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| 委員名稱 |
陳昭姿 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:16:28 - 09:28:07 |
| 影片長度 |
699 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：審查中華民國114年度中央政府總預算案關於衛生福利部主管預算（公務預算及基金）。（僅詢答，113年12月6日下午5時截止收案）） |
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有請邱部長部長請委員長部長早部長你有關注昨天的在未還委員會的質詢嗎 |
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因為我昨天在財政委員會 集管署報紙是已經沸沸揚揚 集管署傳出有土皇帝組長霸凌組員 這件事您知道嗎有這樣的新聞出來 我們也立即再處理請問部長除了集管署之外 衛福部內有沒有其他的單位有類似的情形 |
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只要有任何的一個信息,我們一定...如果你收到檢舉,你會不會處理?當然會處理你昨天說要徹查,那部長你要怎麼查?你要被動嗎?還是要先主動的去了解? |
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如果有信息我們一定先去瞭解它的來源以及我們會用最嚴格的規定來進行基本上都會像機關署這個我們會用好部長 機關署署長請回沒問題你們再進行部長某個FB的匿名粉專公開貼文提到貴部的他用市長某市長霸凌所屬的無良長官不分平假日下屬要安扣我也收到類似的檢舉 |
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部長你要不要查這件事情我等一下把這張給你就是在捲舉衛福部的我們立即來瞭解你要不要來處理這件事情當然要處理麻煩劉玉娟主秘請上台謝謝玉娟主秘 |
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請問是不是真有此事你有沒有自己早早下班讓下屬幫你看門要求下屬24小時安扣以及跟類似這個霸凌下屬的行為請您自己說明我沒有請過同人要加班或是假日要來上班沒有一次都沒有過 |
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報告委員因為我裡面有看一下他好像是說最近才調來的司長我們的司長沒有新任的 |
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我們的司長,現在有一間司長已經...部長,坦護是不會有好結果不是坦護,就是說我們想瞭解一下,可能...我想說部長,那您就回去調查,但是我想聽主秘,您說您完全沒有這個類似的...他說此人空降司長數月 |
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我收到的檢舉是這樣的我收到檢舉立委這兩天每個立委都收到一堆檢舉每個立委都收的太多檢舉了因為咪兔事件延燒了那請你說明一下沒關係只要有任何的信息我會交人事處 |
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主席不能講話嗎你就是說沒有對不對你就是一句話就是沒有提到執政黨空降愛將你覺得你自己有沒有讓部主被霸凌的感覺我沒有請同仁過來你沒有覺得你有被讓屬下有被你霸凌的感覺我瞭解 |
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我們的這些主管其實都是長久的部長這個是兩回事部長請讓公務員你會去調查請讓公務員願意講真話的方式去調查你有智慧來了解我們在調查的程序有這樣的一個匿名 |
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那我當然覺得說不只是衛福部啦我希望所有的行政機關都能夠這個主管都沒有在職場類似霸凌的行為讓員工們能夠好好的做事安心有專業的為國家付出嘛部長那就是請你記得這件事部長我們來談百億癌藥基金現在預注了50億元到健保基金叫做癌症心要暫時性支付款項專款專用部長您知道請您回答這個基金這個專款的目的是什麼 |
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目的其實就是希望這個部份我們希望能夠來我意思是說專管的目的就是加速嘛加速是該用的藥嘛那這樣的話但是我要我了解現在新藥的審查方式就是先過專家會議然後再共鳴會嘛那這當中還有很多要處理的事來來回的意見跟意見 |
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是那要不少時間那據我瞭解本週一提出的這個作業在癌症性要暫時性支付款的過程審查過程跟現在一模一樣現在是要審查一模一樣那這樣真的能加快嗎部長這樣真的能加速嗎你如果步驟跟以前都一樣真的能加速嗎 |
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怎麼加速步驟一模一樣啊經過的過程這個關卡都一模一樣啊那如果沒有辦法加速那這個專款就是虛晃一招啊委員可不可以我請那個署署長跟你說明一下 |
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跟委員報告這裡面有幾個加速的關鍵第一個就是說我們就啟動了這個平行審查機制就是他可以在那個申請我知道你瞭解但是我們現在要等著看他的結果啦好不好就是說我有一些建議因為這個是公務特別預算嘛部長是不是特別編出來的嘛特別目的嘛那他一定要經過共你會討論嗎 |
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跟委員報告當然這一關卡很麻煩的對但是呢因為這個預算的本身還是在健保基金裡面那我們當然是還是尊重啦不過我們可以加速因為他的預算比較多了那主長您進來回答那我們可不可能把它當報告案報告過去就好了因為這是特別的 |
