| IVOD_ID |
157900 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157900 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-05T13:49:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-05T13:58:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/66a8e59aed318d21e42cc16888bb80b2d143e698449c70dc90a1da7b6f6bcb9de3ceebef6e54c8ad5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:49:26 - 13:58:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、併案審查
（一）委員賴士葆等31人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員賴士葆等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員張智倫等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員張嘉郡等23人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員賴士葆等26人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條、第三十八條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員邱鎮軍等25人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（八）國民黨黨團擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員林思銘等26人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員陳超明等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十一）委員許宇甄等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十二）委員黃健豪等18人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十三）委員張智倫等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三條、第八條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十四）委員馬文君等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十五）委員傅崐萁等21人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十六）委員王鴻薇等25人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十七）委員黃建賓等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十八）委員陳玉珍等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
（十九）委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十八條條文修正草案」案。
（二十）委員羅智強等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案。
二、併案審查
（一）委員李彥秀等18人擬具「公務人員任用法第三十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員翁曉玲等22人擬具「公務人員任用法第二十八條之一條文修正草案」案。） |
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條文賴士葆等19人擬具:「公務人員退休資遣撫卹 |
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委員吳安來部長吳安吶這個我們大家都是學者出身吶我們就講一些講實際的數字吶吼你今天從頭到尾一直在講一直在講一句話我們聽了好幾次吶說如果stop here請問如果現在年改就stop here然後這樣子要提前多久破產 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 «公務人員退休資遣 |
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撫卹法第十四條條文修正草案案（事由．立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具 |
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撫卹法第18條條文修正草案．立法院第12屆第13條條文修正草案案。 |
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你不要以為你部長在這裡人市場底下做光做火多了你不敢退啊你們的人不敢退啊新的人上不來啊都被你們擋住了你聽我講完都被你擋住了沒有位子去了被人擋住了沒有位子去了就是這樣啊你擋住年輕的位子啦你知道嗎你就是這樣子 |
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撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案案 案。 |
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現在教授薪水跟我那時候離開學校差不多沒有多少所以 也是破產啦 |
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撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一）委員賴士葆等19人擬具:「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一）委員張智倫等16人擬具:「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一）委員 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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老保他本身就是自己本身會去做處理的話你贊不贊成你贊不贊成你不贊成嗎老公還跟你抗議喔老公跟你抗議喔老公抗議喔我想政府一定會必須要處理勞勞保這邊的我早上已經講了勞動部長昨天在立法院公開承諾絕對不會動勞保所有的勞工一塊錢 |
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政府負最後的責任很好沒有人反對請問你同意的話能不能用在公教人員可不可以政府負最終責任絕對不會倒一百四十年也不會倒今天才有意義今天站在這裡才有意義否則你都會說的司部長都會說的還是會倒啊還是會倒啊 |
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負擔公務人基金的最後一個責任但是我們要政府要不要負擔公務責任要不要法律是這樣規定的要不要法律本來就規定要不要如果這樣子的話我們要窮盡各種可能性如果這樣子就不會倒啦 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具:「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案．一）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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但是你剛才講了一句話政府負最終責任所以不會倒所以這叫假議題我想大委員這樣假議題可能不是當然是這樣子所謂政府負咱最終責任是指我們都要先努力讓這個責任永續經營就應該負自己的責任最後不得已才有政府負最終責任我想法律的邏輯應該是這樣子 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 «公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案案案案案案 |
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撫卹法第十七條條文修正草案．一）立法院第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會 |
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立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會及法制委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會 |
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勞保可以每年補一千多億為什麼公務的退府基金到現在為止都還不需要政府撥補然後你不願意給他stop herestop here也只到一百三十五年距離現在也有十幾年的光景了你是在緊張什麼對不對所以這個東西扯太遠只剩下一個政治鬥爭你們現在這個讓軍公教很心寒的就是 |
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獨厚勞工然後專門殺軍工匠 |
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458.397 |
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我為什麼早上提了民進黨在過去的兩千年開始台灣真的大幅的民主化之後到現在二十從兩千年開始佔據二十五年的光景民進黨執政十七年軍公教都是大家的子民啊中華民國的子民不是說軍公教一定挺誰挺誰是部長這個東西要拿掉啦大家學者出身要講真話 |
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三）委員張智倫等16人擬具 |
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對我還講到大家先自行自己的基本責任也不夠就是政府要負最終的這是法律的規定政府要負最終的責任就是大家都不會倒你們政府講那麼多大家就安心了嘛啊怎麼都不會倒啦啊所以可以stop here 不會倒啦差五年沒有差那麼多啦有差那麼多嗎 沒有因為你為了這五年 |
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撫卹法第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會第18次全體委員會 |
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撫卹法第十七條條文修正草案． |
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賴委員士葆 |
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非常感謝我們主席睿智的安排，也讓小弟我能夠提早來講一下話，我想請一下施部長。 |
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主席 |
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1 |
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麻煩部長。 |
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施部長能傑 |
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委員午安。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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部長午安。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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我們大家都是學者出身，我們就講一些實際的數字，你今天從頭到尾一直在講一句話，我們聽了好幾次了，說如果現在年改就stop here，這樣子要提前多久破產？4到5年。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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4到5年，那是什麼時候？ |
