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| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:36:23 - 10:50:13 |
| 影片長度 |
830 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於司法院及所屬主管收支部分。
二、審查司法院函送財團法人法律扶助基金會114年度預算書案。
三、繼續審查司法院函請審議「稅務行政事件審理法草案」案。
四、繼續審查司法院函請審議「行政法院組織法部分條文修正草案」案。
【第一、二案僅進行詢答；預算提案於12月2日中午12時截止收件；第三、四案僅宣讀條文】
【11月25日及27日兩天一次會】） |
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審查司法院第11屆第2會期司法院第11屆第2會期司法院第11屆第2會期 |
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黃副秘書長也請我們臺北地院的王院長要接班。趕快來見習一下。也請我們訪福的陳董事長。陳董事長 |
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國民法官國審案國審案將擴大納入貪污等案,要強化國民的參與率及拒絕標準。國民法官上路2年,15年案由將擴大。 |
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本來在去年我們新收108件,未結83件,好像比前兩年總數加起來要多根據官方法第五條第一項,它是兩個要件一個是故意犯罪因而發生死亡的結果者,對不對,這已經實施了嘛,過去這幾年就是這樣那未來在15年,所犯罪侵本行為10年以上有期徒刑之罪,請問這些包含哪些?這些罪包含哪些? |
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判違強制性交、傷害、妨礙幼童、強盜擄人勒贖、兒少性剝削、人口販運、懲治走私、國家情報、妨礙國家安全以及貪污治罪條例。」對不對? |
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一百一十二年的強盜結合家辱人勒俗的結合罪11人,但是重大貪污有15人,是不是這樣子?但是有沒有評估未來總收案量會成長多少?法院人力充不充足?有沒有評估過?我們在一一五年要開始擴大。 |
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審理法律審理法律審理法律審理法律審理法律 |
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重大貪污案件適用國民法官法嗎?例如說違背職務 |
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稅務行政事件審理法草案案 案件情節繁雜或需高度專業知識非經長久時日顯然完成審判者。」請問副秘書長為什麼要加上這一款?為什麼國民法官法要避免這種情節繁雜要長久時日? |
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委員報告齁,因為那個國民,一般的國民參與的這些案件齁,第一個,他只能在很……比如說在兩週內要讓國民法官完成。對對對,那他沒有辦法像一般的法官這樣,可以一年兩年,一年兩年再審判子。 |
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所以根據這樣子,去年根據複雜條款裁定不行使國民參審審判的有28件申請,其中複雜案件13件,那麼准以15件,複雜案件6件,差不多複雜案件有一半是准以不交由國民法官參與嘛,對不對?好,那請問一下複雜性條款,有沒有不複雜的貪污案?剛剛講到我們這個重大貪污案適用國民法官法,但是有沒有不複雜的貪污案? |
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最近大家最熱門的 |
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金華城案,你看看,單單看這個人物關係跟金流圖啊,你看有多少的前市長、前市議員、企業家被告。事案行為至少從4年前開始,還有疑似匯款流入基金會、黨部及政治先進專戶,這個案子複複複雜。 |
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和委員報告,當然有相當的這些複雜度,但是跟委員報告,也不是說有複雜法官那個申請說不行國民審判,法官就會准,法官就只要是…沒錯,好,那麼看一下這個是還在進行中的,我們看已經針截了,重大貪官適用國民法官法會有什麼問題?貪官的特質,涉案人數眾多,金流複雜,被告不認罪,你看,禪送12年,南投前縣長啊, |
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李朝卿收回扣111件罪全部定案累計刑期達超過400年。」李朝卿案恐怕我們想國民法官沒辦法銷售啊。 |
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財刑國民法案制度就是要集中審理,有些時候會拖久,就是因為集中審理沒有辦法落實貫徹,那這也是國民法案的製度。我們來看一下還有什麼其他的考量,來下一頁。遇到有社會矚目的案件,如何維持國民法案的公正性?國民法案第14條。 |
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包括總統、副總統、各級機關首長、政務人員、民意代表、政黨黨務工作人員。國民法第15條選任國民法官法,這些人不能參與,有具體事證足認其執行職務,有難其公正之語。小草集結北檢挺科這些人會不會落入到第15條第9款的項目當中呢? |
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如果我們這重大的社會矚目案件有這些人那你就說重大貪污看複雜程度不見得那你在選任國民法官的時候這些人你怎麼去篩選出來 |
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委員報告喔,這個是不是符合這個去選任不適合擔任國民法官,其實要有具體的事證,而且在選任程序裡面,雙方都會去表示意見,那今天被告這邊表示意見,檢察官那一邊他可能會表示不適合這個意見,所以不見得...所以說我們現在談到了當15年擴大包括貪污案件要納入的時候,除了案件複雜之外,社會矚目的你在選任國民法官的時候,不只因為案件複雜,連選任的人員都要特別謹慎,對不對? |
