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| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:03 - 11:15:38 |
| 影片長度 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查中華民國113年度中央政府總預算追加預算案。（詢答及處理）
【預算提案截止時間：11月26日（二）中午12時】） |
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董事長還有財政部長好,台電董事長還有我們的財政部莊部長 |
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委員好部長好、董事長好今天在談這個臺電這個追加預算一千億那其實基本上這個上次我們有詢問過這個院長包含這個部長、主席長都在其實問過了現在是交由這個財政跟經濟一起來做審查 |
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不過我認為我剛才聽了很多的這個在野黨委員的意見大概他們對於這一千億有很大的意見有很大的意見那我是認為這個董事長你今天應該要找這個陳潔憲過來你要拜託他過來 |
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現在他是臺灣英雄欸我們臺灣隊的隊長欸那過去他也在這個臺電的這個棒球隊也打過球打過4年那所以你今天這個為了讓預算能夠順利的追加預算能夠順利通過真的你應該要找這個拜託一下我們陳潔憲這個臺灣隊長來這邊跟所有的這個委員尤其是在野黨的委員請問一下 |
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讓他是不是能夠讓這個一千億的這個最佳預算能夠通過啦因為喔這個過去他對台電你們也是很照顧他嘛對不對那我剛也聽到了說這個未來台電在關於這個棒球隊的這個球員照顧上面也會給予這一個如果打職棒之後會來這個回到如果要回到台電還是有這個工作機會嘛是不是 |
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我們現在正在朝這方向規劃,我們會把我們的規章改變,然後報部裡面同意。我想這應該是一個,坦白講就是還好這位台灣隊長沒有繼續留在台電,有去打職棒才有這個冠軍。他當初也是在猶豫啦,因為他認為說職棒這個變化也很大,可是那時候他也,他參加職棒之後他也回不去台電了啦。 |
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莊副部長 |
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我們這個公股銀行是不是也有很多的銀行我知道就是有核庫、土銀、義銀他們也有這個對於這個不管是羽球、桌球或是其他的運動也都有支持對不對 |
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是,也會對一些球隊們或運動員們給予一些贊助跟培育。對啊,我記得我們很多奧運的選手,這個不管是這個林昀儒或是這個戴志穎,他們過去也是代表這個忘了是土銀還是核庫。 |
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臺智銀是核庫﹚李楊﹚林楊是土銀的球員這部分你給我一份資料好了就是我們有關公股銀行現在有哪些球隊這兩年編了哪些預算來照顧我們的球員 |
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求員退役後,是否還能夠回到銀行?這份資料,這兩年的資料,給我一個報告好不好?好,沒問題,謝謝,謝謝委員。那部長先請回好了。真的,我還是建議朝野協商的時候,真的要拜託陳潔憲過來一下,不然這一條預算我真的是很難過關。 |
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請教一下董事長現在台電負債是多少?負債是2.5兆左右按照立法院預算中心是2.6兆到明年是2.6兆那我問一下每年要支付的利息有多少?300億 |
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每年支付利息多少?每一度的發電成本裡面,你的利息支出大概是佔多少? |
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零點是蠻低的啦因為你處理2500億度嘛我看了一份資料我不知道對不對啦他說你們這個每一度的發電成本裡面大概50%就是你們自己發電的電力的成本那大概有15%是去購買外部電力的成本但是利息也佔了13% |
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律師沒有13%沒關係那你就是給我一份資料每一度的這個發電的成本每一度的發電成本應該是這樣子因為300億我有2500億度應該是大概1.2%左右多少應該因為我2500億度那大概一度電佔0.012元 |
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所以佔的比例是多少?每度成本是佔多少?3.5%我這邊的資料到113年9月的時候每度成本是3.63利息支出是0.12佔的比例大概是3.4%左右 |
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一年一二四每度電的成本對每度都是講每度電的成本那我就問你了每度的成本齁這個是3.63那我們現在這個每度的這個民生電價成本是多少3.73.7多3.7多那這個那現在下一度是多少勒現在是我們均價是2.7多2.7多 |
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明年還要再編一千億? |
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其實最主要是我們過去今年在內其實2022跟2023臺電在民生這個部分吸收的成本就是各一千億就是我們有吸收嘛因為你每一度發電的成本跟每一度這個民生電價的成本就是差一塊錢嘛是 |
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對阿,那為了就要穩定物價,然後讓這個民生覺得說這個我們的電價不會太貴,那所以呢我們是漲供應用電漲比較多,民生我們就是先緩著,我們就吸收每一度電就吸收一塊錢,那這也是為什麼其實前兩年更高今年一塊錢,前兩年平均成本還更高一點 |
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為什麼今天要有這筆追加預算明年還要再編一千億的公務預算在這裡面那我再請教一下昨天院長他跟工商協定會有一個早餐會他提到說新核能是持開放態度董事長知道這句話的含義是什麼嗎? |
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我聚焦在合適好了啦合適這個我也問過這個院長 |
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就是2025年非核家園這個是定在這個法律裡面的那這個核四現在公投也沒有通過重啟使用的公投也沒有通過那所以說現在核四這個核去核從因為也有很多在地的居民希望就是說他本來是核電廠的用地那是不是能夠變更他的這個地目使用還地於民那但是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
522.583 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
535.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
我發現說台電的態度好像還不是很確定未來合適這塊地要怎麼去做使用那個跟委員報告就是說你現在看到這已經都是繼承已經有利用的這些電力設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
536.886 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
537.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
﹚李坤城﹚ |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
566.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
590.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
河島區的要利用事實上是相對來講不是那麼容易,但是後段的發電設備做其他的利用是有機會的。但是不是拿來發電,他不是拿來發電,他要拿來做電壓穩定等等的一些相關工作。好,那所以未來沒有核四了,也不會用核能發電了,就是在這個貢寮這個核四廠上面不會用核能發電了,對不對? |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
594.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
603.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
現在的狀況就是我們現在法令上面也沒有這個空間所以我是說你們要提出一個計畫就是說這個核電廠的設備在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
610.313 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
628.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
你要去做什麼樣的 有哪一些你可以去做使用 你說什麼穩定電壓或是做什麼樣的使用 那有一些已經沒有使用的 那你要去做拆除或是做其他怎麼樣 因為這個都還是列在你們的這個資產裡面 每年裡面有多邊境費 在做這個資產的維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
630.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
656.027 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
所以說你們應該要提出一個計劃沒有用的看要怎麼去拆除隨時設備看是怎麼去用部長是說什麼設備的使用效益要極大化這個是一個比較大的範圍跟一個說法其實你們應該要有比較更具體的計劃未來這個不做核能發電使用這塊地要怎麼去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
657.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
658.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
我們一直都在做這種新的轉型計畫的規劃,我們會持續來辦。 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
686.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
690.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
謝謝坤城委員主席在這裡宣告我們休息10分鐘 |
| IVOD_ID |
157510 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157510 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,19-1 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-27T11:04:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-27T11:15:38+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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