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施部長能傑 |
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1 |
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估算大概135年左右。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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135年左右破產，那如果沒有呢？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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沒有的話就是加5年，就140年破產，對不對？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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那也是破產啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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不管你有沒有stop here都是破產。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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目前你講這個制度有多好，你講到世代的時候說大家都領得到，領不到啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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按照你的都不改好了，140年也破產，也是破產，對不對？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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那現在什麼後遺症出來？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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現在老的不退了，你說年輕人領不到，現在是年輕人沒有工作啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你不要以為你部長在這裡，人事長底下做官做多大，你不敢退啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你們的人不敢退，新的人上不來，都被你們擋住了。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你聽我講完，都被你擋住了，沒有位子去了，被人事長擋住了，沒有位子去了，就是這樣啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你擋住年輕人的位子，你知道嗎？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你就是這樣子。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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以前的公務員錄取率不到10%，現在17%，大家都不來了。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你也是我們學校的教授出身，我們都知道很清楚，多少的教授放棄美國高的薪水，放棄新加坡高的薪水來臺灣，看到的就是我們比較好的退職制度。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:51:38.080333+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:51:54.679000+08:00 |
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結果你現在砍掉，大家不想來了，現在可憐啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2024-12-05T13:51:54.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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2024-12-05T13:51:58.784000+08:00 |
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大家都教授出身的，現在教授的薪水跟我那時候離開學校差不多，沒有多少，所以也是破產啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2024-12-05T13:51:58.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:02.082118+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
沒有多厲害，沒有領永遠，差5年而已啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:02.082118+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:05.380235+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
但是差在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:05.380235+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:08.678353+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
差在讓老百姓覺得這個政府有血性。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:08.678353+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:11.976471+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
請問你認不認同勞保的撥補？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:11.976471+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:15.274588+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
勞保到現在已經撥補了2,600億左右，明年還要撥補1,380億，你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:15.274588+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:18.572706+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我想勞保…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:18.572706+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:21.870824+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:21.870824+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:25.168941+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
勞工的base跟公務員的base當然不一樣啊！ |
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0.045 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:25.168941+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:28.467059+08:00 |
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不是，我問你嘛！ |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:28.467059+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:31.765176+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:31.765176+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:35.063294+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我想撥補我們的公務人員，這部分也有提到說…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.211 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:35.063294+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:38.361412+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:38.361412+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:41.659529+08:00 |
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我問你，你回答我的話嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:41.659529+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:44.957647+08:00 |
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大家都教授，不要閃，你就回答我贊不贊成勞保的撥補，贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:44.957647+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:48.255765+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我想這個是政府去處理整個勞保的方式…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:48.255765+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:51.553882+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:51.553882+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:54.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
你一直沒有回答我贊不贊成啊！ |
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0.077 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:54.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:57.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
勞保它自己本身會去做處理以外…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:57.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:58.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2024-12-05T13:52:59.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2024-12-05T13:52:59.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
