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| 委員名稱 |
吳春城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:51 - 11:16:08 |
| 影片長度 |
677 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-12-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院單位預算案。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮文物藝術發展基金附屬單位預算案。
三、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關國立故宮博物院主管預算(公務預算)解凍案3案。
（第一案及第二案僅進行詢答，相關預算提案請於12月12日下午2時前提出）） |
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委員長請委員長好 |
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這個恭喜這個故宮要百年喔百年喔但是我不曉得院長百歲宴慶不是百年不能用叫百年喔沒有啦現在百年都是好事啦那那個但是呢不曉得這個院長的心裡是酸甜苦辣是覺得很歡慶還是憂心忡忡 |
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還有沒有百年?充滿了正面的期待我們沒有悲觀的權利,本來就這樣子,政務官都應該這樣子我在問某些部會,就有些部會蠻悲觀的,特別對高齡社會充滿悲觀的想像 |
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高齡基本上來講也是故宮現在主要的服務對象對對對應該是這樣子所以等一下要請院長回答一下這麼大的市場你們怎麼看但是呢我要講今天我要講文化問題在2000年民進黨執政之後我有寫了我有著述文化保台論 |
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以文化為戰略保護台灣 |
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112.202 |
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134.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
那怎麼善用這一個所以在文化寶台當中故宮就是一個戰略的中心這個你認同嗎在2000年之前台灣是華夏文化的燈塔故宮是整個全球對於中華文明的一個一個向心力的地方這在2000年 |
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136.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
152.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
那時候很多路客來台灣看了很感動因為他們在搞文化大革命的時候都把很多的中國文化都把它砸毀了說幸好你們把它拿到台灣來保存在台灣但是現在換我們開始想要搗毀這些文化 |
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157.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
172.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
根文報告沒有這回事但是我知道故宮現在確深不明歷史證明政治蠢人多但是它會造成世上苦人多 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
173.956 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
178.019 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
192.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
210.955 |
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故宮是中華文化嘛,對不對?沒有問題嘛?那是台灣重要資產?這都很確認啦那故宮典藏著這個全世界最龐大的中華文化的魁寶、文化魁寶也世界文明、人類文明的重要遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
212.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
226.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
那所以這個在世界國際的博物館當中就是名列前茅台灣的故宮在國際當中很有地位那要請問院長在當前的台灣政治情勢和氣氛下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
228.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
244.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
目前以中華文物為主的故宮博物院是否會有感到矛盾?站在博物館的管理者的立場我絕對沒有任何的矛盾所以故宮只是一個博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
246.055 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
269.931 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
故宮當然是一個博物館它是一個華夏文化的一個重要的收藏的一個地方不是一個國家文明的一個國家文明的因為故宮地位跟博物館一般不一樣欸為什麼會所以呢這個上次我有問過你們把自己定位是一個博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
271.215 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
275.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
中性的博物館收集來自各地都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
278.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
304.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
這個影響到,這不是只有這樣子,這影響到你的經營策略。我知道,可是如果是說要協力來講的話,新博館協的概念裡面的話,就不會把博館當作一個意識形態的工具,那當然沒有錯啦,它的確是,可是因為新博館協的話,基本上來講,大家不講這個東西。沒有啦,我知道這是你的危難,這個不叫意識形態,國家文明, |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
305.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
305.476 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
議員主席議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
321.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
336.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
故宮過去是外賓參訪台灣的首選我們看本來預估今年應該有170萬的國際訪客來造訪故宮但是截至到我現在的資料是10月14只有70萬一半都不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
337.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
366.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
包括我們的經典的故宮的精選網站瀏覽次數也從過去2021年的327萬次下降到今年54萬次感覺故宮在的吸引力大大下降那為什麼呢?院長沒有吸引力不是沒有吸引力當然沒有錯就是委員也講說不能一直講疫情疫情已經過去了但是疫情的確是有影響所以包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
367.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
387.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管二、審查 |
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397.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
424.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
亮點就是因為你在你會在整個世界爭端的第一線嘛所以呢就是有亮點嘛還沾沾自喜那好這個跳過去這就是我們的問題啦腦袋有問題啦OK外交部最近你們今天八月有12件的文物要歸還給中華民國的中華文物也收到給故宮來典藏欸這個也感覺到很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
426.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
432.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
中華民國的東西或者是中華文物的東西外國的要還為什麼不還給中國要還給台灣故宮 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
435.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
441.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院單位預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
463.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
480.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
最近賴總統說中華民國論述要持續下去這當然就是各自解讀啦各自解讀也不太清楚他講的這句話是什麼意思但總之好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
482.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
507.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
好像是要接受中華民國把這個就是中華民國過去好像跟台灣是一個對立的概念現在想要把它化解一下它的矛盾現在看起來但是話是這樣講實際好像也沒有做但是至少有一個方向那我請問在賴總統這樣的一個方向下故宮是否要調整你的定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
509.753 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
515.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
國立故宮博物院主管故宮文藝術發展基金附屬單位預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮文藝術發展基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
540.309 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
553.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
沒有這個問題因為你本來定位是南院要叫亞洲文化博物館那北院是華夏文化館現在說要把它變成南北院定位一致那到底是誰定位的誰?誰統戰的誰? |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
554.804 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
555.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
主管故宮文物藝術發展基金附屬單位預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
570.598 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
583.792 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
故宮去中化的質疑生在其,所以這一個,現在都在去中,我們課綱也要去中啊,什麼要去中,所以呢,我看你們的報告裡面都不太,寫下筆下字都有小心翼翼 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
596.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案有關國立故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管故宮博物院主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
621.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
644.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
有沒有這樣子你看連那個中生來台只是參訪一下中山女高的學生看到馬龍那個帥哥尖叫馬上覺得我們被統戰了你看網路就論戰成了一個玻璃心就碎成一片你知道故宮現在會不會有這種疑慮呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
650.106 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
651.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
祝福故宮百年,一路好走! |
| IVOD_ID |
157782 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157782 |
| 日期 |
2024-12-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-22-11 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期教育及文化委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-12-04T11:04:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-12-04T11:16:08+08:00 |
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