| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fc78d56ce4a63752583054332b20aa097f9c834d54a4e02c74ba16637283b6ccda6c27b9980abdb35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:58:19 - 12:04:38 |
| 影片長度 |
379 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管：行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)） |
| transcript.pyannote[0].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].start |
2.24159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].end |
5.02596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].start |
5.44784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].end |
7.21971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].start |
9.83534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].end |
11.65784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].start |
11.97846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].end |
13.69971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].start |
20.44971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].end |
27.97596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].start |
28.11096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].end |
29.07284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].start |
29.07284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].end |
30.59159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].start |
29.41034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].end |
31.16534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].start |
31.63784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].end |
33.37596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].start |
34.05096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].end |
37.15596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].start |
37.15596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].end |
37.17284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].start |
37.17284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].end |
38.69159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].start |
38.94471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].end |
39.99096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].start |
40.76721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].end |
41.30721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].start |
41.86409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].end |
41.88096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].start |
41.96534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].end |
41.98221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].start |
42.25221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].end |
42.79221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].start |
43.12971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].end |
47.17971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].start |
47.31471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].end |
48.79971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].start |
48.96846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].end |
52.49534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].start |
53.11971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].end |
54.89159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].start |
55.14471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].end |
56.30909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].start |
56.57909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].end |
57.55784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].start |
57.89534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].end |
59.34659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].start |
59.41409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].end |
59.43096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].start |
59.43096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].end |
62.40096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].start |
62.40096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].end |
63.75096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].start |
63.90284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].end |
66.50159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].start |
65.23596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].end |
65.26971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].start |
65.26971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].end |
65.45534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].start |
65.45534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].end |
65.47221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].start |
66.80534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].end |
73.97721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].start |
74.48346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].end |
81.25034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].start |
78.22971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].end |
78.70221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].start |
81.65534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].end |
86.38034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].start |
86.83596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].end |
87.49409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].start |
87.84846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].end |
91.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].start |
91.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].end |
91.51034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].start |
92.03346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].end |
93.67034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].start |
93.90659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].end |
96.99471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].start |
96.53909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].end |
96.84284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].start |
97.34909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].end |
100.26846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].start |
100.70721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].end |
110.27534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].start |
104.97659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].end |
105.28034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].start |
109.56659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].end |
110.24159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].start |
110.27534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].end |
110.29221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].start |
110.29221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].end |
110.35971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].start |
110.35971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].end |
110.51159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].start |
110.51159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].end |
111.01784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].start |
111.01784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].end |
112.03034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].start |
112.03034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].end |
113.76846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].start |
114.07221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].end |
123.35346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].start |
115.75971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].end |
116.09721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].start |
122.71221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].end |
124.97346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].start |
125.19284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].end |
134.00159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].start |
134.30534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].end |
143.89034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].start |
144.31221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].end |
144.48096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].start |
144.48096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].end |
151.06221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].start |
151.24784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].end |
160.02284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].start |
151.53471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].end |
151.97346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].start |
160.24221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].end |
162.01409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].start |
162.33471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].end |
166.03034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].start |
166.58721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].end |
168.54471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].start |
168.54471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].end |
168.62909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].start |
168.62909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].end |
170.35034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].start |
170.70471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].end |
177.25221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].start |
171.48096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].end |
172.59471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].start |
176.52659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].end |
182.28096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].start |
179.42909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].end |
179.68221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].start |
182.28096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].end |
187.74846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].start |
186.80346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].end |
188.52471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].start |
188.52471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].end |
188.57534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].start |
188.57534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].end |
188.59221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].start |
188.59221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].end |
189.63846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].start |
189.63846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].end |
195.88221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].start |
196.06784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].end |
198.97034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].start |
198.97034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].end |
199.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].start |
199.08846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].end |
200.23596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].start |
200.84346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].end |
201.34971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].start |
201.34971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].end |
212.99346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].start |
213.26346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].end |
213.82034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].start |
213.95534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].end |
215.17034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].start |
215.35596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].end |
222.74721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].start |
218.42721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].end |
218.96721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].start |
222.49409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].end |
224.77221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].start |
223.47284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].end |
231.74159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].start |