你贊不贊成？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:00.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:02.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
你不贊成嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:02.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:02.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
勞工跟你抗議喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:02.857000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:06.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我的意思是說，那不是我管理的啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:06.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:06.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
勞工抗議喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:07.060000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:11.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我想政府一定會需要處理勞保這邊的…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:11.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:23.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
我早上已經講了，勞動部長昨天在立法院公開承諾，絕對不會動勞保，所有的勞工一塊錢，政府負最後的責任，很好，沒有人反對。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:23.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:24.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
請問你同樣的話，能不能用在公教人員？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:24.407000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:24.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
可不可以？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:24.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:25.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
政府負最終責任，絕對不會倒，140年也不會倒，今天站在這裡才有意義，否則部長都是多說無益，還是會倒啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:45.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:48.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
法律本來規定政府負擔公務人員基金的最後責任，但是我們要…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.654 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:48.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:49.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
政府要不要負擔最後責任，要不要？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:50.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:51.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
法律是這樣規定的。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:51.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:51.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
要不要？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:52.008000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:55.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
法律本來就規定，但我們要窮盡各種可能先去努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:55.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:56.514000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
如果這樣子的話你矛盾啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:55.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2024-12-05T13:53:56.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
如果這樣子就不會倒啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2024-12-05T13:53:56.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:01.963875+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
如果這樣永遠不會倒啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:01.963875+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:07.532750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我跟委員報告，財務上還是要自己先努力，如果全部都是政府負擔最終責任，就是所有納稅人大家一起來負擔最終責任。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.061 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:07.532750+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:13.101625+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
當然是這樣子啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:13.101625+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:18.670500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:18.670500+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:24.239375+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你要了解為什麼勞動部長敢在那裡承諾，說政府絕對負最終責任，勞保絕對不會倒，大家安心。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:24.239375+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:29.808250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
勞保早就倒了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:29.808250+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:35.377125+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
勞保要不是補了兩千多億，加上明年要補一千多億，早就倒了，每年都要撥一千多億給勞保，不然就倒了。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:35.377125+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:40.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
勞保已經倒了，公務體系還沒有倒，要到140年，按照你們的算法。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.125 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2024-12-05T13:54:40.946000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:45.930000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
但是你剛剛講的那句話，政府負最終責任，所以不會倒啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.826 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:46.951000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:48.992000+08:00 |
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所以這個叫假議題啊！ |
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0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:48.992000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:51.274000+08:00 |
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我想委員這樣講假議題可能不是好的刻畫啦！ |
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0.684 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:52.254000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2024-12-05T13:54:54.136000+08:00 |
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當然是這樣子啊！ |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
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2024-12-05T13:54:54.316000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:06.465000+08:00 |
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所謂政府負擔最終責任，是指我們自己都要先努力，讓這個基金能夠永續經營，就應該盡自己的責任，最後不得已才由政府負最終責任，我想法律的邏輯應該是這樣子啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:06.465000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:15.926889+08:00 |
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政府窮盡一切的努力，包括基金去賺更多錢，包括什麼等等，就是不要讓它破產。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:15.926889+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:25.388778+08:00 |
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但是按照你們不改，也是140年要破產，所以政府也是要擔，距離現在只有十幾年的光景，也沒有多厲害啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:25.388778+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:34.850667+08:00 |
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所以一樣「龜笑鱉無尾」啦！ |
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施部長能傑 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:34.850667+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:44.312556+08:00 |
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我想這是從2000年以來，所有的政黨都在努力，在想辦法讓基金永續經營。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:55:44.312556+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2024-12-05T13:55:53.774444+08:00 |
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為什麼會過？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2024-12-05T13:55:53.774444+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2024-12-05T13:56:03.236333+08:00 |
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因為是在民進黨多數暴力底下硬通過的，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:56:03.236333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:56:12.698222+08:00 |
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施部長，你要認識一個現實，韓國的總統尹錫悅要解散國會，部隊開到國會裡面，人民保護國會，國會力量人民最大。 |
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0.043 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2024-12-05T13:56:12.698222+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2024-12-05T13:56:22.160111+08:00 |
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新的國會產生，你要面對新的民意，這個新的民意就是stop here。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:56:22.160111+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:56:31.622000+08:00 |
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stop here，我們沒有辦法再生活了，stop here這是新的民意告訴你，你堅持只是因為蔡英文的面子在那裡，否則到現在每年說有多讚多讚，GDP都每年4%又4%，賺錢賺到「油洗洗」。 |
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0.025 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:56:31.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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2024-12-05T13:56:41.847000+08:00 |
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勞保可以每一年補一千多億，為什麼公務的退撫基金，到現在為止都還不需要政府撥補，然後你不願意給他stop here。 |
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0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2024-12-05T13:56:42.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2024-12-05T13:56:47.749000+08:00 |
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stop here只能到135年，距離現在也有十幾年的光景，你是在緊張什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2024-12-05T13:56:47.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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2024-12-05T13:56:48.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所以這個東西扯太遠，只剩下一個政治鬥爭。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2024-12-05T13:56:48.229000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:00.598000+08:00 |
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你們現在讓軍公教很心寒的就是獨厚勞工，然後專殺軍公教。 |
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0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:04.397000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:14.845000+08:00 |
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我為什麼早上提了，民進黨在過去的2000年開始，臺灣真的大幅的民主化之後，到現在從2000年開始，展現25年的光景，民進黨執政17年，軍公教都是大家的子民啊！ |
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0.967 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:15.025000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:16.386000+08:00 |
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中華民國的子民，不是說軍公教一定挺誰，施部長，這個東西要拿掉啦！ |
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0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2024-12-05T13:57:16.406000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:16.846000+08:00 |
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大家學者出身要講真話，不要只有顏色啦！ |
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0.588 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2024-12-05T13:57:16.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:27.466000+08:00 |
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我們都在大學任教，應該知道我不會是這樣的想法，我很負責的在提出這個專業性的報告。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:27.466000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:38.086000+08:00 |
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很負責請你去看看勞保，人家怎麼講，你剛才講了一句話，施部長這句話你沒有否認喔！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2024-12-05T13:57:38.086000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:48.706000+08:00 |
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最後政府要負責任對嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
施部長能傑 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2024-12-05T13:57:48.706000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:53.388000+08:00 |
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對，我還講到大家自己先負自己的責任，不夠就是政府要負最終的責任，這是法律的規定。 |
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0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:53.468000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:55.829000+08:00 |
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好，政府要負最終的責任，就是大家都不會倒，你這句話說出來，大家都就安心了嘛！ |
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0.758 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:56.069000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:56.269000+08:00 |
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怎麼搞都不會倒啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:56.589000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:57.749000+08:00 |
