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| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:40:27 - 11:49:34 |
| 影片長度 |
547 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部民用航空局局長、桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長、中華航空股份有限公司董事長及桃園航勤股份有限公司董事長就「如何強化遭遇顯著危害天氣現象之飛航安全與人力配置暨如何落實地面勤務之安全規範」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部民用航空局單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－民航事業作業基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管桃園國際機場股份有限公司營業預算。
【本日僅進行詢答】【11月18日、20日二天一次會】） |
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好謝謝主席本期邀請我們交通部陳部長陳部長桃機公司楊董事長好楊董事長部長是喂喂好你知道我們桃機公司啊 |
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他有個目標他說希望明年在機場檢探認證就所謂的綠色機場能夠再提升一級我們目前是第三級LV3希望能夠提高到LV4 |
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因為我們今天本來就是有要討論如何落實地勤的業務所以我這兩個問題來跟部長交我一下意見我們先來看一下你如果要落實節能減碳就你要減碳的話第一個地面勤務很重要你知道我們現在的空測什麼叫空測知道嗎部長空測就是航廈以外的地方叫空測就是空間那地面上 |
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的運具啦運具就是你可能有載行李的啦載人的啦或者是拖飛機的啦你知道有多少台嗎4554台運具啦那目前啦電動車的數量有多少你知道我寫給你看啦333啦油電車有109也就是說目前的機場淘機裡面的空車運具 |
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地面的運具全部有4500多台只有不到10%是所謂的綠能車輛如果你桃機又自己定一個目標他說2030年他希望運具電動化能夠達到50%有可能嗎我再跟你來探討 |
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那你第一個先把這些運具你如果把它電動化、綠能化這很重要這幾千台在地面每天都排放碳因為他們都是幾乎都是柴油動力的嘛那目前淘機要開始改為如果你要求地勤的這些運具要用電動的話那電動車那你需要什麼你需要充電樁嗎 |
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過去民航局曾經協助推動民航局第一個設立充電樁第二個電費要補助我們來看一下如果桃機都自己定一個目標了現在的充電樁有多少台我給部長看一下現在有43座充電樁那是108年設立的那 |
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接下來的109年到113年到今年設立多少零啦過去5年來連一具充電樁都沒有增加啦那現在目標定到明年他說明年要增設6座只有6座喔那淘汰既有19座那你知道目前設立這些充電樁啦把一台車輛喔既有現在淘機在跑的那個車輛喔充飽電要多久你知道嗎 |
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要8小時到10小時所以它屬於慢充全部都是慢充啦淘氣公司現有的充電裝全部都是慢充充飽一台電動車輛運具啦要8到10個小時那你說 |
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現在在基調公司的三家地勤現在都有嘛 桃勤 桃勤在做航空啦第二個 新宇也有 長榮也有他們怎麼會願意做呢然後電費補助也取消那充電樁啊 很貴耶一基頭要一百萬啦 如果你效率高一點的話 |
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那你現在民進黨的補助有沒有啦那你也不去設充電樁啦電位補助有沒有而且啊電路還沒有你如果地勤業者你要自己設立電路那他們怎麼會有意願那怎麼達到所謂的 |
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明年綠色機場還要升級這個目標做得到嗎也就是說我的主題就是你桃機想要取得綠能機場的升級那麼你要把地勤業務把機場所有的在裡面營運的都要當作你的夥伴 |
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而不是把減碳的責任推給他們自己去享受減碳機場升級的美名所謂的你要把地勤業務納為夥伴像華航華航最近就跟淘寢的費用協商好了這要肯定一下華航他們20幾年來費用都沒有調整 |
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那這樣地勤公司他哪有資源哪有經費去提升他該有的服務和設備嘛那現在淘氣公司也是啊 |
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那部長回答一次楊董事長報告委員在建制的過程當中桃機公司的策略我這樣聽起來應該是比較主要是溝通這些地勤公司他們自己去建制在裡頭的在他們裡面的讓他們自己去建制那這個部分委員的意思應該是希望說我們政府應該要更甚至是桃機公司要有更大的補助或者是誘因讓他們願意去改成電動化 |
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你經費上你電費有沒有補助?是,是不是不請董事長也補助?充電裝你叫他自己設他還沒有電力捏電力系統也沒有捏 |
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跟委員報告這個是一個必須要做的事情那怎麼樣加快腳步現在正在進行 |
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那第二個就剛剛我們看到的這個現有的43座的充電窗都是桃集公司的充電窗是慢充的沒有錯我們現在第一個目標是現有的慢充要改成快充那第二個就是我們的三行下目前的建設計畫裡面也有帶26座的這個快充另外就是包括業者的部分業者的部分其實他自己本身的廠房他也有這些機區要停放的地方我們也希望那你們從來沒有坐下來談啊 |
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你都在那裡說話聽,你沒跟他們說過而且部長,一共43座慢充要改為快充,明年一年才改6座,你要分幾年啊?對不對?而且你只有6座,那你剩下的幾十座也沒有人要用啦,充一台車要充8小時到10小時你早上充到夕陽下山還在充欸 |
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那我再請教齁這個部分我們來加速啦電路有沒有問題啦這電的供應有沒有問題啦現況來講是沒有問題沒有問題啦那我請教齁你說淘機供電量沒有問題那我請教齁長榮地勤最近他要買10台電源機組他要給飛機用那這個電源機組就是他要有一種像這電子的電力機啊齁 |
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他要用買他要買電的啦淘氣公司說電不夠啦有沒有這件事情所以長榮最近要買他只好買再回去買柴油引擎的發電機啊是不是這樣我想這部分我還不完全清楚你不完全清楚我們回去以後會馬上查那以現況來講因為淘氣現在的第三航廈正在做長榮要買10台我再跟你講他買這個就是要有飛機用的啦是 |
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你現在往綠能機場走,他要買電池的發電機,就是用電池在發電的,又回頭去買柴油發電,因為投機工藝既定的電不夠,你剛才跟我說電能工藝沒有問題,那他為什麼買柴油的? |
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這個回去以後馬上查那在電的供應上面我們會來協調因為台電公司你不能只講你明年要升級你什麼時候要升級啊你連這個你連這個地勤公司他要他要他要用買電子的發電機你就沒辦法買啊你又叫他買柴油對不對連最基本的充電樁你也沒有然後你又改四十幾座你明年才要改六座 |
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如果照這個速度你要改8年欸那你怎麼可能所以不能這樣說話啦我希望董事長你要來重視這個事情好不好部長這個事情應該要督促一下當然沒有錯好謝謝部長謝謝董事長謝謝主席 |
| IVOD_ID |
157166 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157166 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-10 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T11:40:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T11:49:34+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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