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| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:51:29 - 14:59:31 |
| 影片長度 |
482 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）委員賴士葆等31人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員賴士葆等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員張智倫等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員張嘉郡等23人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員賴士葆等26人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條、第三十八條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員邱鎮軍等25人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（八）國民黨黨團擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員林思銘等26人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員陳超明等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）委員許宇甄等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十二）委員黃健豪等18人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十三）委員張智倫等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三條、第八條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十四）委員馬文君等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十五）委員傅崐萁等21人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十六）委員王鴻薇等25人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十七）委員黃建賓等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十八）委員陳玉珍等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十九）委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（二十）委員羅智強等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
二、併案審查
（一）委員李彥秀等18人擬具「公務人員任用法第三十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員翁曉玲等22人擬具「公務人員任用法第二十八條之一條文修正草案」案。） |
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謝謝主席我們請這個學習部副部長麻煩部長 |
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部長今天在談這個年金的改革跟反改革的部分請你看幾篇的這個圖片第一個這個馬英九在當總統的時候他有講說不好意思這個照片弄得比較黑一點點但是沒有其他的意思年金改革一定要做今天不做明天就後悔這是馬英九在當總統的時候2012年說的 |
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然後呢另外一個是前副總統吳敦義他說的2016年年金改革一定要快做否則將成為國家的未爆彈這是國民黨在不論是馬英九或是吳敦義時代的時候都說年金要來改革然後呢在2012年11月的時候馬英九他說這個年金制度不能垮也不會垮政府要提出務實可行的改革方案請國人放心 |
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然後呢在2013年1月的時候那馬英九又講了他說這個年金改革呢這個政府掛保證安心30年騰騎下一代若不及早改革未來年金制度可能會面臨破產的風險強調改革的迫切性這個都是在國民黨在執政的時候他們也認為說如果年金不改的話 |
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撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一． |
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撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一．一． |
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撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一）委員賴士葆等19人擬具 |
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那時候民進黨這個通過這個年金改革的時候在野黨有沒有去做這個釋憲? |
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那時候應該這樣講在馬總統的時代他送出法案到立法院但是立法院並沒有完成審查所以應該就沒有釋憲的在民進黨通過的法案之後確實是有釋憲在2019年這個大法官8月781、782、783那我看了一下 |
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法律不受既往、信賴保護原則、比例原則、憲法保障人民的財產權,都合憲嗎?對,那個三號解釋都支持合憲,因為我們有很多避難緩降的措施,就是說知道要改,但是我們有一些提議很多這種配套的方案,所以大法官是支持的是合憲的。 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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我再請教一下如果按照現在國民黨想要修的這個版本來講的話大概整理一下有三個重點第一個所得替代率要停止減少從明年的元旦開始就是停止因為每年降一趴就要把它停止第二個 |
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這個月退休金隨著物價機制調整將這個CPI消費者物價指數的累積成長率拿正負5%的標準再往下縮減有的到2%有的到3%不定第三為月退金給付金額緊綁連線我們是四年檢討一次然後還要縮短 |
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那這三個大概是他們的這個原則啦那我請問一下部長那如果通過之後會有什麼樣的影響我想最終還是第一個的衝擊啦第一個因為你如果停止調降的話那未來基金預注的錢就會更少了所以大概預估有2800億在50年左右所以因此會提早用盡這個4到5年嘛我想主要是這樣一個也可能至於說我看媒體有在講就是說如果是按照國民黨版本通過的話大概 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 «公務人員退休資遣 |
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檢討根據一些建立一些對基金財務狀況的指標的monitor然後根據那個做出一個結論說基金的財務缺口還是大到應該還是要繼續但是應該要持每年都要持續根據這些指標來觀察 |
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檢討報告 |
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所得替代率的計算實際上已經高於民意的替代率那部分的退休者的實質金額甚至逐年增加若替代率不再降低那對於這個民間的這個勞動者那還有其他職業年金參與者的公平性該如何去做衡評 |
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我覺得這也是一個在討論基金的時候除了基金本身的財務面以外很多人關心的是說那到底直接拿多少錢那我覺得這是公共議題的討論大家應該充分討論那我們很負責任的提出報告大概平均呢現在是七成以上的人大概是五萬塊以上五萬多塊那我覺得五萬多塊是不是足以支撐一個人個人 |
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撫卹法第十七條條文修正草案案 案件中﹚立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會 |
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那我們跟其他OECD國家比起來咧?我們其他OECD大概是50幾%到不到60那我們其實雖然降到60%但是換算成真正的實質的話大概七成啦OK好 謝謝部長謝謝主席能夠讓我們充分的這一個討論這不像樓下這個內政委員會四分鐘講一下然後主席站起來就消音這個這邊是謝謝主席啊謝謝各位委員因為今天人數比較多所以我們會會比較 |
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法定人數不足 |
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| IVOD_URL |
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| 日期 |
2024-12-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-18 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
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| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-05T14:51:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-05T14:59:31+08:00 |
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