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陳昭姿 |
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我們覺得是應該考慮要直播現在是片片斷斷剪來剪去不是真相這是第一個就是請你們快速研議夠你會直播的可能性讓大家每個人為他自己講話負責任真的有困難就讓大家知道這個都是大家都可以做還有病人練習的部分可不可能成為正式代表就是病人代表的部分那一次是這樣做的 |
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我們現在有徵詢這個請健保會推薦屬於這個非醫療服務提供者的代表來加入到這個共理會議正式代表部長你還記得這本書嗎健康達人125 |
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我們兩個是第一第二作者這本書當時出版的目的就是回歸健保只是要不給付當時侯署長是先把維他命類的跟這個胃藥民眾說胃藥我們說致酸劑先排除但是要處理一些一般感冒藥的時候遇到一些障礙 |
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當時侯書長交代說我們要先做民眾的教育自我健康的照顧所以要先有一本類似這樣的書所以我們是這樣做出來的自我用的部分那四個月前我們的附帶決議當中有這個部分只是要這個就是推出健保給付等等 |
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495.395 |
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那時候我們講好3個月,現在4個月過去了,怎麼樣進度?有研議你一定執懲,因為這個要盡量我們是站在保護民眾健康的一個,這是最高原則之下,我們去爭取大家的意見,類似執懲 |
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陳昭姿議員 |
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其實我們要全面讓大家說就是說都回到立刻回到這個社區但是如果每個人每年少一次看病你們自己說的啊可以少300億啊這個錢就拿來處理心要處理重大疾病真的大缺口部分都可以處理啊 |
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550.921 |
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所以是不是說這個有關在附帶決議的部分那再請你處理一下主席再給我一點時間因為現在很多這個我們衛福部努力在推動這個居家安寧照護計畫居家安寧照護計畫那透過疼痛的控制減緩身體不適可以讓末期的病人的生命品質 |
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市長市長市長市長市長 |
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600.355 |
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我想我一個安寧的老兵這三十年來就是在處理這件事情他是透過社區健保特約藥局來做的很感謝藥局來協助但是他們做準備跟交付藥品才能順利做但是這個現在有一些問題我簡單跟部長講部長現在這個特約藥局大概有7600家您可以猜想嗎有多少家加入了這個這麼重要的計畫呢 |
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大概有多少家?7600家當中有多少家加入的呢?大概有100家左右啦!不然這有57間而已啦!連1%都沒有啦!這麼低的原因跟很多的問題有關啦!大概就幾個問題!健保給付的點數是有改進空間的!第二個這個因為這個管制藥品管理非常嚴格嘛!違反這個銷毀程序!罰額很高喔!在15到75萬!那要是在回收的過程當中如果不小心破損了 |
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他至少也要罰15萬以上不合比例啊而且那個食藥署的管制藥品管制工廠轉嫁成本到藥局導致藥局在執行這個成本過高譬如說藥局跟這個製藥工廠訂定這個這個管制藥品的時候油費手續費匯費廢片記錄管理管制藥品廢棄物清潔費過期報銷費等等都有藥局來承擔啊你這樣叫他們你做功德就算了你還讓他額外付出 |
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所以這個部分是不是可以一個月內做一個檢討因為你要鼓勵居家安寧照護那你要讓社區藥局能夠配合你又管這麼嚴讓他嚇死了對不對疼痛的共識對居家安寧的病人是非常重要的這個社區藥局不斷的來跟我澄清這件事一定有一段時間我們管制藥品當然要嚴格怎麼樣嚴格之下 |
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謝謝陳昭姿委員 謝謝部長 |
| IVOD_ID |
157264 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157264 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-26-10 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-21T09:16:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-21T09:28:07+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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