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委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
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09:41:16 - 09:51:05 |
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589 |
會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管:行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)) |
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請開會請到這位請國會留主委 |
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張委員早注意COP29張開會氣象方會公佈氣象變遷的績效指標你有看到嗎?64個國家跟地區臺灣排名第60比去年有進步1名啦!也不要去調查不會更嚴重的淨零碳排這一塊都在後段班我很沒品數的嗎? |
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臺灣這麼進步啊淨寧坦白話要過啊越寒越臭越退步國際上已經聯繫好幾年都打我們的嘴巴了來我更今天要更直接跟你跟你討論我去看你的預算書啊淨寧公正轉型的預算你每個編了要用人民納稅錢1億198萬結果現在怎麼樣連那個目標都訂不出來了嗎 |
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一百一十二年跟一百一十三年都有啊,為什麼在一百一十四年?為什麼?我現在看不到你的目標值。你現在是怎樣?連目標都訂不出來了。一路走路倒退路以後。我們明年是編一千六百萬。我們明年是編一千六百萬。淨零減碳公正轉型的預算啊。對,我們是一千六百萬。您看這個表的下面也是寫一千……一千…… |
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一千六百二十萬你如果寫的是一千多少一千六百二十萬全部加起來不是一億九百一百九十八萬公正你如果這樣說我砍成一千多萬喔你講的是那個是永續會的部分啦永續會不用從一億多砍成一千多啦我比較嚴重了沒有沒有主委更嚴重了更嚴重了你看你要用人民納稅錢一億 |
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結果你連一個目標值都沒有累你現在知道淨零碳牌做不好誰?連目標都不敢定了你看看右邊這個圖你110年跟111年跟今年你都還會想說你要出幾本書有一個具體的指標到今年114年除了什麼辦理實質的公眾資金、市場資金後面都空的你如果是個立法委員立法院第一個人民的願意給你這個錢嗎?立法院能夠把這個一億多給你嗎? |
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第1項你倒退路啊你以前都有的指標連目標都沒有設是怎麼倒退路啊第1項你沒有具體的指標說你要怎麼進步我剛才跟你講國際上還在笑我們 |
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這個錢能給你嗎?這一段能給你嗎?我們是都有目標值啦,我想這可能是有一個物質的部分。目標值什麼?你叫日本委員會要審議審,目標值沒有列出來啊?漏掉了是不是?沒有目標值?不可能啊。我們一定有目標值的。你那個螺絲釘掉滿地了。 |
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委員這份資料我們來查證一下啦,我們查證一下再跟你... |
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你要這1億多你去年跟前年都有很明確目標值我們每一項都有目標值你回答之前你看一下1、1、2年你的目標值實際做了什麼事情1、1、3年的目標值是什麼做了什麼事情這都很明確的啊結果你1、1、4你要拿1億多你整個都空下來你的你的頭腦也跟你搖頭了對不對第一個一個禮拜內要補期第二個更嚴重的我定 |
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主委,不是只有空白這個問題啦你連目標都沒有,你怎麼會要預算呢?你自己不知道要做什麼什麼,你怎麼會要預算?更嚴重的,過去幾年就是實行的成效又不好嘛這樣怎麼對得起民眾呢?好,一個禮拜內把那個目標值很明確定出來好不好?你一直要信嘛,你今天就是為了預算來的,結果你要空白那這個不叫螺絲釘掉滿地,什麼叫螺絲釘掉滿地? |
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主委,以前的國發會有,為什麼現在沒有?一個禮拜內把目標值很明確給本席好不好?明明有,我們有目標值啦,我想這應該是有,我不知道這份資料是我們哪裡出錯,我們更正了,因為這個目標值我都看過 |
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今天更嚴重是過去的執行績效不好來這幾天你看這幾天台灣的空氣變成怎樣你外面在減碳減少空汙台灣這幾天減碳是不成空汙是暴增的我們看下一張圖你看這幾天台北天空一片灰台中連醫生都出來講在上演那個沉默之秋 |
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左邊這個是14號的這個空氣你看紅通通一片到了15號整個更是紅通通的你減碳不好結果空污又這麼嚴重這對不起人民嗎?人民的健康會受到很大傷害注意你是定這個目標的人你要去達成這個好不好我給你看一個很恐怖的這個圖你看一下我們現在空氣壞到什麼程度 |
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我們要減煤對不對減少燒煤這是國家政策嘛國化會定的對不對主委對不對結果你看我們的14號跟15號我們台電的10部10部燃煤的機組全部火力全開你看最上面的是林口的2號機第二個是大嶺的2號機下面有臺中最可憐的臺中有6個燒煤的機組在14號跟15號火力全開 |
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前幾天已經你看那個七四圖常常都已經火力全開後來可以降下來一點點稍微喘一下人民呼吸可以稍微喘息一下下14號、15號全部都是在最高峰欸你看火力全開欸特別是台中的跟台中附近的這個居民是多麼可憐六個燒煤的機組全部火力全開我們看下一張不是只有燃煤沒有做到燒重油是不是更嚴重對不對 |
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基金、花東地區永續發展基金、花東地區永續發展基金、花東地區永續發展基金、花東地區永續發展基金、花東地區永續發展基金、花東地區永續發展 |
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南部的民眾已經犧牲那麼多年,健康都受影響了,費限還那麼高,說不要延遇好不好?你們堅持延遇,可是你們保證說盡量如果一號機開了,三號機不要開,我給你看下一張。那14號跟15號,賣了不只開了一號機,火力全開,連三號機都燒了。這樣怎麼對得起人民呢?人民用費在呼吸,用生命在呼吸。 |
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那這個還是你國家的政策、國發會的政策所以注意你很重要的責任喔好不好怎麼樣減少在燒煤怎麼樣讓空溫可以減少你要多花時間好不好而且要非常具體我們今天都不是用嘴巴講而已我今天給你看的東西都是非常具體的好不好另外要問你一個事情你明年的這個宣傳費用暴增了一倍 |
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大內宣、文宣的這個費用暴增了一倍還比較離近的我給你看一下寶定你看這個表你知道嗎你的媒體宣傳費用在有線電視情有獨鍾一家從去年的1、1、2年到今年的1、1、3年主委聽我說聽我說我去調資料出來這個大家都查得到的資料 |
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我們全台灣的有線電視從48台開始東森、財經、E電視、連帶電視台東森一直算過來到56有民視、TBS到輝煩都中11台結果你情有獨中獨大一家你這不是得罪其他10家嗎? |
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這個我承諾改善啦因為博定院院長已經講不要過度集中嘛因為這個不是過度集中的喔你是情有獨鍾一家獨大喔好不好所以其他的要擴大第二個 |
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你的錢為什麼增加那麼多?你的先傳費從一千一年一年一千六百九十五萬一家暴增到三千萬我們主要增加的部分跟委員報告主要是來自兩個部份三個部份亞洲矽谷跟地方創生從前瞻預算移轉然後加上門材的部分不要一直大內宣這是第一個點 |
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二、不要擒有獨宗一家其他不換寡而換不均其他都要照顧到第三、不能夠編這麼多預算這個預算編這麼多我一定是大砍的 |
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IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157269 |
日期 |
2024-11-21 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-19-16 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
2 |
會議資料.會次 |
16 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期經濟委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2024-11-21T09:41:16+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2024-11-21T09:51:05+08:00 |
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