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| 委員名稱 |
黃珊珊 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:05:22 - 17:13:52 |
| 影片長度 |
510 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、邀請相關部會首長就「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第4期特別預算執行情形及成效」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查行政院函請審議「中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案(114年度)」（僅詢答）。
【預算提案截止時間：11月27日（三）中午12時】
【11月20日及21日二天一次會】） |
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好,謝謝主席。我想請主席長、財政部國庫署署長,還有內政部次長。好,陳主席長、陳署長。另外是工程會陳竺偉。陳竺偉,工程會陳竺偉。還有消防署署長。消防署署長,蕭署長。總站前面。 |
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主席長還有各位官員,我想今天前瞻基礎建設其實是所謂的計畫性補助款,主席長對吧? |
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前瞻是不是所謂的計畫性補助款?不是特別預算的特別補助款中央補助地方政府很多的費用包括公有建築物的耐震改善重鋪道路、新建停車場、捷運建設、環境治水還有觀光建設內政部次長我想請問一下依照地方制度法你剛剛聽到的這些項目是不是地方制度法裡面地方自治的事項?有一些是大部分是 |
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公有建築物的內政改善絕對不會是中央鷹館的事項嗎?所以前瞻計畫裡面所有的幾乎都是地方政府應該做的事但是地方自治事項為什麼要中央攬不住?因為地方沒有錢 |
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有些事情是基於公共利益以及為了保障人民生命財產安全所以中央可以代行之所以我的理解也就是說地方政府本來就該做的事但是地方政府沒有錢所以中央很好心還去借錢借了8400億的前瞻預算來給地方政府補助這個前瞻預算到現在為止有沒有違反所謂的事權分配原則 |
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內政部,你是地方自治的主管機關?要跟委員報告,依據憲法的說明,本來地方唯有辦法執行事務,中央可以代替。而且,最重要的事情是,我們的目的是為了保障人民生命財產的安全,尤其是像內政補強這部分,本來我們就應該要協助。我都知道,但是可以在地方,來主席講,這中間就是很簡單嘛。 |
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我國的財政收支出了問題地方政府財源不足財政困難所以該做的事情由中央來補助就像剛剛次長所說的第一建築物補強竟然要中央補助重鋪道路要地方補助新建停車場要地方補助 |
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這就是回到我們現在財政委員會要修的財政收支劃分法財政劃分法裡面讓所有的地方政府都財源不足所以對中央政府必須要為起聯展現中央的權威來由中央來分配相關的預算今天的前瞻預算就是最好的例子所以主計長 |
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我們在這裡已經問過很多次了你到底要多少錢是不影響中央正式運作又可以下放給地方的從這個前瞻預算就看得很清楚有這麼多錢其實本來就是地方該有的但是我們中央把錢全都掌握在手裡今天的前瞻預算就是最好的例子主席長你到底算出來中央政府到底可以釋放多少垂直分配給地方政府了嗎你已經算了好幾個月了 |
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財政部負責財政部負責 |
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還有工程會的陳主委內政部的消防署署長我想請問一下地震跟海嘯的預警對你們的救災來說是不是很重要消防署 |
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地震跟海嘯是我們事先要來處理的因為火災、損失跟躲避海嘯都是消防署必須要做處理的好,現在交通部有一個交通部氣象署有一個海嵐建制計畫交通部次長請上台次長,這個計畫多久了?從110年招商到現在你知道嗎? |
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110年招標到現在留標了10次由氣象署的地震中心他們已經招標了10次都留標而且從原來的預算25億要做800公里6個觀測站一直修正到只做200公里3個觀測站經費從25億暴增到27億到今天為止還沒有標出去剛剛講 |
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地震很重要、預警很重要、交通部這個案子、這個海嵐線重不重要?市長你什麼都不知道是嗎?不是,我跟委員報告,那個剛講的,因為這個廠商相對廠商的專業性的部分比較少啦。是!那流標然後...110年到113年,3年了。第二個,來我今天特別請工程會的陳竺瑞。你知道這個計畫嗎? |
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他從25億800公里的6座觀測站修正到200公里3座的觀測站金額從25億暴增到27億項目變少金額增加這個是減相發包嗎?減相發包是合法的吧?還是不合法?減相發包也是採購法裡面的可以的方法所以我想請問一下交通部 |
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檢像發包、修正、修正、再修正十次流標到今天為止如果今年沒有再標出去的話這個案子就要第一年的預算就要被收回了我想問一下中華民國政府對於這座海底的相關的這些電纜線我們的立場是什麼?行政院還要不要這個計畫?工程會會去協助檢討它的發包方式 |
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所以工程會會協助已經3年多修正了兩次我要跟交通部說了一下因為我們跟地震中心我覺得他們也很可憐啊他們沒有多少人要做這麼大的計畫氣象署總共的預算才26億他要執行這個20他自己的預算才26億他一個單位要執行這麼多的預算然後全世界沒有幾家在做所有的廠商都是拿去做 |
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〈中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第5期特別預算案), |
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交通部是我們來檢討不是檢討到年底就要最後一次投標沒有投的話你的錢就要第一年的錢就會被註銷了接下去要怎麼辦我想因為剛剛提到的主要是做這個做這個工程的該花的錢要花不該花的錢不要亂花這個重要的事情擺在那邊擺了流標10次是很離譜的事好不好 |
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地震中心很認真但他們做不到交通部、工程會還有甚至我希望今天在座的國科會一起來幫忙甚至這些海底電纜對台灣還有國家安全的影響甚至國防部是不是也要來參加好嗎?交通部你可以做到一個月之內把這件事情的來龍去脈搞清楚第二個請工程會協助第三個幫忙地震中心爭取更多的預算不然就是把整個計畫重新做檢討可以嗎? |
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委員會主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
157249 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157249 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-2-20,15,19,22,23,26-1 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[3] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[4] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[5] |
26 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期財政、內政、經濟、教育及文化、交通、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T17:05:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T17:13:52+08:00 |
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