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| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:52:00 - 10:02:06 |
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606 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於中央選舉委員會及所屬單位預算。二、審查「公職人員選舉罷免法」修正草案，計六案：(一)審查委員楊曜等17人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案」案。(二)審查委員蘇清泉等23人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十九條條文修正草案」案。(三)審查委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第五十三條條文修正草案」案。(四)審查委員陳冠廷等25人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第五十二條條文修正草案」案。(五)審查委員許宇甄等39人擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第七十五條及第九十條條文修正草案」案。(六)審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「公職人員選舉罷免法第三十二條及第四十三條條文修正草案」案。） |
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我請李主委跟劉部長好請李主委劉部長好那個 |
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主委跟部長我們今天當然是主要的深水區這我想是選罷法我想請教一下李主委就人民的創制複決權等等的你覺得選罷法如果 |
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審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計六案．計六案．計六案．計六案．計六案．計六案． |
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選罷免的門檻各國規定的標準當然不同詳細的資料恐怕我們還必須要再做彙整我跟您講 全世界如果有這樣我個人所知道沒有說一定要比當選票數要多一票這個很奇怪那為什麼不多5%那為什麼要怎樣我覺得這個是大家可以好好的去探討的一個問題 |
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所以我會覺得說今天這個不是不能討論但是知識體大我覺得這麼一個影響人民他的罷免權 |
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審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．公職人 |
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我認為有兩點可能大家必須要深入的來思考這樣子的修正是否合理第一個就是我一再的強調在投票的時間到真正罷免要投票的時間中間至少要經過一年半這一年半的時間民意有變化了人事有改變了所以你用 |
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一年半以前的民意要來否定一年半以後現在的民意這個是不合理的這是第一點那第二點就是選舉的時候跟罷免的時候他的投票率也好他的當選人的當選的席次也好他參選的人數也好這個基礎都不一樣的所以也會影響到得票數的多寡 |
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二、審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案： 公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案： 公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案： 公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案： |
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選前民調公布日期在世界各國有沒有相同的規定? |
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我們所瞭解的應該有啦,應該有,詳細的資料我們並沒有做收集跟整理。有啦,台灣在制定這個也是參考國外的啦,對不對?因為為什麼呢?這個叫做選前的寧靜。 |
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這是要讓選民知道他的訊息到底是真的還假的讓選民能夠去從眾多的訊息裡面去知道哪一個訊息是真的哪一個訊息是假的他才能夠去判斷他如何去準確的投票主委如果我們現在改成前三日 |
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那在三日前弄一些假訊息假民調你覺得選民有可能在這麼短的時間內去了解這個訊息是真的是假的嗎?主委所以我個人是認為啦國外的規定很多但我們台灣啊十天我覺得是比較剛好啦為什麼?我們兩千多萬人 |
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我們什麼樣的人都有那我們的訊息管道真的太多了還有對其他不友好的國家的認知作戰如果你在選前三天哇 |
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二、審查委員蘇清泉等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蘇清泉等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案。二、審查委員蘇清泉等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蘇清泉等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員蘇清泉等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。 |
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同票數要先驗票然後再來做我不知道內政部跟主委你們的看法 |
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同票數現在是直接抽籤嘛那有人提議說同票數要先驗票之後再抽籤是 那我們會考量到說要公告這個當選人的名單因為你在重新驗票的時候不是我們所想像當中的那麼的簡單包括村里長也是一樣尤其村里長的差差額非常的小 |
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如果全國村里長一致在選舉的期間每個人都重新驗票的話恐怕會影響到地方選委會或是中央選委會要公告當選人名單因為他後面本來就有其他當選無效的這些訴訟的這些處罰的原則所以我們還是希望能夠維持現狀會比較好部長跟主委再給我30秒我覺得啦 |
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你這個東西不能夠縣市長跟縣市議員跟這個等同看待我個人認為如果村里長的部分是有點道理的你與其後面的訴訟冗長然後有很多的東西村里長你要重新驗票其實我說真的兩個小時就可以完成了當然 |
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我們相信選務人員選務人員他的數值都很高這個出錯的機會很少但這不影響公告的時間而且會同票數的整個選舉結果不會有幾個所以我個人覺得這個東西如果你以村里長的角度去看是合理的但是如果以總統 |
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二、審查委員楊曜等二十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。 |
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現行制度是先抽籤抽籤完了你不服氣再來驗票限制是這樣子修改是說不管你同不同意就是先驗票 |
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二、審查委員楊曜等17人擬法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。二、審查委員楊曜等17人擬法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案案。 |
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主委我剛講的是村里長的部分或代表的部分我認同是要先驗票因為選舉人數不多嘛而且我們的選務人員就在那裡這個很重要這個對村里長來講很重要我跟你講這個很重要我認為真的是可以去改變與其後面的訴訟而且也不影響我們公告的時間我們公告的時間至少七天後 |
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審查委員楊曜等17人擬具:「公職人員選舉罷免法第六十七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計六案．計七條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案．計八條及第六十九條條文修正草案． |
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報告張委員您的說法可以商量但是村里長要先寄票重新寄票然後再公告當選那為什麼縣市議員、立法委員和總統也不按照這樣請相關回應用書面好不好所以最好是能夠保持一致的規定跟法律上的施行可能會比較公平我覺得這個可以討論我覺得我們好好討論 |
| IVOD_ID |
157865 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157865 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-15-14 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-05T09:52:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-05T10:02:06+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |