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委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
委員發言時間 |
10:22:21 - 10:28:17 |
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356 |
會議時間 |
2024-11-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議(事由:邀請國防部報告「獵鴞專案執行規劃」,並備質詢。) |
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部長請部長我覺得剛才黃仁委員他質疑的確實很有道理如果今天我們購買武器那麼美方他的發價書是55億但是我們卻要編115億是不是代表我們的這些國防的採購 |
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是要五毛給一塊呢所以這些相關的就是我們的預算的編列不是讓立法院給空白授權書啊那不然的話剛才講的就是說要看那個大院同不同意 |
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那你總是要有個理由而不是要有空白授權書我覺得這點非常重要我們都知道我們建制國防加強防衛的重要性但是要五毛給一塊的事情我們不要做這個冤大頭好不好另外請教部長對不起時間暫停一下我再請我們的海軍海軍司令部參謀長 |
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所以公委員報告這剛剛講的就是說當然因為是預算編制期整的關係他所以我們編那現在事實上只要55億所以對那你編了150億那60億怎麼辦要不要再動60億這個就是大院可以決定如果大院不同那你們也要可以提出來啊是不是預算就應該保留才對預算是不是該保留人家要55億我們編115億這60億欸60億是很大的錢欸 |
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對,大院如果不同意的話,那大院就會把它刪減,那就結繳國庫,那大院如果同意我們增購的話,那我們就再增購。你們是不是也應該辦保留預算啊?好,另外請教一下,我們在...報告委員,現在委員釐清,這個預算還沒有編,所以沒有保留的問題。你們不是編在114年度嗎? |
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包委員我們預算是每年會編一次那目前我們編列的是114年的預算所以你們建議直接砍掉就是了所以現在您看到了60億你要買什麼啊你到底要買什麼人家說55億賣給你你要編115億欸天底下有這麼冤大頭的事情嗎大院如果同意的話我們會把預算額度以外的錢購買反裝甲型然後你們再來增加對不對 |
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這預算可以這樣子編法嗎?我時間有限,我要問一下就是有關於我們潛艦國造原型艦的問題那麼在預算書上,本來我們有關於第二艦代原型艦的籌建預算,114年度是編列25億 |
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但是明年度的預算把這25億又把它拆成12345114到118年度請問一下為什麼114年度的預算又要把它分拆到118年度請問我們的原型艦出現什麼樣的問題我們的預算為什麼要做這樣的更動 |
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主要就是因為那個魚雷Mark48的那個重型的魚雷的交互的這個期程而延後的關係而不是我們建造的關係 |
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所以是魚雷這一部分25億都是魚雷的部分嗎是的都是嗎5億是屬於船廠那其他的21屬於魚雷的那因為魚雷要分批的這個所以這樣可以這樣解讀嗎原來是應該114年度執行完畢的那現在因為魚雷交貨的延宕所以要延到118年度是這樣嗎是的他魚雷因為他因為 |
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郭喜說海昆號的星降有一樣設備製造商不賣了 |
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他直接說是德國,其實過去都沒有講是德國嘛,他這個有泄密之嫌。他說呢,我們找,買不到心臟,所以現在有人來問我說,啊是不是呢,前件的這個心臟沒有了,我們換卡車的心臟,我說不會這麼離譜嘛。所以請問一下部長,請問郭喜,他所講的到底是假消息還是他泄密了? |
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這很重要喔!最近大家都在傳說我們那個心臟買不到喔!然後要換變成是卡車的心臟喔!請再要回答我想第一個說明我想郭喜的這個部分並非屬實喔!那第二個呢我們有關所有有關潛艦的裝備使用都採護士商員的評選所以來降低風險那關鍵的裝備商都是屬於受保護而不以對外公開的 |
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你講的德國製造商是不是事實?他有沒有洩密?我只能解藥回答他講的並不是事實。他如果有洩密的話要去辦他,對不對?你們去洩密,立法委員你們都去辦立法委員,都去告立法委員,如果郭喜有洩密的話為什麼不去告郭喜呢?部長,如果有洩密要不要告郭喜? |
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因為他講的這個內容在我看起來他沒有講得非常的清楚到底是講哪些什麼哪些的項目是什麼你這樣子是有顧左右而言他 |
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王鴻薇委員 |
IVOD_ID |
157425 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157425 |
日期 |
2024-11-25 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-17 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
17 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-11-25T10:22:21+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-11-25T10:28:17+08:00 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |