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委員名稱 楊曜
委員發言時間 13:47:40 - 13:59:59
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會議時間 2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議(事由:審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管預算(公務預算及基金)。(僅詢答,113年12月6日下午5時截止收案))
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 委員質詢謝謝主席主席請一下邱部長委員好部長好部長我還是想要就
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 建保的幾個問題跟部長先做個探討原因是什麼呢?原因是在未完委員會已經處理了一個勞保的大洞一直補不滿所以我們在建保還沒有很大的問題之前必須要先有妥善的規劃
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 謝謝委員我想那個是大家各黨的決議我們小政府會全力往這個目標來努力
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 大概分兩個部分一個是公務預算邊的增加這個部分大概增加了100多億這從原來在健保裡面我們把它挪出來做公務預算部長我想要請問一下從健保裡面挪出來是什麼意思
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 這些變成由公務預算來支出這樣健保就不用去支付那些公共衛生的支出這其實我們清除不少啦就是原本就不應該是由健保來給付的那就是表示之前收的保費有問題啦不是收的保費有問題收的保費就是照顧人民健康啦你這些原本不應該由健保來給付嗎
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 那你是用給付跟收費是一個平衡的狀態嗎?部長現在講的意思是說現在的公務預算是之前原本有健保給付的嗎?
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 原來沒有公務預算這現在提出來當然是要變公務預算啊對啦對啦他可以提出來而且部長的意思是說這可以提出來就是感謝行政院願意來公務預算來處理這一塊啦這樣讓那個健保就有更多的空間嘛好
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 所以算起來就是整個對健保的意志大概有712億就是假如要達到1.0.95必須要增加700多億原先算是差不多要700億我們現在整個712億
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 公務預算100多億那其他最少還有500多億因為我們健保總合就增加了531億
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 沒有啊,我只是不知道你增加這700多億的裁員就比較明確的是一個裁員是行政院預住公務我們有兩個大部分一個是行政院有預住那行政院預住又有分兩大部分那個原來的
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 高推估會到5.5所以它前面有一筆錢就是如果我們今年真的把明年的114年的總額拉到最高的推估5.5的時候那筆也會產生一筆錢就是推估的啊推估的不是實際現在就一定有那個就是成長率
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 以上這樣補充
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 因為我實驗中的關係我跟部長建議一下我覺得你們要不要要不要考慮調整保費或者是補充保費然後呢或者是跟行政院做溝通把特定的稅收來挹注健保
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 因為我剛剛就講過了我實在不願意看到未完三個部會裡面日後就有兩個部會有兩個大棟必須要補
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 而且可能會一直公務預算的支出因為勞保現在已經很慘了那健保我真的是不大想再看到又有另外一個坑洞必須要一直補所以應該調整保費就調整保費
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 應該找特定的稅收當作專款來預注
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 主動跟國人同胞講清楚大家會接受應該找特定的財源來預注我也不相信行政院找不出來這是開源的部分節流的部分我覺得醫療分級假如說
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 落實了也可以減少你們的支出醫學中心假如不要像之前漫無止境的一直增加
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 也不會造成資源的浪費好不好我當然這樣子的這麼大的一個題目不會只有今天的質詢講可是我比較重要的題目大概都已經先給部長了我最後跟部長講一個觀念大家都在討論波波牙醫我不知道為什麼你們會想出來把波波牙醫送到
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 偏鄉我只講觀念我沒有任何的立場只是說你們推了一個計畫讓大家直接承認波波牙醫我不是說我的立場喔就是說你們把波波牙醫送到偏鄉直接就是表示你們的立場已經覺得波波牙醫矮人一傑
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 另外一個面向就是你們把離島偏鄉的居民當作次等的國民我知道你們沒有那個意思啦但是你們的論述我在選區就被罵死了
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 我說過我對哪一國的醫生我基本上沒有很大的意見可是是你們的計畫推出然後再做說明的時候導致了對於這些醫生跟對於偏鄉居民都很不公平謝謝部長謝謝主席好謝謝委員指教
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日期 2024-11-21
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-2-26-10
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 2
會議資料.會次 10
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 26
會議資料.標題 第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議
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開始時間 2024-11-21T13:47:40+08:00
結束時間 2024-11-21T13:59:59+08:00
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