一個政策上面的一個討論來去做相關的回應?會不會啦?目前以我們的理解啦,上海方面的副市長有這麼說了,但他們的文旅部還沒有做最後的決定。好,如果決定了,我們會不會有回應?他決定了我們就會來討論。會討論?會不會適度的放寬?我不會說要求你全面開放, |
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好,那就拜託部長這個您說的話 |
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要做到我沒有叫你全面開放但是什麼樣子的一個上一的回應是讓你認為沒有上司兩岸對等的交流的前提下我們來做一個回應那我跟部長確認觀光的政策開放要不要解除進團令是您可以決定的嗎呃不是單單就交通部的立場就可以決定並不是嗎並不是好那您的立場會是 |
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我們會比較傾向歡迎。 |
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我們過去的淨團令對我們過去的淨團令其實如果中國可以整個開放的話我覺得我們就有那個條件而且要能夠確保我們的旅客的安全的狀況底下我們就會有那個條件可以開放所以您的就是說當然要不要逐步釋出率應剛剛部長有給承諾嘛會討論當然要不要全面開放就是全面的解讀淨團令的前提是大陸方面也有沒有全面解除他們來台的旅客的限制 |
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他們如果可以直接解除對我們來講就是一個很好的善意嘛,那這個部分其實就有對等,那第二對我們來講我們的旅客到中國去要確保他們的安全,因為我們到目前為止確實有看到有一些團客過去中國的時候有被留下來盤查滯留的狀況也是有發生的,我們很擔心我們的團客開放之後過去安全能不能確保,如果能確保當然我們可以朝正向的,好不好? |
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部長我知道政黨會有政黨的堅持,執政黨當然會有執政黨的堅持,那部長你們有沒有統計過因為今年這個大陸沒有開放旅客來台灣,那我們兩岸的觀光逆差 |
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二、審查124年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質 |
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對等的交流,全面開放,這一直是你們的論述嗎?但是我們是中華民國的官員,我們應該要優先考慮我們台灣觀光旅客的一個生計。對岸已經釋出3億了,人願意來了,我不知道他為什麼會挑上海,我在想有一個原因可能是上海的常住人口跟台灣的常住人口差不多,所以他這個可能是他選擇上海的一個原因,我猜的啦。 |
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他認為人口一樣啦那你要不要這個做出善意善意的回應嗎但是對岸沒有的對岸的旅客沒有來台灣的時候受損最大的受損最大的是我們台灣的觀光業者不管是剛剛旅座業者還是我們的觀光業者我們一直在爭取對岸可以開放他們的禁令對所以說我們除了嘴巴講我們也必須要給他們一個適應的適度的善意的對點回應好不好這個就拜託部長 |
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那針對剛有委員提到這個對日的觀光逆差啦我們大概一年的觀光逆差會到多少?可能以今年來說?目前來講的話我們去的比例確實是比較高對因為會突破出境的啦那入境的話目前大概預估大概140萬是 |
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那產值的部分呢?對,產值的話要算,因為現在目前來講因為幣值啊在日本的因為幣值的關係所以在日本的消費是比較方便對,所以我們要在最後再做統計。好吧,那我當然希望說現在日本跟我們這邊兩邊的觀光旅客是沒有任何的限制。那既然我們去了那麼多的 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加觀光品質並增加 |
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三方面的我們的旅客一直過去他們這邊來的人數非常的少。好吧那最後問部長一個問題那在大陸的禁止我們禁止他們的人民來到台灣的這部分的這段期間有沒有任何的旅團的申請觀光簽證到呃跟我們台灣方面來申請有沒有任何的觀光簽證申請 |
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有專案的部分我們是有但是都是專案觀光目的事業主管機關如果是我們觀光的相關業者的話那當然是觀光署來合是 |
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那他們都是有那所有送的你們都有合嗎還是有部分沒合只要我們觀光署都有合只要是觀光的目的他們過來我們台灣的那有些需要簽證的有些參訪的話對對有些參訪我們觀光的部分都會合好謝謝那就麻煩部長剛剛一開始您講的3億的堆疊是比2億的螺旋提升更好那我希望不是嘴巴講而是實際的作為好不好謝謝好謝謝委員 |
| IVOD_ID |
158202 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/158202 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-16 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-18T10:10:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-18T10:19:28+08:00 |
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