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所以可以stop here，不會倒啦！ |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:57.869000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:58.149000+08:00 |
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只差5年沒有差那麼多啦！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:58.309000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:58.710000+08:00 |
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有差那麼多嗎？沒有。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:58.750000+08:00 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:58.850000+08:00 |
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你為了這5年背負了，特別施部長你喔！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:57:59.350000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:03.921429+08:00 |
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還有我們的人事總長，我有加一個總喔！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:04.221429+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:09.650000+08:00 |
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你們不要變成一個專門殺軍公教的劊子手喔！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:09.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:17.092857+08:00 |
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製造軍公教跟勞工矛盾的劊子手，大家現在面對你們兩個喔！ |
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| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:17.392857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:20.535714+08:00 |
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一個施部長，一個人事總長。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:20.835714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:30.835714+08:00 |
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記得，人家都要記住你們兩張臉，這件事從善如流，面對新的國會，要stop here。 |
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0 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:31.135714+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:36.564286+08:00 |
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stop here，因為日子真的很難過，謝謝。 |
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施部長能傑 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:36.864286+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:37.864286+08:00 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2024-12-05T13:58:38.164286+08:00 |
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1 |
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2024-12-05T13:58:42.450000+08:00 |
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謝謝，下一位我們請洪孟楷委員發言。 |
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0.133 |
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賴委員士葆：（13時49分）非常感謝我們主席睿智的安排，也讓小弟我能夠提早來講一下話，我想請一下施部長。 |
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主席：麻煩部長。 |
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施部長能傑：委員午安。 |
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賴委員士葆：部長午安。我們大家都是學者出身，我們就講一些實際的數字，你今天從頭到尾一直在講一句話，我們聽了好幾次了，說如果現在年改就stop here，這樣子要提前多久破產？ |
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施部長能傑：4到5年。 |
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賴委員士葆：4到5年，那是什麼時候？ |
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施部長能傑：估算大概135年左右。 |
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賴委員士葆：135年左右破產，那如果沒有呢？沒有的話就是加5年，就140年破產，對不對？那也是破產啊！不管你有沒有stop here都是破產。目前你講這個制度有多好，你講到世代的時候說大家都領得到，領不到啦！按照你的都不改好了，140年也破產，也是破產，對不對？ |
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那現在什麼後遺症出來？現在老的不退了，你說年輕人領不到，現在是年輕人沒有工作啊！你不要以為你部長在這裡，人事長底下做官做多大，你不敢退啊！你們的人不敢退，新的人上不來，都被你們擋住了。你聽我講完，都被你擋住了，沒有位子去了，被人事長擋住了，沒有位子去了，就是這樣啊！你擋住年輕人的位子，你知道嗎？你就是這樣子。 |
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以前的公務員錄取率不到10%，現在17%，大家都不來了。你也是我們學校的教授出身，我們都知道很清楚，多少的教授放棄美國高的薪水，放棄新加坡高的薪水來臺灣，看到的就是我們比較好的退職制度。結果你現在砍掉，大家不想來了，現在可憐啊！大家都教授出身的，現在教授的薪水跟我那時候離開學校差不多，沒有多少，所以也是破產啊！沒有多厲害，沒有領永遠，差5年而已啊！但是差在哪裡？差在讓老百姓覺得這個政府有血性。 |
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請問你認不認同勞保的撥補？勞保到現在已經撥補了2,600億左右，明年還要撥補1,380億，你贊不贊成？ |
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施部長能傑：我想勞保…… |
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賴委員士葆：你贊不贊成？ |
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施部長能傑：勞工的base跟公務員的base當然不一樣啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：不是，我問你嘛！你贊不贊成？ |
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施部長能傑：我想撥補我們的公務人員，這部分也有提到說…… |
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賴委員士葆：你贊不贊成？我問你，你回答我的話嘛！大家都教授，不要閃，你就回答我贊不贊成勞保的撥補，贊不贊成？ |
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施部長能傑：我想這個是政府去處理整個勞保的方式…… |
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賴委員士葆：你贊不贊成？你一直沒有回答我贊不贊成啊！ |
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施部長能傑：勞保它自己本身會去做處理以外…… |
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賴委員士葆：你贊不贊成？你贊不贊成？你不贊成嗎？勞工跟你抗議喔！ |
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施部長能傑：我的意思是說，那不是我管理的啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：勞工抗議喔！ |
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施部長能傑：我想政府一定會需要處理勞保這邊的…… |
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賴委員士葆：我早上已經講了，勞動部長昨天在立法院公開承諾，絕對不會動勞保，所有的勞工一塊錢，政府負最後的責任，很好，沒有人反對。請問你同樣的話，能不能用在公教人員？可不可以？政府負最終責任，絕對不會倒，140年也不會倒，今天站在這裡才有意義，否則部長都是多說無益，還是會倒啊！ |
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施部長能傑：法律本來規定政府負擔公務人員基金的最後責任，但是我們要…… |
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賴委員士葆：政府要不要負擔最後責任，要不要？ |
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施部長能傑：法律是這樣規定的。 |
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賴委員士葆：要不要？ |
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施部長能傑：法律本來就規定，但我們要窮盡各種可能先去努力。 |
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賴委員士葆：如果這樣子的話你矛盾啊！如果這樣子就不會倒啦！如果這樣永遠不會倒啦！ |
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施部長能傑：我跟委員報告，財務上還是要自己先努力，如果全部都是政府負擔最終責任，就是所有納稅人大家一起來負擔最終責任。 |
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賴委員士葆：當然是這樣子啊！對不對？你要了解為什麼勞動部長敢在那裡承諾，說政府絕對負最終責任，勞保絕對不會倒，大家安心。勞保早就倒了啊！勞保要不是補了兩千多億，加上明年要補一千多億，早就倒了，每年都要撥一千多億給勞保，不然就倒了。勞保已經倒了，公務體系還沒有倒，要到140年，按照你們的算法。但是你剛剛講的那句話，政府負最終責任，所以不會倒啊！所以這個叫假議題啊！ |
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施部長能傑：我想委員這樣講假議題可能不是好的刻畫啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：當然是這樣子啊！ |
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施部長能傑：所謂政府負擔最終責任，是指我們自己都要先努力，讓這個基金能夠永續經營，就應該盡自己的責任，最後不得已才由政府負最終責任，我想法律的邏輯應該是這樣子啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：政府窮盡一切的努力，包括基金去賺更多錢，包括什麼等等，就是不要讓它破產。但是按照你們不改，也是140年要破產，所以政府也是要擔，距離現在只有十幾年的光景，也沒有多厲害啦！所以一樣「龜笑鱉無尾」啦！ |
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施部長能傑：我想這是從2000年以來，所有的政黨都在努力，在想辦法讓基金永續經營。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼會過？因為是在民進黨多數暴力底下硬通過的，是不是這樣？施部長，你要認識一個現實，韓國的總統尹錫悅要解散國會，部隊開到國會裡面，人民保護國會，國會力量人民最大。新的國會產生，你要面對新的民意，這個新的民意就是stop here。 |
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stop here，我們沒有辦法再生活了，stop here這是新的民意告訴你，你堅持只是因為蔡英文的面子在那裡，否則到現在每年說有多讚多讚，GDP都每年4%又4%，賺錢賺到「油洗洗」。勞保可以每一年補一千多億，為什麼公務的退撫基金，到現在為止都還不需要政府撥補，然後你不願意給他stop here。stop here只能到135年，距離現在也有十幾年的光景，你是在緊張什麼？所以這個東西扯太遠，只剩下一個政治鬥爭。 |
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你們現在讓軍公教很心寒的就是獨厚勞工，然後專殺軍公教。我為什麼早上提了，民進黨在過去的2000年開始，臺灣真的大幅的民主化之後，到現在從2000年開始，展現25年的光景，民進黨執政17年，軍公教都是大家的子民啊！中華民國的子民，不是說軍公教一定挺誰，施部長，這個東西要拿掉啦！大家學者出身要講真話，不要只有顏色啦！ |
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施部長能傑：我們都在大學任教，應該知道我不會是這樣的想法，我很負責的在提出這個專業性的報告。 |
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賴委員士葆：很負責請你去看看勞保，人家怎麼講，你剛才講了一句話，施部長這句話你沒有否認喔！最後政府要負責任對嗎？ |
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施部長能傑：對，我還講到大家自己先負自己的責任，不夠就是政府要負最終的責任，這是法律的規定。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，政府要負最終的責任，就是大家都不會倒，你這句話說出來，大家都就安心了嘛！怎麼搞都不會倒啦！所以可以stop here，不會倒啦！只差5年沒有差那麼多啦！有差那麼多嗎？沒有。你為了這5年背負了，特別施部長你喔！還有我們的人事總長，我有加一個總喔！你們不要變成一個專門殺軍公教的劊子手喔！製造軍公教跟勞工矛盾的劊子手，大家現在面對你們兩個喔！一個施部長，一個人事總長。記得，人家都要記住你們兩張臉，這件事從善如流，面對新的國會，要stop here。stop here，因為日子真的很難過，謝謝。 |
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施部長能傑：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝，下一位我們請洪孟楷委員發言。 |
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吳宗憲 |
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賴士葆 |
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翁曉玲 |
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張嘉郡 |
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羅智強 |
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黃建賓 |
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林思銘 |
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張智倫 |
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黃健豪 |
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許宇甄 |
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鍾佳濱 |
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吳思瑤 |
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陳俊宇 |
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莊瑞雄 |
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王義川 |
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李彥秀 |
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吳沛憶 |
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沈伯洋 |
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林宜瑾 |
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陳俊宇 |
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黃國昌 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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洪孟楷 |
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林德福 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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張啓楷 |
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李坤城 |
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林楚茵 |
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張雅琳 |
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黃秀芳 |
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林淑芬 |
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陳秀寳 |
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郭昱晴 |
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陳素月 |
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徐富癸 |
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賴惠員 |
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吳秉叡 |
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許智傑 |
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陳培瑜 |
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郭國文 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、併案審查(一)委員賴士葆等31人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」
案、(二)委員賴士葆等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(三)
委員張智倫等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(四)委員張嘉
郡等23人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(五)委員賴士葆等26人
擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十八條條文修正草案」案、(六)委員徐欣瑩等20人擬具「公
務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條、第三十八條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(七)委員邱鎮
軍等25 人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、( 八) 國民黨黨團擬具
「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(九)委員林思銘等26人擬具「公務人
員退休資遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(十)委員陳超明等19人擬具「公務人員退休資
遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(十一)委員許宇甄等20人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹
法第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(十二)委員黃健豪等18人擬具「公務人員退休資
遣撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(十三)委員張智倫等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹
法第三條、第八條及第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(十四)委員馬文君等20人擬具「公務人員退
休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(十五)委員傅崐萁等21人擬具「公務人員退休資遣
撫卹法第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(十六)委員王鴻薇等25人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法
第三十七條及第六十七條條文修正草案」案、(十七)委員黃建賓等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣
撫卹法第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(十八)委員陳玉珍等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法
第三十七條條文修正草案」案、(十九)委員王鴻薇等19人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十
八條條文修正草案」案、(二十)委員羅智強等16人擬具「公務人員退休資遣撫卹法第三十七條條
文修正草案」案；二、併案審查(一)委員李彥秀等18人擬具「公務人員任用法第三十六條之一條
文修正草案」案、(二)委員翁曉玲等22人擬具「公務人員任用法第二十八條之一條文修正草案」
案 |
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1140301_00001 |