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| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:40:50 - 12:48:23 |
| 影片長度 |
453 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案。（詢答及處理）
【預算提案截止時間：11月26日（二）中午12時】） |
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來請這個臺電的曾董事長好曾董事長經濟部聯次長好聯次長先請教曾董事長目前基準的電價是不是還低於鎖電成本是大概低多少 |
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主要我們今天討論是因為要補貼民生我們現在算出來大概是每度電差一塊錢每度電差一塊錢那是今年喔 今年已經有比較和緩了所以你一千億主要是撥補過去我們對民生用電動漲所造成的損失嘛 對不對如果這一千億沒有 |
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這個沒有讓預算通過那你民生用電繼續動漲那你的虧損會持續增加對不對因為你還是動漲一塊錢嘛民生用電還是不會漲嘛 |
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那個跟委員報告喔就是民生我應該要這樣子講就是民生用電其實他之前一直在動漲所以累積了台幣的虧損這一千億其實在補之前的所以會長期低於你的售電成本的關係所以你虧損會持續擴大嘛所以才要撥補嘛才通過這個一千億的預算另外你還有10個相關的政策任務比方說你那樣淨零轉型這個很重要對不對是 |
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既然你不是口說無憑你必須要有很多實際上的這個電網牆內的這些相關的電網我有兩個我們另外一個就是折舊的支出因為我們現在要加強的做電力的建設電網的建設我們現在折舊攤體一年大概1000億那接下來累計會開始往上漲就是它一年累計的費用會持續增加到2040年如果這1000億沒有通過的話你淨零轉型可能會沒有辦法達成對不對或者效果會變得很差 |
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我們需要更多的籌資的工作要去做第一個,你有政策的目的第二個,你要未來強氮電網各項電力建設是很重要所以如果沒有我怎麼想都想不清楚為什麼藍白會要擋這個預算要刪這個預算刪這個預算只會讓台電破產會不會破產 |
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會不會負債?跟委員報告就是說這一千億我們自己在估算我們的淨值事實上佔我們總資產的百分比一直在下降。一直在下降。但是我這樣子講就是說這只如果有比較大的價格波動事實上對我說燃料價格波動或是國際的市場波動對台電現在來講都會是一個衝擊。 |
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短時間俄羅斯戰爭好像還沒有停火的跡象,所以國際不穩定的因素還是存在嗎?是,但跟委員報告,我舉個例子來講,其實蛋價上去了,接下來大家一直都在討論這件事情,通貨膨脹發生,其實它要回來,沒有那麼容易。能源價格的狀況也是這樣,它不會說戰爭結束了價格就回到戰前,其實不會。對,我了解,這個基本常識我們都知道,我也不曉得這個問題怎麼會有這個問題。 |
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如果用核電,會減少、會降低整體台電的售電成本嗎?我們算過大概一個電,就是核三廠如果真的要延,我們在沒有考慮延逸要清真投資的狀況下, |
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韓國的核能比幾乎到三成,我們目前只有6.3 |
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邱志偉議員．邱志偉議員 |
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主席 |
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做這個研議的相關準備但我也要跟委員報告2022年的時候2022年的時候事實上我們還有核二的一部機跟核三兩部機在運轉那一年的虧損其實也就非常大不是沒有核電就一定不會有虧損從韓國電力的經驗來看你的高核能比也沒有辦法阻擋你的虧損也沒有辦法這個讓電價不調漲對不對 |
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這個邏輯很清楚 核能不是一個解方欸 |
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從財政上來看以韓國現在的整個占比來看他也沒有辦法解決整個能源價格上漲的問題電價他的電價調的比台灣還高我跟委員報告2023年如果台電的電價是比照韓電的電價的話這裡不會負1977億我們會賺200多億韓電的電價高還是具有虧損對不對所以 |
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這個臺電的狀況我覺得你要用比較宏觀的去思考那你要獲得社會的支持就是說你漲這一千億是為了什麼要訴諸民意啊你跟過去我們擔負太多政策的這個負擔民生用電動力漲等等是為了讓這個臺灣的電力公司能夠永續服務 |
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財務穩健是最基本的條件所以有很多人提出很多莫名其妙的這個例論我覺得很奇怪另外我們的安全的挑戰也很重要就我們都處於地震帶對不對這地震帶啊這個你想這個只要有地震帶 |
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市長﹖ |
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主席在這裡宣布我們休息半個小時 |
| IVOD_ID |
157541 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157541 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,19-1 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T12:40:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T12:48:23+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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