232.23096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].end |
233.59784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].start |
232.41659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].end |
233.15909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].start |
234.12096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].end |
236.73659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].start |
237.00659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].end |
238.69409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].start |
238.69409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].end |
240.85409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].start |
239.40284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].end |
239.74034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].start |
240.93846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].end |
241.76534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].start |
242.06909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].end |
249.76409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].start |
245.52846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].end |
245.86596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].start |
246.99659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].end |
248.81909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].start |
250.20284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].end |
256.39596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].start |
255.09659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].end |
260.31096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].start |
258.15096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].end |
259.53471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].start |
260.12534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].end |
271.41471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].start |
271.41471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].end |
278.55284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].start |
271.44846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].end |
271.98846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].start |
278.89034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].end |
281.25284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].start |
281.65784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].end |
285.18471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].start |
285.52221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].end |
292.13721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].start |
290.39909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].end |
306.63284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].start |
292.93034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].end |
295.15784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].start |
305.50221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].end |
311.86409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].start |
309.48471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].end |
323.10284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].start |
312.33659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].end |
316.25159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].start |
323.50784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].end |
327.69284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].start |
324.89159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].end |
326.34284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].start |
327.40596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].end |
331.94534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].start |
329.95409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].end |
342.66096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].start |
339.97784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].end |
343.72409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].start |
342.69471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].end |
342.71159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].start |
343.43721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[116].end |
345.20909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].start |
345.25971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[117].end |
346.00221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].start |
346.49159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[118].end |
346.52534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].start |
346.52534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[119].end |
354.42284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].start |
346.57596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[120].end |
347.04846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].start |
353.35971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[121].end |
358.40534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].start |
356.07659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[122].end |
356.54909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].start |
358.40534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[123].end |
361.08846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].start |
360.26159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[124].end |
360.27846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].start |
361.37534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[125].end |
366.21846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].start |
365.13846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[126].end |
365.89784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].start |
366.21846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[127].end |
366.23534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].start |
366.80909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[128].end |
368.37846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].start |
367.73721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[129].end |
370.18409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].start |
370.42034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[130].end |
371.71971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].start |
372.20909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[131].end |
373.81221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].start |
374.60534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[132].end |
374.75721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].start |
374.75721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[133].end |
374.80784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].start |
377.28846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[134].end |
378.23346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].start |
378.97596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[135].end |
379.09409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].start |
379.24596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[136].end |
379.33034375 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
2.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
6.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
我們中午不休息會延長到諮詢結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
20.918 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
33.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
主委好委員好我們古巴基金是台積電的大股東嘛現在是有16億.53的股票對不對是的16.53億股票今年的台積電總共貢獻多少股力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
34.113 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
51.868 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
今年預計會超過一百億啊超過一百億有兩百多億嗎沒有沒有一百一百幾億兩百兩百喔大概兩百億左右兩百億左右是不是所以實際上台積電對國家基金貢獻很大對陳儒今天剛剛很多委員在問國家基金很多都虧錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
53.149 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
69.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
那因為台積電的關係讓古巴基金能夠有剩餘啦有很大的貢獻但是我們其他的投資還有將近100億的收入對啦但是台積電是應該是貢獻最大的啦所以我覺得這個主委應該要關心台積電的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
70.655 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
91.376 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
那我昨天也跟經濟部長也詢問因為台積電他是有獲得美國的66億的補助美元的補助可是有要求說A16的先進製程必須要移到美國去那經濟部所有的官員都樂觀其成就這樣棒主委你身為台積電大股東你的看法如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
92.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
106.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
就我的了解他現在是3奈米跟4奈米那2奈米就我的了解還不會過去因為他必須要經過實驗成功那3奈米是在原計畫裡面就會過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
108.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
124.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
所以只有3奈米A16的限季支撐也不會過去?排積電有跟我解釋那A16是產品的部分那產品的部分其實要看如果他A16一般來講進到3奈米是有可能過去的有可能過去那你也是這關啟程嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
125.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
142.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
倒不是樂觀其成不樂觀其成這是一個政治因素政治因素那這個屬於在美國生產的很多美國客戶的訂單會進去這個是要看他的因為他成本比較高這個的確他美國的成本比較高那那個成本如果能夠被買方接受那買方下單台積電就會出貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
144.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
165.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
那只要是在3奈米或是在4奈米的台積電也會出貨,因為他可以製造,他不可能不接受。所以我跟你請教一下,因為本來經濟部長是講說12月的時候,台積電在美國的廠開幕會有一個完工典禮。那時候經濟部長是這樣子講的,可是後來隔不久張忠謀就說沒有人要完工典禮。 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
166.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
181.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
那因為你是大股東嘛對你之前有受邀嗎沒有沒有完全都沒有受邀我們是只有2月份2月10號左右會在那邊開董事會董事會可是之前有傳出完工典禮的時候有沒有說先邀請您去後來又跟你說不辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
182.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
199.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
之前沒有如果有會邀請我像歐洲那次德國那次就有邀請就有邀請但這次沒有邀請這次應該還沒有辦可是我們就覺得很奇怪啊為什麼部長一開始說有後來張忠謀又說沒有其中的轉折是什麼應該以台積電的聲音為主吧對為什麼那部長為什麼會說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
201.382 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
228.469 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
所以你從頭到尾都沒有接到要完工典禮的消息就對了沒有那經濟部告訴我們講說其實不擔心台積電有一些製程會移到美國去他們的說法是說因為台積電未來每一年都會在台灣設廠每一年都會設廠所以我們的製程是永遠會領先美國所以不用擔心是這樣告訴我們目前是這樣台積電每一年都要設廠的話那目前最近三年的規劃是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
229.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
248.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
例如今年、明年、後年會在哪個縣市?其實我知道在高雄跟台南高雄、台南然後再來因為每一年都要設廠接下來台中也會有台中也會有所以未來三年已經都規劃好了就這三個地方主委我現在想要請教一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
250.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
266.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
如果台積電要在每一年都要一個設廠的話那用電一定要確保嗎?因為它用電量很高用電用水我們都有都有已經保障了都有定期在溝通那因為之前我看您在提到核電的時候啊你有講到就是說不反對核電但是後來你又改口了 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
267.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
271.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
288.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
292.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
那再來是安全無虞我們現在就是要確保用電無虞因為我是看到你講說不一定要用核電因為產業在乎的是有沒有電而不是什麼電然後你也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
307.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
322.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
合安法一定要實施嗎?合安法必須依法有共識其實都可以修法有態度都可以修法那是另外一個問題你有提到說沒有核電沒關係因為我們輕能現在已經要發展可是我這 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
323.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
325.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算部分關於行政院地區永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
346.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
373.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
所以你能夠保證就是說不用核電的狀況下用電都沒問題這就你的了解這個部分我跟台電問過了那是台電的保證因為我沒辦法幫台電保證我只能轉達台電跟我的保證因為你是台積電大股東你也要站在台積電跟國家發展的角度用電的部分要說真話啦謝謝我今天對你特別好有比較好可能是昨天有覺得虧欠我我一點都不虧欠你我是等下一位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
377.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
377.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
你要行個禮啊 |
| IVOD_ID |
157331 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157331 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-16 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-21T11:58:19+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-21T12:04:38+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |