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| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:56:29 - 11:09:19 |
| 影片長度 |
770 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-11-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部民用航空局局長、桃園國際機場股份有限公司董事長、中華航空股份有限公司董事長及桃園航勤股份有限公司董事長就「如何強化遭遇顯著危害天氣現象之飛航安全與人力配置暨如何落實地面勤務之安全規範」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查114年度中央政府總預算案關於交通部民用航空局單位預算。
三、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－民航事業作業基金分預算。
四、審查114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於交通部主管桃園國際機場股份有限公司營業預算。
【本日僅進行詢答】【11月18日、20日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請部長陳部長還有民航局長柯局長部長你知道那個高雄飛成田機場那個機票大概多少錢嗎 |
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高雄飛成田機場,這個機票我不知道,沒買過機場知不知道?沒有,最近的票價沒有平常差不多都一萬塊、一萬塊你知道現在多少錢,你知道嗎?最近可能因為那個大家想要去看比賽,所以可能價格都調升了三萬九千對,我在網路上也有看到一些桃園飛日本東西所以你可以看齁,這個我們南高屏的球迷真的是很辛苦齁 |
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單程那你看這個就是臺北、桃園飛日本成田或者是羽田他們從小飛機改大飛機多了不少位置那當然就價格又比較低去的人又比較多那有沒有機會 |
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趕快拜託局長拜託航空公司有沒有機會就是說我調大飛機那這樣子我的票價可以降低你看我從一萬到三萬九直飛那你看那個價格阿現在好像剩下幾個啦各位數的票數啦各位數的機位所以這個其實你看有這麼大的需求阿但是呢 |
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又貴又沒有辦法達到那麼多人去有沒有機會這個是不是拜託民航局長拜託一下這個由民航局去跟各航空公司來協調看看是不是請局長 |
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有關就是這一次這個棒球到東京的部分其實民航局已經協調過好幾輪那我想有關高雄的部分因為還有幾天嘛我們也再協調看看好不好就盡量你看我們盡量來跟航空公司協調就是同樣的班次同樣的時間就是把飛機加大那我去的人可以增多價格可以減少那不是很好的事嗎 |
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好 那第二個 那個 |
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部長你知道那個臺北的大邱都有那個多元支付嗎?這個我知道你知道吼?是那你知道高雄機場都沒有嗎?委員在說的是這個排班的部分那現在應該已經有一些計程車它已經有這個刷卡機了 |
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昨天我已經有跟前天還跟部長講過第一個排班計程車有沒有機會讓他不要說很久還要多多的一百多元要有一個基本的讓他划算的價格讓他划算的價格他才願意來排班嘛因為來排班也才能夠解決出入境旅客叫沒車的問題嘛所以那一天有跟部長講過這兩個問題那現在第三個就是如果能夠再有多元支付其實真的是方便搭乘 |
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這個已經有引進多元支付了有引進了沒問題了嗎跟委員報告有關高雄排班計程車其實他現在已經有部分車輛有這個多元支付那我們現在已經請他們還是持續鼓勵他們希望都能夠去裝這個多元支付是啊因為我現在我去還要挑說欸那個有多元支付的優先來排班排在後面那這樣子其實他們又會吵架啦 |
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所以這個部分是不是請局長也協助解決一下我們再來協助第三個就是我們的那個高雄機場的興建事實上這個問題其實蠻大的現在半半施工半半施工就是說地勤能量夠不夠然後呢 |
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外籍其實我去拜訪了大概有十幾家航空公司了那有一些也想來但是他說那我們沒有辦法過夜因為那個停機坪空間可能不夠然後第三個呢這國際業者其實我們去拜訪的時候也有表示說如果可以有空間他們願意來高雄設基地那現在如果辦辦施工要16年 |
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那16年這三個問題有沒有機會解決?如果沒有機會解決,高雄機場可能就會萎縮。報告委員,這個過程確實是半半失功,因為我們邊改要邊飛航,那這三個問題是不是現在可以幫忙解決?先預把這個問題找出來,因為你現在沒有想到這個問題,你半半失功16年這個問題都沒有想到的話,高雄小港機場的飛機一定會萎縮。 |
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是報告委員他地勤的部分目前是台勤嘛只有台勤在住應該是目前只有一家台勤跟長勤 |
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場景是他們只能做自己的嘛只做自己的台警是通通可以嘛其他都可以支援嘛其他公司都可以那我說的這三個理由這三個問題就是局長可能比較熟啦有沒有機會解決我想地勤的代理能量因為他是業務操作嘛所以如果有業者來當然他能量需要擴充他會業者會去擴充 |
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那可是這個過夜機坪的部分確實誠如剛剛委員所說的因為我們這個滑行道要北移嘛那所以說有一些工地確實是會吃到這個機坪的位置不過我們透過那個時間帶協調的機制就是把相關的機坪所謂時間帶就是我們盡量把這個監理風航班的監理風把它拉平所以我順便提到底下就是我們其實該設一個目標不過16年齁人民一想到16年頭殼都崩起來 |
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那我這16年裡面比如說我停車場工程的完成電動步道的完成滑行道北移停機坪空間的增加等等我是不是可以把這16年 |
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在切割成幾個兩年兩年兩年或四年四年兩年四年等等的就是說我讓人民知道說我這個機場雖然在改製雖然在半班施工但是我這些問題其實我逐步在解決這個部分其實我覺得優先要想到的就是停機坪的問題啦 |
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如果這個沒有辦法過夜如果沒有辦法設基地那我高雄的飛機顯然在這16年之內很明顯一定會decay我在這邊可以大膽的做這樣子的預測但是今天身為部長跟身為局長一定是不忍心看到我高雄機場在沒落嘛 |
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那這三個問題就是應該要在辦辦施工的過程當中還要再想到這個問題然後如何在我這個 要對三個方面你知道為什麼嗎我今天辦辦施工我還有怎麼樣的機會來撬出一些空間對不對我來處理這個問題不然的話一定是高雄市場未來一定會跌下 |
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我跟委員報告其實確實像委員講我們其實這個停車場工程跟這個A滑行道北移其實它是航廈主體工程的前置工程等於是說它也是分階段技術上讓局長去克服那我的意思是需求上的問題有沒有辦法克服 |
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我們盡量把這個半半施工因為航廈還是營運我們盡量來做我瞭解委員剛剛講的其實也是我們在思考的就是說如何讓所有的工程在進行中降低對營運的影響甚至它發展的影響好 局長你知道我意思嗎這個部分如果你沒有現在就開始想我就告訴你16年後我就是國用我就越來越三條線就跑出來了所以你現在就要開始去著手思考我今天提的這些問題 |
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你如何去解決然後提早因應這些問題的產生我講外資航空要過夜是沒那麼簡單啦國際業者要有航空機器也沒那麼簡單啦你真的沒想我這16年16年喔16年喔就是第一我就在那邊死在那邊嘛我沒有成長的空間沒有替代的空間沒有怎麼樣去彌補這個問題產生我有任何解決的方案是 |
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這樣我一十兩年就後裔了是不是其實不會就那麼那個當然啦我們不會讓他下滑我們會預作準備會維持他目前的營運我就是先把這個問題點出來我想局長比我還內行局長也知道這個問題啦那部長可能還不是那麼清楚那為什麼要在這裡問為什麼要在這裡讓部長也知道 |
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那當然要給局長一點壓力啦這個問題你不解決就是問題一定要想個辦法因為幫忙事關所以我都沒辦法兩手一攤那我就覺得 |
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不行做工程一定要除了就是長遠要思考我們希望能夠邊改邊發展對然後發展不要把解放也想出來是比如說你看那個人家其他的機場你看這哈羅奇奇的這有嗎這新加坡的啦 |
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加上這個卡打你看人家機場都會想說我16年後或者是我在這幾年我怎麼樣去增加這些東西你包括泰國你看他們現在可以少連免登機站就是主要機場清邁4年完成目標24 |
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小石新加坡現在可以第一個免護照通關系統阿高雄機場、台北機場、松山機場、甘霧阿我高雄機場現在在改造、改建我這些東西、先進的東西我要先收進來是 |
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所以你看包括所有的其他額外的service那當然就是說我曾經要求過美食街交通局旅館我也知道民航局有在思考但是呢現在我可能希望你們思考更多啦是可以做的因為說實在這12年後一個新的基金完成這半年慢慢思考我如果沒有想到這個問題想去放到時候出來的東西我沒有 |
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你所提醒的這個美食街的部分有在盤點空間目前正在盤點它裡面的機場的空間如果盤點出來之後那就看有沒有常常願意進駐我今天拿這兩個基點的圖案報竟有跟交通部看就是說你是在跟世界比較包括你看這個少年免簽證這現在不是很困難 |
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是不是AI辨識系統就已經很好的了,其他國家就沒辦法,泰國也沒辦法做,我們台灣AI算是比人更強的地方,更可能沒辦法做所以就是說,今天航線的問題我沒時間講了,我先講到這裡啦,就是說我希望說,我們真的做事情都要想前行啦 |
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我想部長年輕有為我沒有參與政策你還在政策界所以你會看比我更久啊我們在看進行就是說我12年後12年後我也70倍了70倍了對不對但是我們要去看我們現在開始看12年後的問題我們現在開始一項一項要去最起碼做到12年後12年後完成以後我們變國際性人偶遇的一個基礎我們要有這個報復嘛 |
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這樣我們做這個改建不靠它的意義好不好拜託部長跟局長在座思考把我們未來的高雄機場做成一個國際型的人人稱讚甚至人人羨慕的機場這樣我們就很爽快了好不好拜託你們謝謝 |
| IVOD_ID |
157162 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/157162 |
| 日期 |
2024-11-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-23-10 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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23 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期交通委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2024-11-20T10:56:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-11-20T11:09:19+08:00 |
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