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| 委員名稱 |
吳春城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:44:34 - 12:54:12 |
| 影片長度 |
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| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管預算（公務預算及基金）。（僅詢答，113年12月6日下午5時截止收案）） |
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謝謝主席,我們有請部長 |
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委員好部長好看到你就很開心像笑面佛一樣的謝謝現在這樣的環境很需要你這樣子謝謝帶給大家信心剛才那個圖委員講那個樂生療養院為什麼要改名 |
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這要證明啊,證明很重要對不對,所以這個部長就是你有很開放的那種思維,不會僵死在那個地方,所以你有同意說會改成樂生醫院嘛,這真的好聽多方考量啦,文資文史的歷史 |
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他本身現在就是醫院嘛,對不對?有醫院的功能他本來就有醫院的功能嘛,所以證明很重要所以部長你認同把老人因法族也證明為壯世代嗎?嗯 |
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當機是不是 |
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有阿強的陰謀阿強的陰謀你現在時間上幫我停一下這一個有不是這一個是嗎OK好那你呢下一頁呢不對啊你弄到舊的是不是是不是你檔案剛才為什麼會跑掉 |
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超高齡社會在41天就來臨對這樣來臨的一個社會你覺得他是一個悲慘世界 |
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還是一個美麗新世界我們可以創造美麗新世界所以你認為他可以嘲笑美麗新世界一定要這樣做為什麼一定要這樣子嘛對不對沒得選擇一定要這樣子嘛齁因為為什麼要問這個問題喔這一個的你的信心跟你的想像會決定你的政策你的解方是如果你把它當作是悲慘世界你提出來就是悲慘解方 |
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對哪一種思維?那你覺得我們現在政府普遍的大概都把他當作什麼?悲慘世界? |
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吳春城議員 |
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因為這個少子高齡化社會定型影響層面很多啦那這個衛福部在這裡面扮演非常重要的角色不管是少子化不管是高齡化都是你們衛福部的事情因為其他部位都不想管 |
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大家一起努力大家一起努力都沒有在管我剛才質詢文化部回來他們就整個就變一千萬而已而且還是做什麼那個就是各部會就是覺得60歲以後 |
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吳春城議員 |
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總之呢是不是要請衛福部我們現在整個基本上的認知就把這高齡者視為叫引法族為什麼要證明因為引法族每天包括大家討論的就是臥床的問題就是醫院的問題就是一種社會負債的問題安養晚年特殊對待 |
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那衛福部可不可以把它翻轉成為你就停留在那邊我時間快到了你不要再變來變去了 |
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那個變成壯世代想像他有30年的健康餘命這叫做美麗新世界30年健康餘命我們現在可以為他們做什麼我們應該要怎麼設計包括整個社福的一個的機構他們需要只脫離生理安全的需求而渴望自我實現他們希望能夠促進世代的循環 |
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需要精彩的第三人聲OK這個就是OK所以呢好我前面我也跟那個講一下就是上個禮拜資訊月 |
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我壯世代跟速發部合作辦了一個因為資訊院通常都是年輕人在玩電腦的地方我今年跟速發部合作辦了一個叫壯世代董資樂園董資訊的樂園而且你那個名稱要活潑一點董資董資因為他們有董資券嘛政府都有發董資券所以叫董資樂園你知道創造了什麼爆發壯世代人潮 |
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所謂的你們所謂的銀髮族大批的銀髮族大概有幾萬人進入資訊業每一個人玩得不亦樂乎所以呢你看抒發部都可以這樣做衛福部可以這樣做嗎系各部會為什麼如果你過去都叫做樂齡什麼資訊區有人要去啦 |
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為什麼你改變他一個身份當然當你在設計者當你把他當作勒領的時候你所做的一些規劃也就是會朝勒領的方向你把他當作壯士你就會朝壯士的方向去設計那參與者也是一樣 |
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改變一點身份改變一點思維這就叫美好的新世界這叫做美好新世界它會創造很多我以前衛福部我們是不是可以一起努力來推動所以最後 |
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最後一點就是我現在在推動撞促法撞促在政策的產業發展促進法我們要重要的一點 |
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就是要做一個雙軌制雙軌制的一個現在除了照護性的政策之外是不是需要一個發展性的政策因為照護性的政策大概只能現在照顧16%的這個失能需要健康長照照顧的但是我們有84%龐大的這些 |
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你完全沒有政策是不是可以發展壯世代的政策成為一個在我們未來不管在做社福的思維當中一個雙軌的一個制度這個請問部長你讚不讚成 |
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創世代您的任期是相當的大那相關的年齡層其實我們每一個年齡層其實從出生以後到安老到善終所有的生命歷程我們都有需要照顧的任務所以請放心在創世代所包圍的範圍其實相關的一個健康照顧的政策都會有 |
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謝謝吳委員繼續我們請 |
| IVOD_ID |
157353 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157353 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-10 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-21T12:44:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-21T12:54:12+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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