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委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
委員發言時間 |
13:25:27 - 13:29:57 |
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會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議(事由:審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案。(詢答及處理)
【預算提案截止時間:11月26日(二)中午12時】) |
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好請台電董事長鄭文森董事長喂好董事長好那個董事長你提到說如果立法院沒有給你這兩千萬的撥補兩千億的撥補的話可能會讓台電破產嘛對不對你是不是早上有這樣講 |
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我沒有這樣講 我說財務的狀況會持續惡化因為委員問我會不會破產 我一直沒有這樣講所以你不是這樣子講因為其實現在台電在資產裡面還有一項我覺得大家有一點鴕鳥心態就是核四因為現在核四兩千多億還是列在台電資產裡面但你現在核四就是沒有要重啟沒有要使用了所以這個資產有跟沒有好像差異不大不然你核四現在要怎麼處理 |
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這2000多億的資產你要怎麼處理? |
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應該要這樣子講,就是說他後段就是他剩下的如果沒有辦法發揮其他作用的部分,他就會進到是不是在會計上面要認定。認列的方式也有很多種財務上的做法。比方說德國當年在要求他的核電廠停下來的時候,他有設計一些做法。那這些相關的做法我們可能都還要再跟那個相關的單位做討論了。 |
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我會想說為什麼你們好意思列因為你們現在就是沒有要用核四了嘛 |
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他一直就是擺在那個地方對他擺在那裡但是沒有要用嘛那你原本新建你會預估到他未來的回收嘛就是他發電然後他怎麼營運然後如何如何你現在沒有要用所以你即便把他列為2800多億在那邊可是他實際上是沒有辦法幫台電獲利嘛所以我覺得你要面對現實啦不要好像都一直駝鳥心態那另外我想跟你請教一下 |
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因為這個國智慧部長講阿他說這兩千億阿撥補到即便是撥補到台電不能確保台電一定不會漲電價那我記得好像您也有講過一樣的話就是說兩千億撥補進去不見得一定不會漲未來不見得不會漲電價等一下委員你剛才講國部長講的話對 |
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我不知道他是什麼時候講的今天早上他並不是這樣講我跟你講他怎麼講他講說兩千億波普進去他說他不能夠保證說兩千億波普進去之後一定不會漲電價他的說法是如果有漲電價的話他下台他是這樣子所以如果有漲電價的話他就下台但是他不能保證說一定不會漲電價 |
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但是我要講的是說其實我們並不關心他下不下台啊我們關心的是台電每次一直叫大家撥補撥補撥補然後不去考慮營運的改善或者是降低發電成本結果最後郭部長走了其實台灣人沒什麼人在乎他走不走啊 |
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臺灣在乎的是電價會不會無止境地上漲所以你應該要保證你這一次跟立法院要這2000億那未來是多久不會漲電價你可以控制一定的營運能力可以讓臺電的公司的體質恢復到比較良好這個是我們國人想要知道的這才比較重要我不知道您您的立場或者是您能做出怎樣的保證我要跟委員說明一個事情第一個就是電價就不是臺電決定我想這個您很清楚但是臺電營運好一點的話 |
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我剛才有在答詢的時候不斷地強調一點就是說電價審議委員會都會把這個補貼如果進來以後整個台電的財務狀況來做總體的考慮那如果改善的幅度就讓他作為考慮好 謝謝謝謝燕姿委員接著劉勛廷委員諮詢 |
IVOD_ID |
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IVOD_URL |
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日期 |
2024-11-27 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,19-1 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
1 |
會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-11-27T13:25:27+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-11-27T13:29:57+08:00 |
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