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民嘴、網路、KOL、支持者,這些可以當任國民法官嗎?如果有足夠的事政,你們就可能要把他排除喔,是不是這樣? |
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在選任的程序裡面兩兆就會去表示意見那這一邊可能就認為說沒有達到那你要知道齁那這個時候兩邊裸裸有沒有要挑他就開始要求調錄影帶去北檢前面調北檢那時候的錄影帶看看哪些人曾經在裡面參與的是不是這樣子就看到我們在好萊塢電影上他們選任陪審團的時候啊就開始派出大量的人力去救可能被選出來當國民法官的他的過去的參與 |
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是否有這種事證?這是一個龐大的工程,這個事情誰來把關?誰來把關?如果是在北院的話,是誰來把關?如果這個案子國審法,中華北院是誰來把關國民法官的選任?請王院長提供一下見解,因為未來你要擔任這個職務。 |
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這個依法是由國民法官庭的審判長。國民法官庭的審判長嘛,所以很重要嘛。各位我們各個地院的院長喔,這個複雜度大約是好,往下一頁,來我們看一下。那其實我們更關心的不是這個,不是主卻,是要怎麼提升人民參與審判來強化司法信任度。我們1、2年應到的候選法官2352位,10到呢,不到一半。那1、1、3年的比率呢,到目前有沒有統計? |
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審查司法院函送財團法人法律扶助基金會114年度中央政府總預算案關於司法院函送財團法律扶助基金會114年度審查司法院函送財團法律扶助基金會114年度審查司法院函送財團法律扶助基金會114年度審查司法院函送財團法律 |
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議員最高的是專業人士、軍公教跟學生,議員最低是家管、退休、無業跟勞力人員。為什麼會這樣子呢?有這樣的觀點嗎?我們再往下看。 |
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其實營養參與委員的呢,他這裡的說法是說,因為可能學歷低者他比較擔心對日常生活及生計造成影響。像這些勞力人員啊、兼職人員啊,最怕這一點。那請問候選的法官僱主知道應該以公價併合領日費嗎?你們有去調查嗎? |
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你覺得是原因嗎?但影響生活經濟。我們這部分應該都有做相關的通知跟宣導,應該會知道。那未來的副部長要強化,要請司法院這邊強化各院的宣導。但是是不是真的是考慮說因為經濟生活,我們再往下看。很奇怪耶,從年齡來看,年齡越高,到場率越低啊。尤其是六、七十歲以上的到場率低於平均。這些人不都已經退休了嗎? |
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為什麼還會擔心他的經濟生活呢?是什麼原因造成年紀較長者他擔心去擔任國民法官呢?你們要去深入探究原因,可以嗎?這一點我特別提出來,再往下看所以候選的國民法官魏道廷將開法你看我這裡給你看教召我們當兵教召魏豹島將有刑事責任但是你們的國民法官法以橋頭地院來講沒有代名魏道廷可依法具體哇這好嚴重啊 |
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市務上是不是有沒有提醒?有沒有提醒?沒有啊,這個傳票上面沒有載明啊,是不好載明還是怎麼樣?要你去當國民法官,不來,把你拘來,有這樣的事情嗎?民眾會不會覺得法情感上難以接受?要我去當法官不去,你還要把我抓出去? |
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提醒都有提醒啦但是目前沒有好啦我也沒有說你們一定要載名啦也不是說載名就比較好啦但是這個是一個很重要的觀念啦或許你們覺得載名之後會讓民眾深深恐懼或有錯誤的誤解其實當國民法院是個義務但是你用到具體可能民眾會嚇一跳是不是這樣子我了解你們要去體會但是這個要加強怎麼辦讓徐先生好不好好先往下下一題 |
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審判的意願,並且嚴格國民法官案件的轉軌及拒絕標準。」最後陳董事長請回王蜂蜜跟王院長還有我們屏東地院的李院長不用上來交接一下 |
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護士長,你去過屏東地院看過,我們屏東地院有一個司法園區的專案,是不是要推動嗎?我們希望未來的王院長接著之後要持續推動,因為這個案子很重要,要跟法務部、要跟國產署、要跟國土署都要去做共同協商。是不是請兩位共同承諾繼續推動,包括幫我們的屏東地院,李院長很積極,我們的地檢的陳檢察長也很積極,需要上面司法院跟法務部共同推動,可以承諾嗎? |
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行政院一律新建的辦公廳設,沒有植物宿舍,都沒有了,只有哪裡? |
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只有新蓋的屏東榮總有植物宿舍你知道什麼原因嗎因為蘇院長特別破例給這些辛苦的醫護人員要輪班所以讓他們在新建的廳舍裡面有植物宿舍未來如果說司法園區能夠成立它的地占地面積等等各方面條件很好未必要在同一個廳舍裡面在附近 |
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審理法草案案件事件審理法草案案件事件 |
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法官生人愉快。」那也拜託王院長好不好接下燙手山魚世代交替啊台灣隊加油我們司法加油謝謝 |
| IVOD_ID |
157427 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157427 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-36-16 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期司法及法制委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-25T10:36:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-25T10:50:13+08:00 |
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