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| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:25:08 - 13:32:16 |
| 影片長度 |
428 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院公共工程委員會單位預算。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
五、審查113年度中央政府總預算關於國家通訊傳播委員會預算凍結書面報告案計2案。
【第一案至第四案僅進行詢答；委員預算提案於12月16日中午12時前截止收件】） |
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麻煩請那個NCC主秘請黃主秘主秘請問一下剛剛羅志強委員講這件事情你身為NCC主秘有不好意思嗎會不會 |
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會不會 浪費公帑這件事情會不會很不好意思我們是依照規定依照規定 依照什麼規定祖密 之前你們的主委陳耀祥那時候我們問他問題的時候還在硬凹他說沒有啊 我們NCC都勝訴啦我們勝訴是14次啦中天當時是只有兩次 現在是三次你知道他那14次勝訴是怎麼算的嗎你知道怎麼算的嗎 |
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我們的勝訴確實是...你們根本人家沒跟你打官司你勝訴什麼啦沒有打官司你們是把你們裁罰出去人家沒有去跟你訴願的部分全部算作你勝訴有人這樣定義的嗎那現在警察機關每天都在勝訴因為他常開罰單出去只要民眾沒有去勝訴警察機關就是勝訴那警察機關大概是全台灣勝訴率最高的一個機關 |
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可以這樣子定義喔我想當時是也許是比較簡短的敘述了或確實是只有兩件啊那是因為還在訴訟中嘛但是人家一審二審都贏嘛你要凹什麼啊然後現在第三屆人家也勝訴了嘛你們因為什麼理由開罰人家你們因為有一個名嘴叫謝寒冰他評論陳吉仲主委是有史以來最不適任的主委你們講說沒有查證啊所以就開罰啦 |
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請問一下主秘一般我們講話有的時候是描述事實有的時候是個人觀點請問一下謝寒冰他講的是描述事實還是個人觀點是個人觀點還是事實是觀點還是事實他評論陳吉仲是有史以來最不適任的主委是他的觀點還是事實 |
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主秘你在111這麼久你的業務都不熟悉喔?他是事實還是觀點?因為這些所有的內容都經過內容諮詢委員會我就問你嘛我現在問你那問題那麼難回答嗎?他是評論還是事實嗎?這個是他的評論這個是他個人的評論主秘這個是他個人的評論 |
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他評論他認為陳吉仲有史以來最不適應結果你們NCC講說他沒查證所以罰中天請問一下這個東西怎麼查證怎麼查證這個事情不是NCC說的是有民眾檢舉之後我們內容諮詢委員會NCC很多時候民眾檢舉你們也是不處理啦要我們來列舉嗎我們一定會處理對所以你們處理就是你們去裁罰就是你們認為是這樣嘛你們覺得他沒有查證所以你們就開罰了嘛 |
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但是一個評論要怎麼去查證啊還要硬拗114年編801萬的訴訟費用對不對比今年還要高100多萬對不對所以你們繼續就要繼續針對這些荒腔手法的裁罰的理由要繼續上訴繼續要浪費人民的納稅錢了是不是 |
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維持一個政府的行政處分的這個正確性維持正確性他就不正確啊人家已經三件判決確定了你們都是敗訴啊所以你就亂罰嘛你亂罰然後為了要凹到最後反正打官司很久嘛現在是三件嘛第四件可能也要很久以後第五件可能很久以後到時候可能你也沒有在做主密了這事情就跟你無關了 |
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但是你們一點道德勇氣都沒有現在看了三件大家都覺得說這個非常荒腔走板嘛好啦請問一下那個時候你們的前主委前代理主委 |
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問博中被記者問到如果NCC委員會沒辦法召開的話iPhone16沒辦法上市那iPhone16現在上市了沒當時是沒有辦法當時確實是沒有辦法進口做形式認證現在沒辦法那現在你們NCC現在也沒有也沒辦法開成會啊現在三個啊所以以後有新的iPhone的手機也沒辦法上市你是這個意思嗎 |
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未來的話有可能有可能怎麼樣有可能是這樣子未可能啊因為手機要進來有幾個程序啦一個是要進口sample進來做形式認證形式認證完了之後呢後續才可以根據這個形式認證他們哪可以啊就可以來進去所以有可能新的手機沒有辦法上市只要NCC委員沒辦法召開你是這個意思嗎對確定喔是你講的喔你講的喔 |
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所以NCC組密在這邊再次宣示了如果NCC委員沒有辦法組成委員會的話iPhone 17沒辦法上市你講的齁是你講的齁除了iPhone 17沒辦法上市之外還有什麼東西會受到影響 |
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你剛剛講的啊我重複你的話啊你剛剛說如果NCE委員沒辦法組成的話iPhone 17沒有上市你剛剛講的啊我現在問你嘛如果現在NCE委員沒辦法組成iPhone 17可不可以上市可不可以 |
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二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算 |
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保留給委員會的事項了啦但是未來如果假設委員會如果假設真的真的沒有辦法再開的話那這部分的話我們後續的程序是不是我們委員會會在委員諮詢、質疑會議會再繼續討論這個我不清楚所以你們就是有辦法嘛你們那時候溫柏中就是在騙人嘛不是當時啊就是有辦法不然你講啊如果NCC現在沒辦法開會的話新的手機沒辦法上市你宣誓啊你講啊你還再繼續恐嚇大家啊 |
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你就是有辦法嘛那你既然有辦法去處理就行政程序去做調整為什麼當時要這樣子嚇大家所有公務員都要依法行政啦依法行政也可以彈性呢公務人員要做事啦可以找到100個理由啦不想做事可以找到150個藉口啦就看你怎麼做啦剛剛你也講了嘛沒有什麼iPhone16上不上市問題只要你程序做調整就好了嘛 |
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那個是因為...不要在這邊欺騙大眾啦!謝謝!因為法律已經有修正啦!所以可以修正嘛!現在法律沒辦法修正啊!不是啊!你剛剛是不是調整內規?你是不是調整內規?那個是因為它已經法律有修正了但是它是仍然是委員會保留事項...好!沒關係!那你就重複嘛!就是說如果NCE委員沒辦法順利組成的話新的手機沒辦法上市嘛!就是你的意思嘛! |
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這根白的一跟二的問題我不知道為什麼你要一直在那邊倒錢圈 |
| IVOD_ID |
157657 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157657 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-12 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
12 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第12次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-28T13:25:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-28T13:32:16+08:00 |
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